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Thu Dec-11-03 11:23 AM
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you intentionally spun this to tie dean to star wars. Then when his camp ties his policies to clintons you seem to ignore that (even your statement above ignores it).
Here is the irony - from the article - where Edwards stands from the survey:
Edwards supported developing missile defense "to ensure that America will be protected in the event diplomacy and prevention fail." He did not explicitly reject the Bush plan. On space arms control, he wrote: "America should be a leader in keeping weapons out of space."
Lets see. Supports missle defense... (what you slammed dean on and tried to tie him to Star Wars... and shouldn't you be glad that another DUer picked up the message and started a poll on it - to create the impression that it was a reality... go and correct it on that thread... your role in that misleading item... and I will back off.) Again - land-based missle defense ala Clinton... same as Dean.
Does not explicitly rejects the Bush Plan (where Dean seemed to be a bit stronger - but I am not sure he was definitive - so to be generous we can call that similar.)
So the question - the legitimate one... is on future use of space... focus on that without the rest of the innuendo... very legit. But the way it has been pursued here... intentionally misleading.
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| -Dean Supports "Star Wars" Missile Def & Space Weapons?? (you be the judge) |
AP |
Dec-11-03 09:47 AM |
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That's one reason why |
GreenPartyVoter |
Dec-11-03 09:49 AM |
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So, where's the contradiction? |
wtmusic |
Dec-11-03 09:49 AM |
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Most Democrats I know look at Star Wars as unworkable pork which exists |
AP |
Dec-11-03 09:51 AM |
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Yes, but what's that got to do with the preemptive policy? |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 09:55 AM |
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It just sounds like he likes to spend money on things that make Wall St... |
AP |
Dec-11-03 09:57 AM |
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According to the LA Times editorial spin... |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 09:59 AM |
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I'd love to know what the truth is. That's why I put the "??" in my... |
AP |
Dec-11-03 10:01 AM |
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OK. |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 10:07 AM |
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You left out the part where he opposes unworkable pork |
party_line |
Dec-11-03 09:56 AM |
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So......... |
retyred |
Dec-11-03 10:56 AM |
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It's an oversimplification to lump Star Wars |
wtmusic |
Dec-11-03 09:58 AM |
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So you advocate |
_NorCal_D_ |
Dec-11-03 10:12 AM |
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Huh? |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 09:50 AM |
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You think Star Wars is cool? You think it works? You think it isn't... |
AP |
Dec-11-03 09:54 AM |
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That's not what my post said. |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 09:56 AM |
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What is Clark's position? |
mrgorth |
Dec-11-03 09:53 AM |
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Let a real man tell you what's wrong. |
PleaseKillMe |
Dec-11-03 10:03 AM |
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A "real man"? |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 10:09 AM |
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You couldn't shovel It with |
zidzi |
Dec-11-03 10:25 AM |
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Clark and Kerry are aligned on that. |
blm |
Dec-11-03 10:20 AM |
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Link? |
bicentennial_baby |
Dec-11-03 10:22 AM |
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How many times do they need to say it? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Dec-11-03 09:54 AM |
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So Dean supports corporate welfare. |
Skwmom |
Dec-11-03 09:56 AM |
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You are reading editorial spin on Dean's stands. |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 09:58 AM |
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Who would put any faith in Dean's policy statements. |
Skwmom |
Dec-11-03 10:02 AM |
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Really? |
Amerikav60 |
Dec-11-03 10:05 AM |
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Well, that's the spin that you've chosen to buy. |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 10:06 AM |
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I've read the whole lot |
PHDiva |
Dec-11-03 10:17 AM |
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Poop |
RetroLounge |
Dec-11-03 11:55 AM |
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Wha...??? That's crazy. The science is AGAINST Star Wars. |
blm |
Dec-11-03 09:56 AM |
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You don't think Dean would let a little think like science get in is way. |
Skwmom |
Dec-11-03 10:00 AM |
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Well, his supporters would like to see what he actually said first. |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 10:00 AM |
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This is a fair comment. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 10:03 AM |
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From the LA Times Article: |
AP |
Dec-11-03 10:08 AM |
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Thank you. |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 10:10 AM |
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Clinton tried to hold this program to strict standards |
AP |
Dec-11-03 10:17 AM |
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I would have to see a direct quote from Dean specifically regarding this |
LuminousX |
Dec-11-03 09:59 AM |
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Interestingly enough... Dean doesn't support it... |
LuminousX |
Dec-11-03 10:09 AM |
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Yeah, it's clear from the quotes AP offered above... |
HuckleB |
Dec-11-03 10:12 AM |
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It's the "weapons is space" position that separates Dean from rest. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 10:20 AM |
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Kerry is prescient |
LuminousX |
Dec-11-03 10:22 AM |
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When the project is announced it'll be too late to do anything |
remfan |
Dec-11-03 11:51 AM |
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Thanks LuminousX....I don't know what I'd |
zidzi |
Dec-11-03 10:23 AM |
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Unbelievable |
_NorCal_D_ |
Dec-11-03 10:11 AM |
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The article linked (LA Times) |
salin |
Dec-11-03 10:16 AM |
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Star Wars is a Terrible Idea, but I'm voting Howard Dean |
Don Claybrook |
Dec-11-03 10:23 AM |
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Political Wire is Lying |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:24 AM |
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Thanks...it's a 24/7 job around here |
zidzi |
Dec-11-03 10:28 AM |
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Dean opposes "Star Wars" |
Duder |
Dec-11-03 10:28 AM |
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There is an issue raised in the LA TImes... but it is not Star Wars |
salin |
Dec-11-03 10:34 AM |
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Kerry is for a ban? That's the wrong position to take. |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:40 AM |
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You're ignoring the second question discussed in the article: |
AP |
Dec-11-03 11:11 AM |
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It is? Or leaving the door open for unknown technology? |
salin |
Dec-11-03 12:04 PM |
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Dean's "policy" on ICC |
PHDiva |
Dec-11-03 10:55 AM |
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AP this is the most disturbing thing I have seen in awhile |
salin |
Dec-11-03 10:45 AM |
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I trusted Political Wire's headline. I think I amended the subject line |
AP |
Dec-11-03 11:06 AM |
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AP - |
salin |
Dec-11-03 11:23 AM |
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How is it "spin" to cust and paste headline & cut and paste the article.. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 12:38 PM |
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OK but go back to Frontline and read up on Clinton's land based |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-11-03 11:07 AM |
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Again - legitimate questions |
salin |
Dec-11-03 12:06 PM |
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For emphasis: I cut and paste Political Wire's headline. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 11:08 AM |
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ah - credibility has to be charged? How about looking at the article |
salin |
Dec-11-03 12:09 PM |
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I read the Political Wire story first, and posted that. What's wrong |
AP |
Dec-11-03 12:37 PM |
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because the item wasn't a "story" it LINKED to a story |
salin |
Dec-11-03 12:42 PM |
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It was a story about another story. I posted the first story, |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:00 PM |
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Poop |
Walt Starr |
Dec-11-03 10:57 AM |
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As usual... no quotes from Dean on his position... |
TLM |
Dec-11-03 10:58 AM |
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Shame on you for spreading falsehoods |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:58 AM |
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seemed like an important issue to discuss when I saw the Political Wire |
AP |
Dec-11-03 11:09 AM |
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You should have taken the two minutes it took to actually read the article |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:17 AM |
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I cut and paste the whole article, I put the question marks in. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 12:17 PM |
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AP has an Agenda against Dean- here's the proof. NOT a Personal Attack |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 11:56 AM |
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What do you think that means? |
AP |
Dec-11-03 12:40 PM |
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Here's what your saying, 'I admit I'm biased, but believe me anyway...' |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 01:06 PM |
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It means I'm willing to hold the microscope to Dean's words while most |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:08 PM |
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Look, they're YOUR words- quit trying to fool people. |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 01:11 PM |
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Poop and more poop |
RetroLounge |
Dec-11-03 11:58 AM |
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