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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #67
81. How about instead...
of trying to be snide or cute or whatever you maybe actually adress Will's point. Your guy said if Iraq had the means to give nuclear material to terrorists to bring into the US that would be grounds to attack Iraq. Will pointed out that Kerry was given information that this was the case - yes the Niger uranium story turned out to be bogus but we didn't know that at the time now did we. Seems to me that might well have met your candidates threshhold for acting unilaterally. But I suppose it's easier to snipe than to adress inconvenient facts.
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  -In Response to Lies about Dean's Record on IWR slinkerwink  Dec-10-03 09:53 PM   #0 
  - Thanks for your hard work!  zidzi   Dec-10-03 09:55 PM   #1 
  - no problem! I just can't quit GD on this note.....  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:01 PM   #10 
  - Excellent - thank you  LuminousX   Dec-10-03 10:11 PM   #28 
  - no problem!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:21 PM   #46 
  - Brilliant strategy...Attempt to paint Dean as pro-war..desperate measures  polpilot   Dec-11-03 08:55 AM   #205 
  - Any Record of Dean Anti-War Positions or Protests Before Campaign  WiseMen   Dec-11-03 03:31 AM   #196 
  - Thank you  Don Claybrook   Dec-10-03 09:57 PM   #2 
  - thanks! welcome to the Dean campaign!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 09:59 PM   #4 
  - Slinker, you deserve a medal when Dean's elected  wtmusic   Dec-10-03 09:58 PM   #3 
  - actually, I found that post in Will's thread and reposted it  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 09:59 PM   #6 
  - Slinkerwink's medal  Pastiche423   Dec-10-03 10:49 PM   #75 
     - awww, thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:57 PM   #85 
  - Dean consistant on IRAQ.... keep it kicked folks!  mzmolly   Dec-10-03 09:59 PM   #5 
  - no problem!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:00 PM   #7 
  - Slinkerwink....  frustrated_lefty   Dec-10-03 10:00 PM   #8 
  - well, they HAVE to be placed entirely in context!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:01 PM   #9 
     - Yep, always out of context.  Code_Name_D   Dec-10-03 10:04 PM   #14 
     - I hope that a certain someone knows he's wrong now  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:06 PM   #21 
        - Will isn't wrong. You are taking ONE appearance as final word.  blm   Dec-11-03 09:02 AM   #206 
     - But quotes are so much more fun OUT of context!  LittleDannySlowhorse   Dec-10-03 10:04 PM   #15 
        - *snickers*  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:05 PM   #18 
        - Yea, it's no fun to actually read information in context...  mzmolly   Dec-10-03 10:18 PM   #40 
        - That stuff sucks!  LittleDannySlowhorse   Dec-10-03 10:20 PM   #42 
           - hey, let's take other candidates' stuff out of context just for fun  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:22 PM   #49 
        - or rather, Bush is the bully on the block  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:37 PM   #64 
  - And, the award for "Deaniac of the Week" goes to....  dajabr   Dec-10-03 10:02 PM   #11 
  - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:03 PM   #12 
     - You've earned it this week anyway!  dajabr   Dec-10-03 10:06 PM   #20 
        - definitely kudos to her for providing the complete text  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:06 PM   #22 
  - Wow, thanks for proving that Dean was in line with Kerry on this.  cindyw   Dec-10-03 10:03 PM   #13 
  - no problem!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:04 PM   #16 
  - HA!...  janx   Dec-10-03 11:37 PM   #154 
  - What if I think...  party_line   Dec-10-03 10:10 PM   #26 
  - Too bad Kerry didn't stay "in line"...  mzmolly   Dec-10-03 10:15 PM   #34 
  - No kidding  sandnsea   Dec-10-03 10:35 PM   #62 
     - and the reason the amendment dropped through was that no one  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:49 PM   #76 
        - Gephardt rammed through the other one  sandnsea   Dec-10-03 11:00 PM   #95 
           - you're cherry-picking once again.  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:05 PM   #104 
              - A vote is cherry-picking  sandnsea   Dec-10-03 11:56 PM   #169 
                 - NO. That's not true. Otherwise, I could bank on my  janx   Dec-11-03 12:15 AM   #173 
                    - Consistency is the most important thing  sandnsea   Dec-11-03 12:17 AM   #174 
                       - so you basically ignored my post  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 12:56 AM   #181 
                       - How is Dean not consistent?  janx   Dec-11-03 01:11 AM   #184 
                          - from the start  sandnsea   Dec-11-03 01:20 AM   #186 
                             - *rolls eyes*  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 11:01 AM   #212 
  - Dean has been consistent with his statements on Iraq  rucky   Dec-10-03 10:05 PM   #17 
  - that it is.......  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:05 PM   #19 
     - Only this.  Cleita   Dec-10-03 10:09 PM   #25 
        - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:12 PM   #30 
  - Any ONE of Dean's statements is NOT the problem is it?  blm   Dec-10-03 10:08 PM   #23 
  - it's called using it in the right context by providing the entire quote  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:11 PM   #27 
  - Wrong. B-L said Bush determined whether use of force was needed.  blm   Dec-10-03 10:20 PM   #44 
     - ::rolls eyes::  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:24 PM   #51 
     - Here...see for yourself, dear.  blm   Dec-10-03 11:09 PM   #109 
        - that was a lie Kerry made about Biden-Lugar  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:17 PM   #125 
        - Oh, now John Kerry is lying about Biden-Lugar? Please prove that. claim.  blm   Dec-10-03 11:33 PM   #147 
           - because he said it was a certification, but Biden-Lugar  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:39 PM   #156 
              - That was pretty much the dog and pony show  blm   Dec-11-03 07:36 AM   #202 
        - OR  sandnsea   Dec-11-03 02:53 AM   #195 
     - POOP.  Scott Lee   Dec-10-03 10:57 PM   #86 
        - lol!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:00 PM   #93 
  - the others didn't make 'the case' as well as dean cept  bpilgrim   Dec-10-03 10:16 PM   #35 
  - Dean still called for a multilateral consensus  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:20 PM   #43 
  - No one is perfect blm.  BeFree   Dec-10-03 10:22 PM   #47 
  - How can you say you know Dean's stance if you don't even know he supported  blm   Dec-10-03 10:26 PM   #53 
     - I said show me the proof.  BeFree   Dec-10-03 10:39 PM   #66 
     - Dean did support Biden-Lugar but that amendment was dropped  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:41 PM   #68 
     - Here it is, and has been posted a hundred times here.  blm   Dec-10-03 10:43 PM   #70 
        - you know, your posting that makes Dean look good  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:44 PM   #71 
        - Thanks blm  BeFree   Dec-10-03 10:53 PM   #79 
           - The point of contention is not the bill itself  blm   Dec-10-03 11:00 PM   #94 
              - Proof, blm, proof  BeFree   Dec-10-03 11:08 PM   #108 
                 - go to the link in the post  blm   Dec-10-03 11:10 PM   #112 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-03 11:11 PM   #115 
                    - Knock it off, AWD. The text was at the link posted.  blm   Dec-10-03 11:29 PM   #142 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-03 11:38 PM   #155 
                       - I posted the article with a link. Why pretend I didn't?  blm   Dec-10-03 11:42 PM   #158 
                    - Yeah, AWD, I noticed that  BeFree   Dec-10-03 11:32 PM   #145 
                       - That's rude. The link to B-L text is in the article posted.  blm   Dec-10-03 11:35 PM   #151 
     - Biden-Lugar was not the same. You know it, I know it, and the ACLU  ibegurpard   Dec-10-03 11:01 PM   #96 
        - I never said that. The PROVISION allowing Bush final determination WAS  blm   Dec-10-03 11:14 PM   #120 
           - and both bills were written on paper and in English  RetroLounge   Dec-10-03 11:25 PM   #136 
              - heh  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:33 PM   #148 
  - um . no .. right from the beginning  drfemoe   Dec-11-03 04:21 AM   #199 
  - And a great Guardian article for Slinkerwink...by Sid Blumenthal  madfloridian   Dec-10-03 10:08 PM   #24 
  - it'll be okay...  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:11 PM   #29 
  - From Newsday:  Duder   Dec-10-03 10:14 PM   #33 
  - Mine as well, but the brawl will lessen, we hope.  janx   Dec-11-03 12:22 AM   #178 
  - :kick: where are the Dean bashers?  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:14 PM   #31 
  - crikets  bpilgrim   Dec-10-03 10:17 PM   #37 
  - what's the meaning of that pic?  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:18 PM   #38 
     - that it's quite  bpilgrim   Dec-10-03 10:42 PM   #69 
        - ha, you got that right----no crickets here  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:44 PM   #72 
  - Good post so far, don't go picking a fight.  frustrated_lefty   Dec-10-03 10:18 PM   #39 
  - I'm sticking to my post  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:30 PM   #59 
  - I was wondering the same thing  goobergunch   Dec-10-03 10:19 PM   #41 
     - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:21 PM   #45 
  - As long as we're talking about old Dean quotes today...  dajabr   Dec-10-03 10:14 PM   #32 
  - I signed the petition for that-----it was awesome!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:16 PM   #36 
  - Like I said before.  robsul82   Dec-10-03 10:22 PM   #48 
  - yep, I was in Congress for two months, surrounded by politicans  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:23 PM   #50 
  - Cleland sums it up best  quinnox   Dec-10-03 10:26 PM   #52 
  - Cleland is a Kerry supporter, so that doesn't tell me anything about  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:29 PM   #58 
  - As we've learned today, quinnox...  robsul82   Dec-10-03 10:35 PM   #61 
     - heh, so true....  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:36 PM   #63 
  - What Lies?  KFC   Dec-10-03 10:27 PM   #54 
  - Kerry still voted YES  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:28 PM   #56 
     - Dean had no vote  KFC   Dec-10-03 10:59 PM   #90 
        - you say Dean has no foreign policy exp. but Dean saw through the ruse  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:07 PM   #105 
        - He was consistently against the war after the fact  KFC   Dec-10-03 11:20 PM   #130 
           - and THEN he said the president had no real evidence to present  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:24 PM   #135 
              - Listen up, now  KFC   Dec-10-03 11:42 PM   #159 
                 - oh please.....he said that "but bush doesn't have all the evidence"  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 12:26 AM   #179 
                    - I give up  KFC   Dec-11-03 01:27 AM   #189 
                       - heh, thanks  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 02:11 AM   #191 
        - So Carol's an armchair quarterback too? Sharpton?  robsul82   Dec-10-03 11:09 PM   #111 
  - Damn, girl - you're a badass!  Paragon   Dec-10-03 10:27 PM   #55 
  - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:28 PM   #57 
  - :kick:  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:32 PM   #60 
  - Um...  WilliamPitt   Dec-10-03 10:38 PM   #65 
  - and after the vote was called, Dean was still against the IWR  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:39 PM   #67 
  - How about instead...  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 10:54 PM   #81 
     - Yes, we did know the Niger uranium story was fake.  robsul82   Dec-10-03 10:57 PM   #84 
     - People in the administration may have known...  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:03 PM   #102 
        - There were several stories in the news questioning  frustrated_lefty   Dec-10-03 11:14 PM   #121 
           - That's ok...  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:22 PM   #132 
              - Thanks for explaining, and I agree  frustrated_lefty   Dec-10-03 11:33 PM   #146 
                 - No matter how het up I get...  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:40 PM   #157 
                    - To try and answer  frustrated_lefty   Dec-11-03 01:12 AM   #185 
     - that uranium story was widely reported, and debunked  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:59 PM   #91 
     - Read Will's post again...  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:09 PM   #110 
        - I knew that the war on iraq was a lie because of fake 9/11 connection  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:21 PM   #131 
           - Yes I remember Hans Blix and the rest of it  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:27 PM   #140 
              - I'm a centrist and a liberal  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:30 PM   #143 
                 - You sound just like...  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:37 PM   #153 
                    - I don't agree with him on the guns issue and the gay marriage issue  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:42 PM   #160 
                       - What we have to do no matter who wins...  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:49 PM   #164 
                          - good night!  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 03:48 AM   #197 
     - You don't pay your money before you test drive the car.  Scott Lee   Dec-10-03 11:02 PM   #99 
     - and Kerry's being roasted for it along with Geppy and others  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:08 PM   #107 
     - Do we know what "proof" they were given?  VelmaD   Dec-10-03 11:11 PM   #117 
        - Well, the chair and next ranking Dem on the Senate Intel Cmte voted NO  hedda_foil   Dec-11-03 12:55 AM   #180 
     - Correct me if I'm wrong, but uranium from Niger was not the ONLY thing...  AP   Dec-10-03 11:07 PM   #106 
     - Heheh...  robsul82   Dec-10-03 11:11 PM   #114 
     - no need for that attack  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:15 PM   #122 
        - That ISN'T an attack!  robsul82   Dec-10-03 11:16 PM   #124 
           - It reminds me a little of Dazed and Confused -- the whole 70s thing.  AP   Dec-10-03 11:45 PM   #163 
              - I so would've been chilling with Edwards and Dean.  robsul82   Dec-10-03 11:50 PM   #167 
                 - However, Edwards was able to keep his grades up.  AP   Dec-11-03 12:20 AM   #176 
                    - Heheh, no.  robsul82   Dec-11-03 12:22 AM   #177 
                       - Maybe Dean was the stoner, and Edwards wasn't?  AP   Dec-11-03 08:20 AM   #204 
     - wow......that's a really FAR reach to say that Bush thought Dean was the  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:11 PM   #116 
        - It's not far fetched to have alternative plans.  AP   Dec-10-03 11:49 PM   #165 
     - Your not  Jim4Wes   Dec-10-03 11:50 PM   #166 
  - Your using a 'fake' scenario Dean was questioned about to  mzmolly   Dec-10-03 10:46 PM   #73 
  - yes, it is.......  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:47 PM   #74 
  - and it will get worse before it gets better  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 10:47 AM   #210 
  - What the hell happened to you, Will?  Paragon   Dec-10-03 10:55 PM   #83 
  - Spent time in a locked room with Kerry.  robsul82   Dec-10-03 10:58 PM   #88 
     - ha, nahhhhhh.......  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:03 PM   #100 
  - POOP.  Scott Lee   Dec-10-03 10:59 PM   #89 
  - Um...  Duder   Dec-10-03 11:00 PM   #92 
  - good point.  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:01 PM   #97 
  - Sleep it off, Will  killbotfactory   Dec-10-03 11:03 PM   #101 
     - right.  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:04 PM   #103 
     - War rag vote was on October 10, 2002  Pastiche423   Dec-10-03 11:12 PM   #118 
  - Thanks for posting this.  SadEagle   Dec-10-03 10:52 PM   #77 
  - no problem!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:54 PM   #80 
  - still, it's interesting my post haven't gotten mention from most of the  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:53 PM   #78 
  - that's because  ZombyWoof   Dec-10-03 10:55 PM   #82 
  - heh, ok.........................  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 10:58 PM   #87 
  - ZW, you are indeed a very witty man  mitchum   Dec-10-03 11:01 PM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-03 11:23 PM   #134 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-03 11:26 PM   #137 
     - Uh, nor I.  robsul82   Dec-10-03 11:26 PM   #138 
     - heh, thanks for hearing me out  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:32 PM   #144 
     - They are Dean's own statements posted.  blm   Dec-10-03 11:44 PM   #162 
  - You seem devastated that you didn't get a flame war.  QC   Dec-11-03 12:59 AM   #182 
  - What about this, then?  incapsulated   Dec-10-03 11:10 PM   #113 
  - are you forgetting that US didn't even give Saddam 30 days to disarm  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:14 PM   #119 
  - Are you saying that you would have supported an invasion...  incapsulated   Dec-10-03 11:16 PM   #123 
     - the fact remains is that there was no multilateral coalition and Dean took  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:19 PM   #127 
        - The fact also remains..  incapsulated   Dec-10-03 11:27 PM   #139 
           - seems like you didn't read my post  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:28 PM   #141 
              - No, it seems...  incapsulated   Dec-10-03 11:34 PM   #150 
                 - Dean was against the war, and against the war after the war......  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:44 PM   #161 
                    - How can I argue with such logic?  incapsulated   Dec-11-03 12:00 AM   #170 
                    - if you say "Rove isn't a genius" over and over again, you cease to be  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 02:19 AM   #193 
                       - What is your point?  incapsulated   Dec-11-03 10:35 PM   #220 
                    - But he supported allowing Bush to make the final decision for unilateral  blm   Dec-11-03 07:42 AM   #203 
  - IF the UN didn't enforce it's own resolutions  killbotfactory   Dec-10-03 11:19 PM   #128 
     - again, so true!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:22 PM   #133 
     - oh right  GreenArrow   Dec-11-03 10:57 AM   #211 
  - Slinkster, you are a very strong and bright young woman.  janx   Dec-10-03 11:17 PM   #126 
  - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:19 PM   #129 
  - Kick  RetroLounge   Dec-10-03 11:33 PM   #149 
  - awww, thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-10-03 11:37 PM   #152 
  - Sorry, but this is equivalent to what Clark said  tameszu   Dec-10-03 11:50 PM   #168 
  - Exactly  incapsulated   Dec-11-03 12:05 AM   #172 
  - Another thought.  SadEagle   Dec-11-03 12:03 AM   #171 
  - good post.  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 12:18 AM   #175 
  - Nice.  David Zephyr   Dec-11-03 01:03 AM   #183 
  - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 01:20 AM   #187 
  - :kick:  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 01:25 AM   #188 
  - Thanks Slinkerwink  Amerikav60   Dec-11-03 01:33 AM   #190 
  - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 02:12 AM   #192 
  - :kick:  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 02:50 AM   #194 
  - yes, thank you very much  drfemoe   Dec-11-03 03:53 AM   #198 
  - thanks.....  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 04:30 AM   #200 
  - Excellent research work, Slinkerwink!  JaneQPublic   Dec-11-03 07:28 AM   #201 
  - no problem!  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 10:12 AM   #207 
  - kick  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 10:39 AM   #208 
  - kick  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 10:40 AM   #209 
  - If anything...  LeahMira   Dec-11-03 11:12 AM   #213 
  - that's true, and that's why Dean had us donate to Boswell, to help his  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 01:37 PM   #214 
  - Attaboy, slinker!  littlejoe   Dec-11-03 01:48 PM   #215 
  - thanks!  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 01:51 PM   #217 
  - Attaboy, slinker!  littlejoe   Dec-11-03 01:49 PM   #216 
  - you must be really pleased because you posted twice, ha  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 02:06 PM   #218 
  - KICK  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 08:00 PM   #219 
     - You're kicking, but not responding to the substantive point I made  tameszu   Dec-11-03 11:05 PM   #221 
        - look, eric  slinkerwink   Dec-11-03 11:08 PM   #222 
        - I accept your confession of guilt, even if preceded by an ad hom, Noelle  tameszu   Dec-11-03 11:36 PM   #224 
        - You will wait forever, tameszu  incapsulated   Dec-11-03 11:19 PM   #223 
           - Begads, just get a room you two. :p  frustrated_lefty   Dec-11-03 11:41 PM   #225 
           - Actually I disagree, because I think slink is quite thoughtful  tameszu   Dec-11-03 11:46 PM   #226 
 

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