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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 06:09 PM
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32. But this is the thing
I've been doing petition work, and in the process have been talking to a lot of Democrats in the last two weeks. These are the kinds of people who aren't obsessed with politics but who are disgusted with the state of the country.

We are at a crucial time when many people are deciding where their vote goes. Most of them are fixated on the General Election rather than the primary. They don't care about internal Democratic politics. They don't care about the Internet, beyond spamming jokes and checking news sites. They just want to get Bush the heck out of the White House.

Eighty-five percent of these folks out of the clear blue have mentioned that they don't believe that Dean will win. This is truly coming from the grassroots. If Clark really mobilizes over the next few weeks he can win this thing. Right now Dean is ahead but he doesn't have any margin for error and his momentum could come skidding to a halt at any time.

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  - Dean followed by Clark (et al) in new national poll pruner  Dec-06-03 05:20 PM   #0 
  - When the others drop out. . .  wndycty   Dec-06-03 05:22 PM   #1 
  - yep...  blm   Dec-06-03 05:25 PM   #6 
  - I think most will go to Dean  KaraokeKarlton   Dec-06-03 05:26 PM   #9 
  - Gephardt and Kerry supporters could lean to Clark. . .  wndycty   Dec-06-03 05:28 PM   #10 
  - No doubt about it. They've kept a respect for each other  blm   Dec-06-03 05:31 PM   #14 
  - I think Kerry supporters would lean to Clark and Gep supports to Dean ..  annxburns   Dec-06-03 05:40 PM   #21 
  - Re: I'd basically want anyone who could beat Bush like a drum  Anti Bush   Dec-06-03 06:15 PM   #36 
     - I disagree... look at Clark's record. He'll be EASY to take out  TLM   Dec-06-03 06:41 PM   #48 
        - Clark Eliminates Rove's Favorite Weapons  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 08:45 PM   #92 
        - he got that fourth star and then  arewethereyet   Dec-06-03 10:23 PM   #96 
           - Colon Bowel has to keep a low profile or face questions about returning.  oasis   Dec-06-03 10:39 PM   #97 
        - You make a pretty good case for Dean  Bucky   Dec-06-03 11:36 PM   #99 
  - What deception has Dean used BLM?  TLM   Dec-06-03 06:11 PM   #33 
  - Edwards and Lieberman supporters too.  gulliver   Dec-06-03 05:32 PM   #16 
  - You assume that all Kerry and Gephardt supporters are like the ones on DU  TLM   Dec-06-03 05:56 PM   #27 
     - Agreed  Amerikav60   Dec-06-03 05:58 PM   #28 
     - This Kerry Supporter  RobinA   Dec-06-03 06:41 PM   #49 
        - Give me one good solid reason Dean can't win?  TLM   Dec-06-03 06:46 PM   #52 
           - Now You're Resorting to Hyperbole--Doesn't Win Elections  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 08:21 PM   #90 
              - I could hit you with the same question.  Code_Name_D   Dec-06-03 09:16 PM   #94 
     - Kerry, Edwards Supporters I Talk To  Justice   Dec-06-03 06:00 PM   #30 
        - That means nothing at all...  TLM   Dec-06-03 06:22 PM   #40 
           - It Means Alot  Justice   Dec-06-03 06:55 PM   #58 
              - Did you even read what I wrote...  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:16 PM   #68 
  - No, They Gravitate Towards Name Recognition & Then Who'll Win  cryingshame   Dec-06-03 05:29 PM   #11 
  - Maybe because...  TLM   Dec-06-03 06:51 PM   #57 
  - But this is the thing  jumptheshadow   Dec-06-03 06:09 PM   #32 
  - Dean too risky; Clark's MO to continue  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 05:44 PM   #23 
     - nope, it isn't  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 05:53 PM   #26 
     - Support Requires More Than Platitudes  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 06:18 PM   #38 
        - mmmm, then why the republicans for dean on the dean blog?  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 06:42 PM   #50 
        - Dean's A rating from teh NRA says otherwise...  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:20 PM   #71 
     - Clark attracts a much more diverse crowd  loyalsister   Dec-06-03 07:00 PM   #62 
     - You're very wong on both counts...  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:09 PM   #65 
  - The question is...  jumptheshadow   Dec-06-03 05:22 PM   #2 
  - Keep your eyes on the prize.  Warpy   Dec-06-03 05:24 PM   #5 
  - wooohooooo!  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 05:23 PM   #3 
  - Time  mmonk   Dec-06-03 05:24 PM   #4 
  - Looking at these results..  SeveneightyWhoa   Dec-06-03 05:25 PM   #7 
  - That's because  Eloriel   Dec-06-03 05:30 PM   #12 
  - You nailed it  jumptheshadow   Dec-06-03 06:18 PM   #37 
     - Not so much a horse race as a boat race...  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:26 PM   #74 
  - yes, but it shows that Clark's lead is dropping where the margin  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 05:30 PM   #13 
  - "then we can say he's definitely getting the nomination"  SeveneightyWhoa   Dec-06-03 05:33 PM   #17 
     - God they are all bunched up ...  annxburns   Dec-06-03 05:37 PM   #19 
     - no, I'm not too confident about Dean winning----just realistic  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 05:39 PM   #20 
        - Reasons, not polls, will predict winner  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 05:52 PM   #25 
           - mmmm, then why does he have 500,000 supporters?  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 06:11 PM   #34 
              - Why Democrats Seen as Weak on Defense  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 06:27 PM   #41 
              - then you're just buying into the same fear that Bush spreads  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 06:29 PM   #42 
                 - Sad that some Dems spread GOP meme that other Dems will ban guns  blm   Dec-06-03 06:32 PM   #45 
                 - Ban Guns?  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 06:40 PM   #47 
                    - definitely not Dean---he got an A from the NRA from his years as Governor  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 06:43 PM   #51 
                       - Wouldn't Brag About NRA Support  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:02 PM   #63 
                          - Dean supports federal gun laws, but wants to leave state gun laws up to  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 07:08 PM   #64 
                             - What's the Difference?  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:13 PM   #67 
                                - Dean supports the Brady bill, and the ban on assault guns  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 07:18 PM   #70 
                                   - Right Position, but Will Dean Defend It?  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:25 PM   #73 
                                      - of course---the NRA didn't give him an A for his presidential campaign  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 07:29 PM   #75 
                                      - Is This A Dean Flip Flop?  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:36 PM   #79 
                                         - Another Clark Corps meme vomit machine....  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:47 PM   #82 
                                         - I Support Dean's Position  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:55 PM   #84 
                                         - thanks  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 10:14 PM   #95 
                                      - You seem very uninformed...  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:33 PM   #78 
                                         - Support in the South?  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:40 PM   #81 
                                            - Already answered this...  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:55 PM   #85 
                                            - Already answered this...  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:55 PM   #86 
                                            - See "I Support Dean's Position" Above  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 08:18 PM   #88 
                 - Again, Defense w/o Substance  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 06:38 PM   #46 
                    - Dean will say.....  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 06:46 PM   #53 
                    - So Dean's Foreign Policy = Bush's?  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 06:58 PM   #59 
                       - Dean has been to 52 countries  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 06:59 PM   #60 
                          - Lack of Foreign Policy Exp. Is the Problem Now  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:09 PM   #66 
                             - Bush went AWOL from the National Guard!  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 07:17 PM   #69 
                             - We Were Not At War  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:31 PM   #76 
                                - so you're saying that Clinton would've been crappy as a President  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 07:32 PM   #77 
                                   - Never Said Dean'd Make Crappy President  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:48 PM   #83 
                             - LOL! Bush now has more foreign policy experience?  TLM   Dec-06-03 07:39 PM   #80 
                                - Don't Take Bush For Granted  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 08:08 PM   #87 
                                   - Carter tried to rescue the hostages and failed.  TLM   Dec-06-03 08:20 PM   #89 
                    - The Bush Administration is lousy at defense  Kurovski   Dec-06-03 08:52 PM   #93 
              - Why Dems Seen as Weak on Defense  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 06:31 PM   #44 
              - Because he took a stand when it mattered  jumptheshadow   Dec-06-03 06:49 PM   #55 
                 - I wasn't politically passionate and so were hundreds of thousands of  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 06:51 PM   #56 
                    - Passion is Great, But Must Have More to Win  ginchinchili   Dec-06-03 07:21 PM   #72 
  - Dean gets more coverage because he has more people pushing for it.  TLM   Dec-06-03 05:34 PM   #18 
  - They've already done that, TLM....  slinkerwink   Dec-06-03 05:40 PM   #22 
  - EXACTLY!!!! They gave him a press plane in JUNE, fer chrissakes!  blm   Dec-06-03 06:11 PM   #35 
     - Who gave him a press plane in June?  party_line   Dec-06-03 08:29 PM   #91 
        - BLM says 'The Media' gave Dean a plane. Sooooo was it a 737 or was  polpilot   Dec-07-03 01:11 PM   #101 
  - Those numbers are very close  cally   Dec-06-03 05:26 PM   #8 
  - So, with the margin of error, it's a four-way dead heat.  VolcanoJen   Dec-06-03 05:31 PM   #15 
  - Holy Moly!  in_cog_ni_to   Dec-06-03 05:52 PM   #24 
  - Thank you  Jerseycoa   Dec-06-03 07:00 PM   #61 
  - Look, Clark is fading!  Mattforclark   Dec-06-03 05:59 PM   #29 
  - Dean is the Media-Designated Winner  DrBB   Dec-06-03 06:05 PM   #31 
  - Interesting...  Duder   Dec-06-03 06:19 PM   #39 
  - What do people base their decisions on, anyway?  HypnoToad   Dec-06-03 06:29 PM   #43 
  - Let's just get the mission done!!!!!  goforit   Dec-06-03 06:48 PM   #54 
  - DU "Dean hatred" is a misconception, it's actually fear of a Bush win.  oasis   Dec-06-03 10:53 PM   #98 
  - :kick:  slinkerwink   Dec-07-03 12:39 PM   #100 
 

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