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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 09:06 PM
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31. The last thing socialists need is a history lesson
they're more aware of history than most others I could name :eyes:

and you're reasoning is invalid because the US and Weimar Germany have different forms of republican government (which we have, a democratic republic). Plus you are mixing revolutionaries, regular socialists, communist non-revolutionaries and a COMPLETELY different time period and frame of mind.

Good try though.

I agree nader is a fool to run again, but smashing on the greens and socialists (who predominantly vote dem anyway knowing the danger of reactionaries) does nothing to aide the problem
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  -Here is my problem with Nader (a history lesson for socialists) jpgray  Jul-26-03 12:00 AM   #0 
  - hmm  leftyandproud   Jul-26-03 12:11 AM   #1 
  - Not by his own statements  jpgray   Jul-26-03 12:14 AM   #2 
  - Pathetic  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-26-03 08:11 AM   #18 
  - If Progressives Want to Take Back the Party  mot78   Jul-26-03 12:26 AM   #4 
  - Exactly!  union_maid   Jul-26-03 06:34 AM   #16 
  - why pull to the left  mdmc   Jul-26-03 12:27 AM   #5 
     - I disagree, we do need to pull to the left  jpgray   Jul-26-03 12:29 AM   #6 
     - 1988...group forms...swings right...  Terwilliger   Jul-26-03 12:37 AM   #7 
  - Exactly and he has drafted his army  Clete   Jul-26-03 12:18 AM   #3 
  - Nader has been quite clear what his agenda is  JackSwift   Jul-26-03 12:46 AM   #8 
  - I just found this website.  Clete   Jul-26-03 12:57 AM   #9 
  - I'm familiar with that  JackSwift   Jul-26-03 10:41 PM   #40 
  - The system needs work, and socialism does have something to offer  jpgray   Jul-26-03 12:57 AM   #10 
  - Actually what I have been reading about Hitler is that  Clete   Jul-26-03 01:06 AM   #11 
  - Right, Hitler didn't know what he was doing  jpgray   Jul-26-03 02:24 AM   #12 
  - Pure socialism works very well  Mairead   Jul-26-03 06:10 PM   #28 
  - the way I see it..  leftyandproud   Jul-26-03 02:36 AM   #13 
  - I hope this is the case  jpgray   Jul-26-03 02:44 AM   #14 
  - socialism as defined by corporate capitalism  blindpig   Jul-26-03 08:59 AM   #21 
  - Your premise seems faulty to me  Ardee   Jul-26-03 09:26 AM   #22 
  - The Nader Stalin comparison was not a premise  JackSwift   Jul-26-03 10:56 PM   #42 
     - if you're representative of the Democratic party  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 08:36 AM   #50 
     - Jack dont know Jack  Ardee   Jul-28-03 06:16 AM   #54 
  - Representative democracy is in crisis  aneerkoinos   Jul-26-03 02:51 PM   #24 
     - representative democracy in crisis, take 2  aneerkoinos   Jul-26-03 03:09 PM   #25 
  - I normally haven't even one good word to say about Stalin  Mairead   Jul-26-03 05:46 AM   #15 
  - Hi mot78!!  newyawker99   Jul-26-03 07:42 AM   #17 
  - It isn't a workable strategy  jpgray   Jul-26-03 08:55 PM   #30 
  - I think the difference in our perceptions  Mairead   Jul-27-03 08:25 AM   #47 
  - If you consider peace and prosperity to be bad stuff  JackSwift   Jul-26-03 10:58 PM   #43 
     - Clinton's reforms certainly do speak for themselves  Mairead   Jul-27-03 08:06 AM   #45 
  - Has "heightening the contradictions" ever actually worked?  QC   Jul-26-03 08:21 AM   #19 
  - In post WW2 Germany  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-26-03 08:42 AM   #20 
  - Hmm, it may or may not work as political strategy  aneerkoinos   Jul-26-03 03:26 PM   #27 
  - nader as stalinist.  KG   Jul-26-03 09:30 AM   #23 
  - His theory is a twin of Stalin's "social-fascism"  jpgray   Jul-26-03 08:45 PM   #29 
  - nader, unfortunately is a capitalist.  jonnyblitz   Jul-26-03 03:14 PM   #26 
  - the Nader haters dont seem to realize that  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 08:37 AM   #51 
  - The last thing socialists need is a history lesson  youngred   Jul-26-03 09:06 PM   #31 
  - The Two Differant Socialisms  mot78   Jul-26-03 09:14 PM   #32 
  - well you bring up interesting points  JohnKleeb   Jul-26-03 09:52 PM   #36 
  - No Nation Has Ever Had  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-27-03 08:21 AM   #46 
     - You should probably check your facts and definitions  Mairead   Jul-27-03 08:28 AM   #49 
        - How So  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-27-03 09:01 AM   #52 
  - not exactly  youngred   Jul-26-03 10:25 PM   #37 
     - yes Soviet Communism is different  JohnKleeb   Jul-26-03 10:37 PM   #39 
  - Sorry, that doesn't address the argument  jpgray   Jul-26-03 09:16 PM   #33 
  - Well it comes across as such  youngred   Jul-26-03 10:36 PM   #38 
     - I agree here completely; sorry if you thought my post was arrogant  jpgray   Jul-27-03 01:04 AM   #44 
  - In my experience socialists know very little about history  JackSwift   Jul-26-03 10:46 PM   #41 
  - Good freaking grief.  aquart   Jul-26-03 09:41 PM   #34 
  - ? (nt)  jpgray   Jul-26-03 09:44 PM   #35 
  - I'm Just Saying This Now  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-27-03 08:27 AM   #48 
  - History pimp  MSchreader   Jul-28-03 01:06 AM   #53 
     - hee  Ardee   Jul-28-03 06:23 AM   #55 
        - jpgray didn't think so  MSchreader   Jul-28-03 07:53 AM   #56 
 

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