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Wed Dec-03-03 01:04 PM
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| 141. And tell me what medical school did you graduate from? |
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You seem to have more knowledge of how back conditions are agravated by combat and traiing than the draft board doctors. So where'd you get your medical degree again?
Also did Dean ski with 60 or 70 pounds of gear on his back?
"Showing up at the draft board with a letter from an orthopedic specialist and an X-ray demonstrating a bad back was not an option for most Americans — only the sons of priviledge were given that way out."
Once again, where do you get this retarded idea that only the rich had acess to doctors in the 60's? An X-ray wasn't some space aged million dollar procedure, even in the 60's. Most people had access to basic levels of care.
And the fact is even if they did not have an x-ray and a doctor's note, the average kids who told the draft board doc that they had pain in their back when they ran, would get that checked out in the physical.
And even if they made it passed the physical, the problem would have shown up the first time they had to run 5 or 10 milies in full gear.
So this whole argument is stupid and desperate.
But I guess the war hawk candidates, Kerry, CLark, and Bush all have nothing else to run on so they will all campaign the same way, use the same tactics, and harp on Dean being rejected by the draft board.
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| - Dean admitting that he didn't want to go to Vietnam hurt him in the South |
Marines for Clark |
Dec-02-03 08:50 PM |
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A fair question... |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-02-03 08:51 PM |
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Frankly I have been predicting Dean's reception in the South |
Racenut20 |
Dec-02-03 08:54 PM |
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You're very astute, Racenut |
wtmusic |
Dec-02-03 08:55 PM |
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What about the Dem Nomination? |
Bill of Rights |
Dec-02-03 09:56 PM |
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Tell it here |
sangh0 |
Dec-03-03 10:31 AM |
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I can tell you with certainty... |
Anaxamander |
Dec-03-03 08:13 AM |
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You do realize it's 11 months before elections, right? |
J B |
Dec-02-03 08:54 PM |
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Captured on videotape for eternity. |
BillyBunter |
Dec-02-03 09:04 PM |
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Imagine that. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Dec-02-03 09:10 PM |
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One it is. |
BillyBunter |
Dec-02-03 10:05 PM |
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LMAO |
Forkboy |
Dec-02-03 10:10 PM |
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Not exactly what I said. |
BillyBunter |
Dec-02-03 10:53 PM |
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It's not what you said |
Forkboy |
Dec-02-03 11:01 PM |
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Of course it is. |
BillyBunter |
Dec-02-03 11:08 PM |
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Glad you agree |
Forkboy |
Dec-02-03 11:10 PM |
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Ask Wes Clark if he wanted to go. |
diamondsoul |
Dec-02-03 10:47 PM |
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So what do you say to the people, |
BillyBunter |
Dec-02-03 11:02 PM |
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Well now, you've raised some salient |
diamondsoul |
Dec-02-03 11:35 PM |
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why do you keep calling it DRAFT DODGING? |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-03-03 08:33 AM |
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For the same reason republicans call it partial birth abortion |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:12 PM |
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Dean did his duty.... and the military rejected him. |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:06 PM |
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Here's what I say: |
Chomskyite |
Dec-03-03 12:45 PM |
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Look I'm not |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-03-03 01:09 AM |
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LOL |
Jack_Dawson |
Dec-03-03 03:24 AM |
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The funny thing is, the people you're talking about didn't serve |
SharonAnn |
Dec-03-03 01:05 PM |
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I agree with this.... |
brent of rppper |
Dec-04-03 07:13 PM |
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If he wanted to go he would have enlisted |
wtmusic |
Dec-02-03 08:54 PM |
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Thats odd most of my family from the south |
Sterling |
Dec-02-03 08:56 PM |
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So it is apparently helping him |
wtmusic |
Dec-02-03 09:02 PM |
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Just imagine how most young men today |
Demobrat |
Dec-02-03 09:07 PM |
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The Military south |
Marines for Clark |
Dec-02-03 09:09 PM |
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And yet they are fine with a commander in chief |
Demobrat |
Dec-02-03 09:13 PM |
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They don't have a choice, do they? |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Dec-02-03 10:24 PM |
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funny |
DS1 |
Dec-02-03 09:14 PM |
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What do they normally call each other? |
Demobrat |
Dec-02-03 09:27 PM |
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Marines |
DS1 |
Dec-02-03 09:28 PM |
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Arent you a vet yourself DS1? |
JohnKleeb |
Dec-02-03 10:00 PM |
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Yes, it's just one of those things |
DS1 |
Dec-02-03 10:22 PM |
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I noticed that too... |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:14 PM |
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Fellow North Carolinian here |
HFishbine |
Dec-02-03 09:15 PM |
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Marines for Clark - So they like Bush for being AWOL? |
BEFOREATHOUGHT |
Dec-02-03 09:15 PM |
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Did Troops Know..... |
CityZen-X |
Dec-02-03 09:19 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-02-03 10:04 PM |
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Since Bush went Awol I don't understand your point |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 03:02 AM |
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This is what I'm talking about Deanies |
Jack_Dawson |
Dec-03-03 03:29 AM |
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I am very close friends with many active and retired military guys |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-02-03 09:03 PM |
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What Dean said last night is exactly the kind of answers people want. |
Darth_Ole |
Dec-02-03 09:08 PM |
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And as soon as he said it |
Demobrat |
Dec-02-03 09:23 PM |
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I agree! |
slinkerwink |
Dec-02-03 09:26 PM |
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I predict that if Clark wins alot of are more Rovian Clarkies |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 03:08 AM |
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They were clapping because... |
Jack_Dawson |
Dec-03-03 03:33 AM |
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Dean is polling the best with moderate and indi voters. |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:24 PM |
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Exactly.... if people had WANTED to go to vietnam... |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:17 PM |
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More talking points from the clark blog... |
TLM |
Dec-02-03 09:07 PM |
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I predict it'll hurt him just as much as… |
pruner |
Dec-02-03 09:07 PM |
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but not nearly as much as |
frustrated_lefty |
Dec-02-03 09:10 PM |
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About that tattoo |
HFishbine |
Dec-02-03 09:17 PM |
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lol |
Forkboy |
Dec-02-03 09:08 PM |
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Clark or Kerry |
Marines for Clark |
Dec-02-03 09:14 PM |
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What is your reply to poster who asked if you like bush because |
MoonAndSun |
Dec-02-03 09:20 PM |
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Why would the put their life on Awol Bush who is infinately worse! |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 03:10 AM |
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I agree |
Jack_Dawson |
Dec-03-03 03:36 AM |
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Why does this hurt him? |
ellie |
Dec-02-03 09:11 PM |
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1st I want to say I don't like Dean, 2nd I want to say I don't like Dean |
Democrats unite |
Dec-02-03 09:17 PM |
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Clark or Kerry |
Marines for Clark |
Dec-02-03 09:18 PM |
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Reply to poster #23 please. |
MoonAndSun |
Dec-02-03 09:22 PM |
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Thought you might be |
HFishbine |
Dec-02-03 09:31 PM |
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I'm sorry, but |
Don Claybrook |
Dec-03-03 08:13 AM |
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rotfl |
sandnsea |
Dec-03-03 03:22 AM |
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It'll hurt him just about as much as it hurt Clinton |
farmbo |
Dec-02-03 09:28 PM |
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Possibly... |
Field Of Dreams |
Dec-02-03 09:31 PM |
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Keep in mind...women cast over half the Southern votes... |
farmbo |
Dec-02-03 09:45 PM |
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The south will hurt Dean |
Marines for Clark |
Dec-02-03 10:05 PM |
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I live in the South...Alabama to be exact, and I was born in Virginia... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Dec-02-03 11:06 PM |
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Gore was a son of the South and a veteran who didn't go awol |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 03:12 AM |
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But Clinton was charming |
jumptheshadow |
Dec-03-03 06:15 AM |
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It remains to be seen... |
farmbo |
Dec-03-03 08:27 AM |
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YooHoo!!! Marines For Clark....where are you? |
MoonAndSun |
Dec-02-03 09:31 PM |
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Its amazing |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-02-03 09:35 PM |
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I'm former military, but there are quite a few Democrats that distrust... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Dec-02-03 11:16 PM |
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Yes |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-02-03 11:21 PM |
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I don't think that is factual |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 03:16 AM |
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I'm glad you qualified that,because |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-03-03 03:59 AM |
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Clark said he would have voted for the IWR! |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 05:19 AM |
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You have to look at his whole record |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-03-03 09:51 AM |
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I don't think you read what I posted. What specifically about my post... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Dec-03-03 12:43 PM |
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Here's the post I promised |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-03-03 03:49 AM |
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Hurt him? |
Donna Zen |
Dec-02-03 09:36 PM |
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Newsflash, the liberal base of the dem party... don't want a war hawk |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:39 PM |
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Does Dean's admitting that he was not and is not an idiot hurt him? |
damnraddem |
Dec-02-03 09:37 PM |
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Moon my reply |
Marines for Clark |
Dec-02-03 09:49 PM |
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Thanks for your reply back, Marines For Clark, |
MoonAndSun |
Dec-02-03 10:07 PM |
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No, Dean never had those votes.... |
Rowdyboy |
Dec-03-03 12:54 AM |
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Not really |
lastliberalintexas |
Dec-03-03 01:11 PM |
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www.awolbush.com |
Bill of Rights |
Dec-02-03 10:11 PM |
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Whomever is the nominee needs to make it an issue and get |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 03:19 AM |
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To be honest |
fujiyama |
Dec-02-03 09:45 PM |
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Dean's Candor |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-02-03 11:21 PM |
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No, it won't. |
Dob Bole |
Dec-02-03 09:46 PM |
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South Carolina |
Nicholas_J |
Dec-02-03 09:58 PM |
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Whaaat? |
HFishbine |
Dec-02-03 10:56 PM |
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And |
Chomskyite |
Dec-03-03 12:57 PM |
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Some people approve, some people don't |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-02-03 09:59 PM |
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Yep, Tom, you make some very salient points. We cannot afford to forget |
karlschneider |
Dec-02-03 10:23 PM |
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Bush not wanting to go to Vietnam didn't hurt him! |
SharonAnn |
Dec-02-03 10:16 PM |
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I disagree |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-02-03 10:29 PM |
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As far as Vietnam goes, why should this be an issue when the |
caledesi |
Dec-02-03 10:21 PM |
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southerners aren't stupid |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Dec-02-03 10:23 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-02-03 10:29 PM |
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Gee, wish I had 628 posts... |
AnnitaR |
Dec-02-03 10:54 PM |
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Sad, I thought we had gotten beyond "my post count is bigger |
Rowdyboy |
Dec-03-03 12:56 AM |
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AnnitaR |
newyawker99 |
Dec-03-03 08:04 AM |
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And Clark wanting stricter gun laws will hurt him |
party_line |
Dec-02-03 10:37 PM |
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Yes, I bet it will |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-02-03 10:48 PM |
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Clarks strategy |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-02-03 11:59 PM |
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I dunno if it will. Will the South continue to hurt itself |
Kurovski |
Dec-02-03 11:22 PM |
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Didn't hurt him in this area of the *South*. |
madfloridian |
Dec-02-03 11:27 PM |
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How the South will reject Dean |
CWebster |
Dec-03-03 01:42 AM |
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Didn't hurt Clinton |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 02:57 AM |
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Sure as hell didn't hurt Clinton in the south |
VermontDem2004 |
Dec-03-03 03:36 AM |
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Clinton was FROM the south - big diff |
Jack_Dawson |
Dec-03-03 03:45 AM |
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It doesn't matter |
VermontDem2004 |
Dec-03-03 03:47 AM |
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Good Logic |
Jack_Dawson |
Dec-03-03 03:50 AM |
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If you think the fact that he got a deferment will hurt him is your |
VermontDem2004 |
Dec-03-03 04:02 AM |
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Gore is Southern and didn't dodge the draft, and he did worse the Clinton |
Classical_Liberal |
Dec-03-03 05:25 AM |
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Conventional wisdom. |
HuckleB |
Dec-03-03 12:17 PM |
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I can't believe so many of you responded to this thread... |
rumguy |
Dec-03-03 03:38 AM |
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yes we must always watch what we say because of the south |
CMT |
Dec-03-03 06:51 AM |
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Dean's a coward, like Bush. |
Octafish |
Dec-03-03 07:48 AM |
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speaking of COWARDS, yessing BushCo is hardly brave |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-03-03 08:40 AM |
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Coward Dean, a moderate -- conservative on fiscal issues. |
Octafish |
Dec-03-03 09:13 AM |
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coward Kerry, Iraq war enabler, peace protestor/warrior |
ima_sinnic |
Dec-03-03 09:48 AM |
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Nice job on offering the false choice. Howard is still a coward. |
Octafish |
Dec-03-03 10:26 AM |
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How is going on with your life cowardly? |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:55 PM |
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Pick and choose what you want. The truth is Dean is a draft-dodger. |
Octafish |
Dec-06-03 01:24 AM |
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Yeah I just love the way Kerry bravly lied about throwing his metals |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 12:47 PM |
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At least Kerry had some medals to throw! |
Octafish |
Dec-06-03 01:30 AM |
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Baloney attacks are also cowardly. |
HuckleB |
Dec-03-03 12:11 PM |
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Spending the winter skiing shows Dean's back was fine. |
Octafish |
Dec-03-03 12:23 PM |
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No, it doesn't. |
HuckleB |
Dec-03-03 12:27 PM |
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Ho-Ho's own words... |
Octafish |
Dec-06-03 01:42 AM |
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And tell me what medical school did you graduate from? |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 01:04 PM |
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I'm no doc, but I can spot a phony. Dean's back was OK when he hiked VT. |
Octafish |
Dec-06-03 01:37 AM |
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I have yet to meet a person who was excited at the prospect of |
MrsGrumpy |
Dec-03-03 08:30 AM |
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Who better understands the horros of war |
Hep |
Dec-03-03 08:58 AM |
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I don't get it. Doesn't everyone who gets drafted NOT want to go to war? |
dkf |
Dec-03-03 10:31 AM |
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Will this attitude change if Bush reinstitutes the draft? |
dansolo |
Dec-03-03 11:48 AM |
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Exactly. |
Darth_Ole |
Dec-03-03 12:57 PM |
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THat's a great question.... if a new draft becomes an issue |
TLM |
Dec-03-03 01:06 PM |
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actually....if i may add |
brent of rppper |
Dec-04-03 07:19 PM |
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Yes & No. |
Silverhair |
Dec-06-03 09:13 AM |
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It's really hurt him so far |
Hep |
Dec-06-03 09:17 AM |
#152 |