BevHarris
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Thu Jul-24-03 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 29. Well the state people "escrow the source code" |
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How do we know it is the same? Perhaps the checksum, but wouldn't that go all woozly after about 3 or four of these unexamined "patches" they keep slapping on there?
As for the state people actually looking at the source code, I've interviewed several and haven't found a one that does, but Florida makes hrrmph-hrrmph noises as if they do.
Bev
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| -Diebold weighs in with rebuttals -- want to weigh in with the facts? |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 08:32 PM |
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Bev--can I ask you somethng |
Starpass |
Jul-24-03 08:39 PM |
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Good question Starpass... |
Flubadubya |
Jul-24-03 08:44 PM |
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They're not at all happy. Note that sponsors for Rush Holt's bill |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 08:44 PM |
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Rebuttal to Point #1 |
DEMActivist |
Jul-24-03 09:02 PM |
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Really am punchy, but before I forget...from their own manuals |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 08:41 PM |
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I will distribute to my lists - If you or Allen will email them to me -or |
papau |
Jul-24-03 08:41 PM |
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Hey Bev!!! You;re Back.. I Have A Favour To Ask DU |
althecat |
Jul-24-03 08:42 PM |
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Did so. Hey, there were a couple broken links in your article |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 08:56 PM |
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Fixed now... Good spotting... |
althecat |
Jul-24-03 09:11 PM |
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It's on Yahoo! |
SharonAnn |
Jul-24-03 10:33 PM |
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it was on the 6:00 news here in CA! |
arcane1 |
Jul-24-03 08:52 PM |
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That's great, arcane1 |
dmr |
Jul-24-03 10:42 PM |
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I saw that too |
proud patriot |
Jul-25-03 02:54 AM |
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#1 - Fine - show us your current code. |
Stephanie |
Jul-24-03 08:42 PM |
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I don't have supporting data for most of these, but... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 08:44 PM |
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Knew you'd be awesome. |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 08:48 PM |
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On #6... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 08:53 PM |
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About that voter recall: Has it ever been done? |
aquart |
Jul-24-03 09:23 PM |
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I'm on it Bev although a little 'punchy' myself! |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-24-03 09:00 PM |
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Check particularly #4, if you would. |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 09:06 PM |
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Well the state people "escrow the source code" |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 09:27 PM |
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"go all woozly "? Is that a new technical term? I like it! |
SharonAnn |
Jul-24-03 10:36 PM |
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I agree, re #1 |
Spazito |
Jul-24-03 08:56 PM |
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i would add to number two that |
bpilgrim |
Jul-24-03 09:48 PM |
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I really don't understand alot about this, but #6 sounds |
alaine |
Jul-24-03 08:50 PM |
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LOL -- can you just see running around Baltimore trying to find |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 08:53 PM |
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But did they ever do it? |
aquart |
Jul-24-03 09:26 PM |
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There was a place in North Carolina that did, but I think it was ES&S |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 09:33 PM |
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Thank you. Not that they would. And guess which |
alaine |
Jul-24-03 09:52 PM |
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IIRC, others have said the same thing about... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 10:01 PM |
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coming back with their standard pitch |
PATRICK |
Jul-24-03 09:01 PM |
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Here's mine |
LizW |
Jul-24-03 09:01 PM |
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Woo hoo -- there's a gem. |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 09:36 PM |
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Here's some rebuttals... |
gristy |
Jul-24-03 09:04 PM |
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Yes |
Zan_of_Texas |
Jul-25-03 01:36 AM |
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Upcoming USENIX Security conference in DC relevant here? |
DrBB |
Jul-24-03 09:07 PM |
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This issue has been on the agenda for some time |
DEMActivist |
Jul-24-03 09:11 PM |
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Yup--Dill is on the e-voting session panel. |
DrBB |
Jul-24-03 09:17 PM |
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Laughable. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-24-03 09:23 PM |
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Woh! Tahiti! Suddenly another favorite of mine appears |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 09:40 PM |
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Okay |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-03 09:28 PM |
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On #3, maybe a good response would be... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 09:43 PM |
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If they want to come out with a straightforward rebuttal that will stand |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Jul-24-03 09:34 PM |
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Excellent. Precisely right. |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-03 10:24 PM |
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Is there a need for "official" response - or do we just pull from these |
papau |
Jul-24-03 09:42 PM |
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Looking for logical, powerful, factual rebuttals that also help the press |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 09:50 PM |
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WEIGH IN? NEW REBUTTAL - Georgia official Michael Barnes |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 10:01 PM |
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MORE: New AJC article |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 10:05 PM |
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Okay.... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 10:13 PM |
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We want science, not art(ful dodgers). |
TahitiNut |
Jul-24-03 10:17 PM |
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I saw that... that new quote from barns is fascinating... |
althecat |
Jul-25-03 12:24 AM |
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I find this quote interesting: |
ibegurpard |
Jul-25-03 01:42 AM |
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Umm... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 10:06 PM |
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MORE FROM BARNES (he was chatty today) |
BevHarris |
Jul-24-03 10:09 PM |
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This says, in essence, that... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 10:21 PM |
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Don't forget that reporters and writers often take things out of context |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-03 10:32 PM |
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Mercuri Should Write To The Editor About This |
althecat |
Jul-25-03 12:26 AM |
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Two words: Palm Pilot |
TahitiNut |
Jul-24-03 10:11 PM |
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A laptop? What about an iPaq? |
aquart |
Jul-24-03 10:38 PM |
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In fact all you need |
PATRICK |
Jul-24-03 11:22 PM |
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Rebuttal to point 1 |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-24-03 10:01 PM |
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"Rebuttal to point 2" |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-25-03 03:31 AM |
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"Rebuttal to point 3" |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-25-03 05:52 AM |
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"Rebuttal to point 4" |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-25-03 06:59 AM |
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"Rebuttal to point 5" |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-25-03 07:03 AM |
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"Rebuttal to point 6" |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-25-03 07:24 AM |
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Summery |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-25-03 07:44 AM |
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Sigh. |
bemildred |
Jul-24-03 10:13 PM |
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This may be redundant.... |
RedEagle |
Jul-24-03 10:41 PM |
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#6 is key |
noiretblu |
Jul-24-03 10:25 PM |
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It's against the law in every state (I think) to identify... |
punpirate |
Jul-24-03 10:38 PM |
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federal law (or some law) requires |
gristy |
Jul-24-03 10:38 PM |
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thanks...that makes sense |
noiretblu |
Jul-24-03 10:51 PM |
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The point, though, is that if... |
punpirate |
Jul-25-03 12:00 AM |
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Ask more questions, so they can tell you more lies! |
bumbler |
Jul-24-03 11:38 PM |
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An interesting statistic that is probably meaningless. But... |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Jul-24-03 11:39 PM |
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While the code is badly bloated... |
punpirate |
Jul-25-03 12:04 AM |
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Moony Times runs with AP story |
Bushfire |
Jul-25-03 12:11 AM |
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The thing I found most curious |
Oaf Of Office |
Jul-25-03 12:15 AM |
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Ok lets take these one at a time... |
classics |
Jul-25-03 12:52 AM |
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Well done. Here's my husband's rebuttal: |
BevHarris |
Jul-25-03 01:27 AM |
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Perfect! |
jpgray |
Jul-25-03 02:52 AM |
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#5 - "...we've had great success with them". LOL! I'll bet they have! |
Dover |
Jul-25-03 01:06 AM |
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Ok |
Zan_of_Texas |
Jul-25-03 01:57 AM |
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Ah, and the rebuttal in the Washington Post: |
BevHarris |
Jul-25-03 01:47 AM |
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Okay, Alleghany County... |
punpirate |
Jul-25-03 02:07 AM |
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Have they verified that code has been updated? Or that the code that |
Dover |
Jul-25-03 02:48 AM |
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No, they've merely asserted that it is so... |
punpirate |
Jul-25-03 04:34 AM |
#82 |
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