| 139. I Welcome Critical Examination |
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O.K., Bill O'Reilly.
I merely asked people not to flame me. Attack my ideas. I encourage it. Just don't attack me as a person.
Say I'm obsessed with ideological purity if you want. Of course, there's a counterpoint to that: you're willing to put your head in the sand and pretend that all will be well if you vote for a Democrat.
Which one of us is right? Time will tell...
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| -Why I Won't Vote Democratic in 2004 |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 04:18 PM |
#0 |
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No, no flame but . . . |
dodger501 |
Nov-23-03 04:20 PM |
#1 |
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Well then welcome to 1984, 20 years later |
joeybee12 |
Nov-23-03 04:20 PM |
#2 |
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How do you figure? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 04:25 PM |
#4 |
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For one thing, I believe if Al Gore had been inaugurated (he was elected, |
joeybee12 |
Nov-23-03 04:27 PM |
#7 |
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Tell this to my nephew |
The Zanti Regent |
Nov-23-03 05:23 PM |
#45 |
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No... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:27 PM |
#47 |
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Tell yourself that if you like " The ruling class of this country sent hi" |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-23-03 09:02 PM |
#170 |
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What does he care? |
bluestateguy |
Nov-23-03 09:10 PM |
#176 |
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What a joke. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 09:42 PM |
#187 |
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Thank You |
bluestateguy |
Nov-23-03 08:58 PM |
#168 |
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it's called baby steps... |
toddzilla |
Nov-23-03 04:20 PM |
#3 |
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No, it's called going backwards, just not quite as fast |
starroute |
Nov-23-03 05:06 PM |
#38 |
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by your own words, you should be a Democrat and vote for Kucinich |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-23-03 04:25 PM |
#5 |
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A Few Qualifications |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 04:42 PM |
#15 |
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Kucinich is no fraud... |
wheresthemind |
Nov-23-03 04:52 PM |
#23 |
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your class analysis is seriously out of date |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-23-03 05:03 PM |
#33 |
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Oh, geez... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:22 PM |
#44 |
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Zzzzzaaamp! Thank you for playing, your answer is incorrect |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-23-03 09:22 PM |
#182 |
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Obviously |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 09:58 PM |
#190 |
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Obviously |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-24-03 12:41 AM |
#228 |
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actually, his analysis is right on |
camero |
Nov-23-03 08:28 PM |
#149 |
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Oh Jesus Christ. |
theemu |
Nov-23-03 09:37 PM |
#185 |
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If you want to deny the truth, go right ahead. |
camero |
Nov-23-03 11:55 PM |
#221 |
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I will share your tender concerns and reasoned analysis |
WillyBrandt |
Nov-23-03 04:26 PM |
#6 |
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May I add to your astute analysis? |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-23-03 04:51 PM |
#20 |
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Really? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 04:51 PM |
#22 |
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Logic-chopping the blood away |
WillyBrandt |
Nov-23-03 05:00 PM |
#30 |
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I'm Draft Age |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:14 PM |
#42 |
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I'm draft age too, buddy |
WillyBrandt |
Nov-23-03 08:21 PM |
#144 |
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If a politician says it, it must be true! |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:26 PM |
#148 |
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If a politician says it, it must be false |
WillyBrandt |
Nov-23-03 08:30 PM |
#151 |
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Kosovo |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:41 PM |
#162 |
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We're done |
WillyBrandt |
Nov-23-03 08:51 PM |
#165 |
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"Not immediately but ultimately" |
WillyBrandt |
Nov-23-03 05:06 PM |
#37 |
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wrong |
alarimer |
Nov-23-03 05:56 PM |
#62 |
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So instead... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 06:08 PM |
#70 |
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What candidate has said that anything would be different under them? |
dawgman |
Nov-23-03 05:20 PM |
#43 |
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Yea he should vote for one of the Dems... |
RapidCreek |
Nov-23-03 11:39 PM |
#218 |
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Lesser of two evils |
slackdude |
Nov-23-03 04:31 PM |
#8 |
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I agree with you Slack......Get rid of the idiot in thief and thugs |
buff2 |
Nov-23-03 04:50 PM |
#19 |
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Worse, yes... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 04:53 PM |
#25 |
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Think about it |
slackdude |
Nov-23-03 04:57 PM |
#27 |
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Well... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:30 PM |
#49 |
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True, but... |
slackdude |
Nov-23-03 05:53 PM |
#58 |
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So? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:55 PM |
#61 |
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So what's your solution? |
slackdude |
Nov-23-03 08:00 PM |
#128 |
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Exactly! |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:30 PM |
#150 |
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I can dig it |
slackdude |
Nov-23-03 08:53 PM |
#166 |
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My Two Cents |
JailBush |
Nov-23-03 04:31 PM |
#9 |
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It doesn't have all the answers. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 04:55 PM |
#26 |
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Just finished 'People's History of the United States,' eh? |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-23-03 04:34 PM |
#10 |
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It IS a good book. |
JanMichael |
Nov-23-03 04:39 PM |
#13 |
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Then |
wryter2000 |
Nov-23-03 04:35 PM |
#11 |
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Because |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 04:58 PM |
#28 |
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Nader said there was no difference |
childslibrarian |
Nov-23-03 04:37 PM |
#12 |
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Who helped the Repubs? |
mad_as_hell |
Nov-23-03 04:45 PM |
#16 |
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Yes, neither party is perfect |
childslibrarian |
Nov-23-03 05:05 PM |
#35 |
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I didn't say there's no difference. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:01 PM |
#32 |
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I disagree wirh your analysis |
childslibrarian |
Nov-23-03 05:08 PM |
#39 |
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I Disagree |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:33 PM |
#50 |
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I disagree when you say the US |
ikojo |
Nov-23-03 07:21 PM |
#93 |
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You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. |
Selwynn |
Nov-23-03 04:41 PM |
#14 |
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Well... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:35 PM |
#51 |
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I disagree that the alternatives are worse... |
Selwynn |
Nov-23-03 10:50 PM |
#209 |
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Go ahead. It isn't like it matters if bush wins again. The world will not |
roguevalley |
Nov-23-03 04:48 PM |
#17 |
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You bring up many points that are valid concerns. |
Tatiana |
Nov-23-03 04:49 PM |
#18 |
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Well, exercise your right to vote |
eileen_d |
Nov-23-03 04:51 PM |
#21 |
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I Completely Understand Your Frustration, But..... |
zinsky |
Nov-23-03 04:52 PM |
# |
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this place is called DU |
AmericanDem |
Nov-23-03 04:52 PM |
#24 |
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I am a democrat. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:41 PM |
#53 |
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How is advocating Walt Brown for president... |
Padraig18 |
Nov-23-03 07:05 PM |
#87 |
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Waaaah! |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:27 PM |
#97 |
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How ridiculous is that??? MORE RIDICULOUS! |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 08:15 PM |
#138 |
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How is Nader responsible? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:23 PM |
#145 |
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yea why are you? |
sujan |
Nov-23-03 06:20 PM |
#72 |
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What will you do when santorum runs for re-election?? |
mlawson |
Nov-23-03 04:58 PM |
#29 |
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Your analysis is correct but action is all wrong |
mad_as_hell |
Nov-23-03 05:01 PM |
#31 |
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Here is a good quote from Kushner for you to mull over, I believe he |
demgrrrll |
Nov-23-03 05:05 PM |
#34 |
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Thanks for that |
childslibrarian |
Nov-23-03 05:10 PM |
#40 |
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As I've said before: |
HypnoToad |
Nov-23-03 05:06 PM |
#36 |
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Hope it feels good.... |
dobak |
Nov-23-03 05:14 PM |
#41 |
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Again |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:47 PM |
#55 |
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Disseminate your ideas some other way.. |
dobak |
Nov-23-03 11:38 PM |
#217 |
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The Whigs |
pop goes the weasel |
Nov-23-03 09:49 PM |
#188 |
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Then you are voting for Bush, it is that simple, in this system. |
Prodemsouth |
Nov-23-03 05:26 PM |
#46 |
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hit the nail on the head |
cheryl27 |
Nov-23-03 05:39 PM |
#52 |
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"Democratic "liberals" became avid Cold Warriors" |
Q |
Nov-23-03 05:29 PM |
#48 |
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What?! |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 05:45 PM |
#54 |
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funny too, the Socialists USA |
OKNancy |
Nov-23-03 05:55 PM |
#60 |
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Yes and No |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 06:01 PM |
#65 |
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EXACTLY |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 07:23 PM |
#94 |
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I know quite well what I'm talking about. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:49 PM |
#116 |
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You may have book "knowledge" on the subjects |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-24-03 12:49 AM |
#230 |
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Are you denying it? |
slackdude |
Nov-23-03 06:04 PM |
#69 |
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if you truly believe that there are only "small" differences |
spooky3 |
Nov-23-03 05:49 PM |
#56 |
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It's been done. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 06:03 PM |
#67 |
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Everyone must unite. |
Zorra |
Nov-23-03 05:49 PM |
#57 |
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Many persons insist on almost 100% agreement |
mlawson |
Nov-23-03 05:57 PM |
#63 |
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defeat shrub |
cheryl l |
Nov-23-03 07:38 PM |
#109 |
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Welcome to DU, cheryl! |
Zhade |
Nov-23-03 08:06 PM |
#131 |
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Well, that's brilliant! Thanks for endorsing Bush! |
leesa |
Nov-23-03 05:54 PM |
#59 |
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Vote Republican then. Don't just go half way by voting for yourself. (n/t) |
w4rma |
Nov-23-03 05:59 PM |
#64 |
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The American Voter |
solinvictus |
Nov-23-03 06:02 PM |
#66 |
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That's just..........................silly |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-24-03 12:55 AM |
#233 |
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If Bush Wins In 2004... |
Yavin4 |
Nov-23-03 06:04 PM |
#68 |
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the "neocons" |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 06:19 PM |
#71 |
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Then Explain Why Clinton Didn't Overthrow Saddam |
Yavin4 |
Nov-23-03 06:31 PM |
#75 |
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Clinton did what he needed to do |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 06:43 PM |
#80 |
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he was never a Dove |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 07:21 PM |
#92 |
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He couldn't get the popular support. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:30 PM |
#99 |
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He didn't need popular support |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 07:37 PM |
#108 |
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Disagree |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:52 PM |
#120 |
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you might be right |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 08:00 PM |
#127 |
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Clinton was willing 2 start the war vs Iraq & tried 2 manuafacture consent |
Tinoire |
Nov-23-03 11:23 PM |
#214 |
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I won't flame you |
cheryl_d |
Nov-23-03 06:23 PM |
#73 |
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Don't blame Nader. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:31 PM |
#102 |
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You're both missing the point. Bush STOLE the election. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-03 08:09 PM |
#133 |
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Yes, I know BushCo stole it |
cheryl_d |
Nov-23-03 08:35 PM |
#155 |
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I don't blame you. |
CWebster |
Nov-23-03 06:31 PM |
#74 |
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Mr. Bush thanks you for your vote! |
Padraig18 |
Nov-23-03 06:34 PM |
#76 |
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Yeah, whatever. |
RetroLounge |
Nov-23-03 06:36 PM |
#77 |
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Yeah but |
HerbsDSV@msn.com |
Nov-23-03 06:38 PM |
#78 |
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Always vote your conscience. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-03 06:41 PM |
#79 |
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Vote your conscience in the Dem primary |
cheryl_d |
Nov-23-03 08:40 PM |
#160 |
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Shouldn't this post be at www.socialistunderground.com? |
Padraig18 |
Nov-23-03 06:44 PM |
#81 |
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Politics is religion to you? |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 07:31 PM |
#101 |
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Clever! |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:34 PM |
#106 |
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Idiotic analysis |
BeachBuckeye |
Nov-23-03 06:46 PM |
#82 |
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that's not what he said. |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 06:59 PM |
#84 |
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He might have well have said it! |
Padraig18 |
Nov-23-03 07:15 PM |
#89 |
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your comment is not accurate |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 07:26 PM |
#96 |
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Spin it how you like. |
Padraig18 |
Nov-23-03 07:38 PM |
#110 |
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You can lead a horse to water... |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 07:52 PM |
#119 |
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edited subject |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 07:34 PM |
#105 |
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Find those words. |
Padraig18 |
Nov-23-03 07:45 PM |
#112 |
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My Lord... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:36 PM |
#107 |
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You sir |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 10:26 PM |
#199 |
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I'm a pragmatist, but you won't get any flames from me durutti |
mitchum |
Nov-23-03 06:56 PM |
#83 |
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Here's an alternative for you |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-23-03 07:02 PM |
#85 |
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You Misunderstand |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:40 PM |
#111 |
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Then the Crmes of the repukes will be on your head as well |
WoodrowFan |
Nov-23-03 07:02 PM |
#86 |
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EXCELLENT post! |
ikojo |
Nov-23-03 07:09 PM |
#88 |
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Oh yipeee yaah! Rah rah rah! |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-23-03 10:37 PM |
#204 |
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Bizarre, I'm endorsing Roy Moore of the Constitutional Party then |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 07:18 PM |
#90 |
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Another Strawman |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:47 PM |
#114 |
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That is ridiculous |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 08:12 PM |
#134 |
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He's speaking out against it now... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:36 PM |
#157 |
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God you're so blind |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 10:40 PM |
#206 |
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You must know Al really well |
BeachBuckeye |
Nov-23-03 08:32 PM |
#154 |
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You must know him even better. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:45 PM |
#164 |
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Really now? |
BeachBuckeye |
Nov-23-03 09:08 PM |
#173 |
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With all due respect, that argument makes no sense. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-03 08:14 PM |
#136 |
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I agree with much of what |
dusty64 |
Nov-23-03 07:18 PM |
#91 |
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The blood will be on your hands |
rhino91063 |
Nov-23-03 07:24 PM |
#95 |
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Will It? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:55 PM |
#122 |
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Are you a fortuneteller? What if what would not have happened? |
w4rma |
Nov-23-03 10:01 PM |
#192 |
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That was very good |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 07:29 PM |
#98 |
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You're beautiful!!!!!!!!!! |
QC |
Nov-23-03 07:31 PM |
#100 |
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is their a socialist underground? |
pasadenaboy |
Nov-23-03 07:32 PM |
#103 |
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No |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:56 PM |
#124 |
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What state are you located in? |
cat_girl25 |
Nov-23-03 07:33 PM |
#104 |
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Pennsylvania n/t |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 07:57 PM |
#125 |
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Is a swing state... |
Mattforclark |
Nov-23-03 08:21 PM |
#143 |
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Well, he says he's voting for the Socialist Candidate |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 08:32 PM |
#153 |
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This was Nader's argument in 2004, and is patently false.... |
familydoctor |
Nov-23-03 07:46 PM |
#113 |
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How? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:00 PM |
#126 |
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On the finer points maybe you are different from Nader.... |
familydoctor |
Nov-23-03 08:31 PM |
#152 |
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Why did you even post this? |
rucky |
Nov-23-03 07:48 PM |
#115 |
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For some people, politics is moral theater. |
QC |
Nov-23-03 07:54 PM |
#121 |
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You're Missing the Point |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:02 PM |
#129 |
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I see, you're hedging your bets |
rucky |
Nov-23-03 08:15 PM |
#137 |
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For the last time... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 09:02 PM |
#169 |
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In the real world, where the rest of us live, |
QC |
Nov-23-03 08:21 PM |
#142 |
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I think this poster wants attention. |
cat_girl25 |
Nov-23-03 08:07 PM |
#132 |
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that's the response I expect |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 08:20 PM |
#140 |
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Let's talk about 3rd Parties in 2005 |
rucky |
Nov-23-03 08:38 PM |
#159 |
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Yes I am partisan and damn proud of it! |
cat_girl25 |
Nov-23-03 09:11 PM |
#177 |
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Yes, I want attention. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:20 PM |
#141 |
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I agree with you 110%. Don't let the fools on this board pressure |
RichM |
Nov-23-03 07:50 PM |
#117 |
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What is this "fools" shit? You talking about me? n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-23-03 08:04 PM |
#130 |
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This is the only post in this thread that is MORE full of shit than |
BeachBuckeye |
Nov-23-03 09:23 PM |
#183 |
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Oh, please |
vdeputy |
Nov-23-03 07:50 PM |
#118 |
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Worse, yes... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:14 PM |
#135 |
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Damn, he knows Clinton just as well as he knows Al Gore! |
BeachBuckeye |
Nov-23-03 09:27 PM |
#184 |
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Why do you belive otherwise? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 10:02 PM |
#193 |
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Hey, I liked a lot of things Clinton did, but... |
Zhade |
Nov-23-03 08:25 PM |
#146 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-23-03 07:56 PM |
#123 |
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I Welcome Critical Examination |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:18 PM |
#139 |
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you do like hell, and a person IS his ideas. |
kodi |
Nov-23-03 08:38 PM |
#158 |
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Almost funny. |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 08:57 PM |
#167 |
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"I'm interested in what's effective." & the Socialist Party is effective? |
kodi |
Nov-24-03 12:49 AM |
#231 |
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If You Believe That Gore Would've Pre-Emptively Attack Iraq |
Yavin4 |
Nov-23-03 09:09 PM |
#175 |
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I will .... but |
number6 |
Nov-23-03 08:26 PM |
#147 |
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Well, the good news is that we won't have to read this garbage soon |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 08:36 PM |
#156 |
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I despise that some of you out there want to silence this person! |
SkeptyCal |
Nov-23-03 09:06 PM |
#171 |
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Bush-Cheney 2004 |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 10:20 PM |
#197 |
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Is this an organizing activity? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 09:07 PM |
#172 |
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You will have no standing to criticize * if your vote swings the election |
bluestateguy |
Nov-23-03 08:41 PM |
#161 |
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This is an absurd comment |
BeachBuckeye |
Nov-23-03 08:42 PM |
#163 |
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Gore is a leftist? |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 09:08 PM |
#174 |
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What's a leftist? |
SahaleArm |
Nov-23-03 09:11 PM |
#178 |
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Then let me invite you to the Lounge.... |
BiggJawn |
Nov-23-03 09:15 PM |
#179 |
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*IF* |
dolo amber |
Nov-23-03 09:16 PM |
#180 |
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I Hate It When People Attend A Noam Chomsky Lecture |
Yavin4 |
Nov-23-03 09:19 PM |
#181 |
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LOL |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 09:51 PM |
#189 |
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Chomsky has taken the Anyone But Bush approach? |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 10:12 PM |
#194 |
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Yup, he doesn't vote |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 10:21 PM |
#198 |
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he knows more about foreign policy than elected Democrats |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 10:31 PM |
#200 |
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Incorrect |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 10:36 PM |
#202 |
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I'd really love a link |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 11:08 PM |
#212 |
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Here you go Ter |
Tinoire |
Nov-24-03 12:21 AM |
#225 |
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Conclusion |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 09:38 PM |
#186 |
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"crucial to a democratic society" ? |
janx |
Nov-23-03 09:59 PM |
#191 |
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go throw rocks at banks or something? |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 10:18 PM |
#195 |
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Geez... |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 10:19 PM |
#196 |
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the rocks at banks thing was a lame attempt... |
Terwilliger |
Nov-23-03 10:33 PM |
#201 |
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I agree with your general point. |
FDRrocks |
Nov-23-03 10:36 PM |
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Answer this my fine weather friend, for your 60'th reply in your thread |
sgr2 |
Nov-23-03 10:38 PM |
#205 |
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hey, Lieberman's |
GreenArrow |
Nov-23-03 10:46 PM |
#207 |
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Rebuttal |
durutti |
Nov-23-03 10:48 PM |
#208 |
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Nader is... |
saoirse |
Nov-23-03 11:17 PM |
#213 |
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Impressive vocab you got there. |
SkeptyCal |
Nov-23-03 11:55 PM |
#220 |
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A vote for anyone other than the Democratic nominee |
saoirse |
Nov-23-03 11:01 PM |
#210 |
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A vote for anyone other than the Democratic nominee |
WillyBrandt |
Nov-23-03 11:04 PM |
#211 |
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Its a free country |
mmonk |
Nov-23-03 11:28 PM |
#215 |
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<in david spade voice>buuh- bye! |
texas is the reason |
Nov-23-03 11:31 PM |
#216 |
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Go read more pop psych books... |
SkeptyCal |
Nov-23-03 11:57 PM |
#222 |
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how can you say that this was... |
texas is the reason |
Nov-24-03 12:36 AM |
#227 |
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wow |
ZombyWoof |
Nov-24-03 12:06 AM |
#224 |
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let me know when Walt Brown gets on some ballots! |
burr |
Nov-23-03 11:40 PM |
#219 |
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No flames here- just sadness and not at you |
Tinoire |
Nov-24-03 12:02 AM |
#223 |
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excellent post, durutti |
Aidoneus |
Nov-24-03 12:32 AM |
#226 |
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Ffffsssstt! |
KelleyKramer |
Nov-24-03 12:47 AM |
#229 |
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If you buy that argument that there is no difference |
Cleita |
Nov-24-03 12:51 AM |
#232 |