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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. It IS a good book.
This is interesting to me. I'm an admitted SP-USA member (And Registered Democrat out of necessity) who will most likely not vote SP-USA this time (Nor have I ever, I've only been involved for a little over a year. Bush I (I was naive)/Clinton/Clinton/Gore) around, I simply fear a second Bush term, it scares the shit out of me.

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  -Why I Won't Vote Democratic in 2004 durutti  Nov-23-03 04:18 PM   #0 
  - No, no flame but . . .  dodger501   Nov-23-03 04:20 PM   #1 
  - Well then welcome to 1984, 20 years later  joeybee12   Nov-23-03 04:20 PM   #2 
  - How do you figure?  durutti   Nov-23-03 04:25 PM   #4 
     - For one thing, I believe if Al Gore had been inaugurated (he was elected,  joeybee12   Nov-23-03 04:27 PM   #7 
     - Tell this to my nephew  The Zanti Regent   Nov-23-03 05:23 PM   #45 
        - No...  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:27 PM   #47 
        - Tell yourself that if you like " The ruling class of this country sent hi"  Clark Can WIN   Nov-23-03 09:02 PM   #170 
           - What does he care?  bluestateguy   Nov-23-03 09:10 PM   #176 
              - What a joke.  durutti   Nov-23-03 09:42 PM   #187 
        - Thank You  bluestateguy   Nov-23-03 08:58 PM   #168 
  - it's called baby steps...  toddzilla   Nov-23-03 04:20 PM   #3 
  - No, it's called going backwards, just not quite as fast  starroute   Nov-23-03 05:06 PM   #38 
  - by your own words, you should be a Democrat and vote for Kucinich  WhoCountsTheVotes   Nov-23-03 04:25 PM   #5 
  - A Few Qualifications  durutti   Nov-23-03 04:42 PM   #15 
     - Kucinich is no fraud...  wheresthemind   Nov-23-03 04:52 PM   #23 
     - your class analysis is seriously out of date  WhoCountsTheVotes   Nov-23-03 05:03 PM   #33 
        - Oh, geez...  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:22 PM   #44 
        - Zzzzzaaamp! Thank you for playing, your answer is incorrect  Clark Can WIN   Nov-23-03 09:22 PM   #182 
           - Obviously  durutti   Nov-23-03 09:58 PM   #190 
              - Obviously  Clark Can WIN   Nov-24-03 12:41 AM   #228 
        - actually, his analysis is right on  camero   Nov-23-03 08:28 PM   #149 
           - Oh Jesus Christ.  theemu   Nov-23-03 09:37 PM   #185 
              - If you want to deny the truth, go right ahead.  camero   Nov-23-03 11:55 PM   #221 
  - I will share your tender concerns and reasoned analysis  WillyBrandt   Nov-23-03 04:26 PM   #6 
  - May I add to your astute analysis?  NNN0LHI   Nov-23-03 04:51 PM   #20 
  - Really?  durutti   Nov-23-03 04:51 PM   #22 
  - Logic-chopping the blood away  WillyBrandt   Nov-23-03 05:00 PM   #30 
  - I'm Draft Age  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:14 PM   #42 
     - I'm draft age too, buddy  WillyBrandt   Nov-23-03 08:21 PM   #144 
        - If a politician says it, it must be true!  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:26 PM   #148 
           - If a politician says it, it must be false  WillyBrandt   Nov-23-03 08:30 PM   #151 
              - Kosovo  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:41 PM   #162 
                 - We're done  WillyBrandt   Nov-23-03 08:51 PM   #165 
  - "Not immediately but ultimately"  WillyBrandt   Nov-23-03 05:06 PM   #37 
  - wrong  alarimer   Nov-23-03 05:56 PM   #62 
     - So instead...  durutti   Nov-23-03 06:08 PM   #70 
  - What candidate has said that anything would be different under them?  dawgman   Nov-23-03 05:20 PM   #43 
  - Yea he should vote for one of the Dems...  RapidCreek   Nov-23-03 11:39 PM   #218 
  - Lesser of two evils  slackdude   Nov-23-03 04:31 PM   #8 
  - I agree with you Slack......Get rid of the idiot in thief and thugs  buff2   Nov-23-03 04:50 PM   #19 
  - Worse, yes...  durutti   Nov-23-03 04:53 PM   #25 
     - Think about it  slackdude   Nov-23-03 04:57 PM   #27 
        - Well...  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:30 PM   #49 
           - True, but...  slackdude   Nov-23-03 05:53 PM   #58 
              - So?  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:55 PM   #61 
                 - So what's your solution?  slackdude   Nov-23-03 08:00 PM   #128 
                    - Exactly!  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:30 PM   #150 
                       - I can dig it  slackdude   Nov-23-03 08:53 PM   #166 
  - My Two Cents  JailBush   Nov-23-03 04:31 PM   #9 
  - It doesn't have all the answers.  durutti   Nov-23-03 04:55 PM   #26 
  - Just finished 'People's History of the United States,' eh?  WilliamPitt   Nov-23-03 04:34 PM   #10 
  - It IS a good book.  JanMichael   Nov-23-03 04:39 PM   #13 
  - Then  wryter2000   Nov-23-03 04:35 PM   #11 
  - Because  durutti   Nov-23-03 04:58 PM   #28 
  - Nader said there was no difference  childslibrarian   Nov-23-03 04:37 PM   #12 
  - Who helped the Repubs?  mad_as_hell   Nov-23-03 04:45 PM   #16 
  - Yes, neither party is perfect  childslibrarian   Nov-23-03 05:05 PM   #35 
  - I didn't say there's no difference.  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:01 PM   #32 
     - I disagree wirh your analysis  childslibrarian   Nov-23-03 05:08 PM   #39 
        - I Disagree  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:33 PM   #50 
        - I disagree when you say the US  ikojo   Nov-23-03 07:21 PM   #93 
  - You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater.  Selwynn   Nov-23-03 04:41 PM   #14 
  - Well...  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:35 PM   #51 
     - I disagree that the alternatives are worse...  Selwynn   Nov-23-03 10:50 PM   #209 
  - Go ahead. It isn't like it matters if bush wins again. The world will not  roguevalley   Nov-23-03 04:48 PM   #17 
  - You bring up many points that are valid concerns.  Tatiana   Nov-23-03 04:49 PM   #18 
  - Well, exercise your right to vote  eileen_d   Nov-23-03 04:51 PM   #21 
  - I Completely Understand Your Frustration, But.....  zinsky   Nov-23-03 04:52 PM   # 
  - this place is called DU  AmericanDem   Nov-23-03 04:52 PM   #24 
  - I am a democrat.  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:41 PM   #53 
  - How is advocating Walt Brown for president...  Padraig18   Nov-23-03 07:05 PM   #87 
     - Waaaah!  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:27 PM   #97 
        - How ridiculous is that??? MORE RIDICULOUS!  sgr2   Nov-23-03 08:15 PM   #138 
           - How is Nader responsible?  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:23 PM   #145 
  - yea why are you?  sujan   Nov-23-03 06:20 PM   #72 
  - What will you do when santorum runs for re-election??  mlawson   Nov-23-03 04:58 PM   #29 
  - Your analysis is correct but action is all wrong  mad_as_hell   Nov-23-03 05:01 PM   #31 
  - Here is a good quote from Kushner for you to mull over, I believe he  demgrrrll   Nov-23-03 05:05 PM   #34 
     - Thanks for that  childslibrarian   Nov-23-03 05:10 PM   #40 
  - As I've said before:  HypnoToad   Nov-23-03 05:06 PM   #36 
  - Hope it feels good....  dobak   Nov-23-03 05:14 PM   #41 
  - Again  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:47 PM   #55 
  - Disseminate your ideas some other way..  dobak   Nov-23-03 11:38 PM   #217 
  - The Whigs  pop goes the weasel   Nov-23-03 09:49 PM   #188 
  - Then you are voting for Bush, it is that simple, in this system.  Prodemsouth   Nov-23-03 05:26 PM   #46 
  - hit the nail on the head  cheryl27   Nov-23-03 05:39 PM   #52 
  - "Democratic "liberals" became avid Cold Warriors"  Q   Nov-23-03 05:29 PM   #48 
  - What?!  durutti   Nov-23-03 05:45 PM   #54 
  - funny too, the Socialists USA  OKNancy   Nov-23-03 05:55 PM   #60 
  - Yes and No  durutti   Nov-23-03 06:01 PM   #65 
  - EXACTLY  sgr2   Nov-23-03 07:23 PM   #94 
     - I know quite well what I'm talking about.  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:49 PM   #116 
        - You may have book "knowledge" on the subjects  Clark Can WIN   Nov-24-03 12:49 AM   #230 
  - Are you denying it?  slackdude   Nov-23-03 06:04 PM   #69 
  - if you truly believe that there are only "small" differences  spooky3   Nov-23-03 05:49 PM   #56 
  - It's been done.  durutti   Nov-23-03 06:03 PM   #67 
  - Everyone must unite.  Zorra   Nov-23-03 05:49 PM   #57 
  - Many persons insist on almost 100% agreement  mlawson   Nov-23-03 05:57 PM   #63 
  - defeat shrub  cheryl l   Nov-23-03 07:38 PM   #109 
     - Welcome to DU, cheryl!  Zhade   Nov-23-03 08:06 PM   #131 
  - Well, that's brilliant! Thanks for endorsing Bush!  leesa   Nov-23-03 05:54 PM   #59 
  - Vote Republican then. Don't just go half way by voting for yourself. (n/t)  w4rma   Nov-23-03 05:59 PM   #64 
  - The American Voter  solinvictus   Nov-23-03 06:02 PM   #66 
  - That's just..........................silly  Clark Can WIN   Nov-24-03 12:55 AM   #233 
  - If Bush Wins In 2004...  Yavin4   Nov-23-03 06:04 PM   #68 
  - the "neocons"  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 06:19 PM   #71 
     - Then Explain Why Clinton Didn't Overthrow Saddam  Yavin4   Nov-23-03 06:31 PM   #75 
        - Clinton did what he needed to do  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 06:43 PM   #80 
        - he was never a Dove  sgr2   Nov-23-03 07:21 PM   #92 
        - He couldn't get the popular support.  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:30 PM   #99 
        - He didn't need popular support  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 07:37 PM   #108 
           - Disagree  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:52 PM   #120 
              - you might be right  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 08:00 PM   #127 
        - Clinton was willing 2 start the war vs Iraq & tried 2 manuafacture consent  Tinoire   Nov-23-03 11:23 PM   #214 
  - I won't flame you  cheryl_d   Nov-23-03 06:23 PM   #73 
  - Don't blame Nader.  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:31 PM   #102 
     - You're both missing the point. Bush STOLE the election.  Zhade   Nov-23-03 08:09 PM   #133 
        - Yes, I know BushCo stole it  cheryl_d   Nov-23-03 08:35 PM   #155 
  - I don't blame you.  CWebster   Nov-23-03 06:31 PM   #74 
  - Mr. Bush thanks you for your vote!  Padraig18   Nov-23-03 06:34 PM   #76 
  - Yeah, whatever.  RetroLounge   Nov-23-03 06:36 PM   #77 
  - Yeah but  HerbsDSV@msn.com   Nov-23-03 06:38 PM   #78 
  - Always vote your conscience.  Zhade   Nov-23-03 06:41 PM   #79 
  - Vote your conscience in the Dem primary  cheryl_d   Nov-23-03 08:40 PM   #160 
  - Shouldn't this post be at www.socialistunderground.com?  Padraig18   Nov-23-03 06:44 PM   #81 
  - Politics is religion to you?  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 07:31 PM   #101 
  - Clever!  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:34 PM   #106 
  - Idiotic analysis  BeachBuckeye   Nov-23-03 06:46 PM   #82 
  - that's not what he said.  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 06:59 PM   #84 
  - He might have well have said it!  Padraig18   Nov-23-03 07:15 PM   #89 
     - your comment is not accurate  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 07:26 PM   #96 
     - Spin it how you like.  Padraig18   Nov-23-03 07:38 PM   #110 
        - You can lead a horse to water...  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 07:52 PM   #119 
     - edited subject  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 07:34 PM   #105 
        - Find those words.  Padraig18   Nov-23-03 07:45 PM   #112 
  - My Lord...  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:36 PM   #107 
  - You sir  durutti   Nov-23-03 10:26 PM   #199 
  - I'm a pragmatist, but you won't get any flames from me durutti  mitchum   Nov-23-03 06:56 PM   #83 
  - Here's an alternative for you  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-23-03 07:02 PM   #85 
  - You Misunderstand  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:40 PM   #111 
  - Then the Crmes of the repukes will be on your head as well  WoodrowFan   Nov-23-03 07:02 PM   #86 
  - EXCELLENT post!  ikojo   Nov-23-03 07:09 PM   #88 
  - Oh yipeee yaah! Rah rah rah!  Clark Can WIN   Nov-23-03 10:37 PM   #204 
  - Bizarre, I'm endorsing Roy Moore of the Constitutional Party then  sgr2   Nov-23-03 07:18 PM   #90 
  - Another Strawman  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:47 PM   #114 
  - That is ridiculous  sgr2   Nov-23-03 08:12 PM   #134 
  - He's speaking out against it now...  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:36 PM   #157 
     - God you're so blind  sgr2   Nov-23-03 10:40 PM   #206 
  - You must know Al really well  BeachBuckeye   Nov-23-03 08:32 PM   #154 
     - You must know him even better.  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:45 PM   #164 
        - Really now?  BeachBuckeye   Nov-23-03 09:08 PM   #173 
  - With all due respect, that argument makes no sense.  Zhade   Nov-23-03 08:14 PM   #136 
  - I agree with much of what  dusty64   Nov-23-03 07:18 PM   #91 
  - The blood will be on your hands  rhino91063   Nov-23-03 07:24 PM   #95 
  - Will It?  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:55 PM   #122 
     - Are you a fortuneteller? What if what would not have happened?  w4rma   Nov-23-03 10:01 PM   #192 
  - That was very good  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 07:29 PM   #98 
  - You're beautiful!!!!!!!!!!  QC   Nov-23-03 07:31 PM   #100 
  - is their a socialist underground?  pasadenaboy   Nov-23-03 07:32 PM   #103 
  - No  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:56 PM   #124 
  - What state are you located in?  cat_girl25   Nov-23-03 07:33 PM   #104 
  - Pennsylvania n/t  durutti   Nov-23-03 07:57 PM   #125 
     - Is a swing state...  Mattforclark   Nov-23-03 08:21 PM   #143 
        - Well, he says he's voting for the Socialist Candidate  sgr2   Nov-23-03 08:32 PM   #153 
  - This was Nader's argument in 2004, and is patently false....  familydoctor   Nov-23-03 07:46 PM   #113 
  - How?  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:00 PM   #126 
     - On the finer points maybe you are different from Nader....  familydoctor   Nov-23-03 08:31 PM   #152 
  - Why did you even post this?  rucky   Nov-23-03 07:48 PM   #115 
  - For some people, politics is moral theater.  QC   Nov-23-03 07:54 PM   #121 
  - You're Missing the Point  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:02 PM   #129 
     - I see, you're hedging your bets  rucky   Nov-23-03 08:15 PM   #137 
     - For the last time...  durutti   Nov-23-03 09:02 PM   #169 
     - In the real world, where the rest of us live,  QC   Nov-23-03 08:21 PM   #142 
  - I think this poster wants attention.  cat_girl25   Nov-23-03 08:07 PM   #132 
     - that's the response I expect  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 08:20 PM   #140 
     - Let's talk about 3rd Parties in 2005  rucky   Nov-23-03 08:38 PM   #159 
     - Yes I am partisan and damn proud of it!  cat_girl25   Nov-23-03 09:11 PM   #177 
     - Yes, I want attention.  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:20 PM   #141 
  - I agree with you 110%. Don't let the fools on this board pressure  RichM   Nov-23-03 07:50 PM   #117 
  - What is this "fools" shit? You talking about me? n/t  NNN0LHI   Nov-23-03 08:04 PM   #130 
  - This is the only post in this thread that is MORE full of shit than  BeachBuckeye   Nov-23-03 09:23 PM   #183 
  - Oh, please  vdeputy   Nov-23-03 07:50 PM   #118 
  - Worse, yes...  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:14 PM   #135 
  - Damn, he knows Clinton just as well as he knows Al Gore!  BeachBuckeye   Nov-23-03 09:27 PM   #184 
     - Why do you belive otherwise?  durutti   Nov-23-03 10:02 PM   #193 
  - Hey, I liked a lot of things Clinton did, but...  Zhade   Nov-23-03 08:25 PM   #146 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-03 07:56 PM   #123 
  - I Welcome Critical Examination  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:18 PM   #139 
     - you do like hell, and a person IS his ideas.  kodi   Nov-23-03 08:38 PM   #158 
     - Almost funny.  durutti   Nov-23-03 08:57 PM   #167 
        - "I'm interested in what's effective." & the Socialist Party is effective?  kodi   Nov-24-03 12:49 AM   #231 
     - If You Believe That Gore Would've Pre-Emptively Attack Iraq  Yavin4   Nov-23-03 09:09 PM   #175 
  - I will .... but  number6   Nov-23-03 08:26 PM   #147 
  - Well, the good news is that we won't have to read this garbage soon  sgr2   Nov-23-03 08:36 PM   #156 
  - I despise that some of you out there want to silence this person!  SkeptyCal   Nov-23-03 09:06 PM   #171 
  - Bush-Cheney 2004  sgr2   Nov-23-03 10:20 PM   #197 
  - Is this an organizing activity?  durutti   Nov-23-03 09:07 PM   #172 
  - You will have no standing to criticize * if your vote swings the election  bluestateguy   Nov-23-03 08:41 PM   #161 
  - This is an absurd comment  BeachBuckeye   Nov-23-03 08:42 PM   #163 
  - Gore is a leftist?  durutti   Nov-23-03 09:08 PM   #174 
     - What's a leftist?  SahaleArm   Nov-23-03 09:11 PM   #178 
  - Then let me invite you to the Lounge....  BiggJawn   Nov-23-03 09:15 PM   #179 
  - *IF*  dolo amber   Nov-23-03 09:16 PM   #180 
  - I Hate It When People Attend A Noam Chomsky Lecture  Yavin4   Nov-23-03 09:19 PM   #181 
  - LOL  durutti   Nov-23-03 09:51 PM   #189 
     - Chomsky has taken the Anyone But Bush approach?  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 10:12 PM   #194 
        - Yup, he doesn't vote  sgr2   Nov-23-03 10:21 PM   #198 
        - he knows more about foreign policy than elected Democrats  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 10:31 PM   #200 
        - Incorrect  durutti   Nov-23-03 10:36 PM   #202 
           - I'd really love a link  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 11:08 PM   #212 
              - Here you go Ter  Tinoire   Nov-24-03 12:21 AM   #225 
  - Conclusion  durutti   Nov-23-03 09:38 PM   #186 
  - "crucial to a democratic society" ?  janx   Nov-23-03 09:59 PM   #191 
  - go throw rocks at banks or something?  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 10:18 PM   #195 
  - Geez...  durutti   Nov-23-03 10:19 PM   #196 
     - the rocks at banks thing was a lame attempt...  Terwilliger   Nov-23-03 10:33 PM   #201 
     - I agree with your general point.  FDRrocks   Nov-23-03 10:36 PM   #203 
  - Answer this my fine weather friend, for your 60'th reply in your thread  sgr2   Nov-23-03 10:38 PM   #205 
     - hey, Lieberman's  GreenArrow   Nov-23-03 10:46 PM   #207 
     - Rebuttal  durutti   Nov-23-03 10:48 PM   #208 
     - Nader is...  saoirse   Nov-23-03 11:17 PM   #213 
        - Impressive vocab you got there.  SkeptyCal   Nov-23-03 11:55 PM   #220 
  - A vote for anyone other than the Democratic nominee  saoirse   Nov-23-03 11:01 PM   #210 
  - A vote for anyone other than the Democratic nominee  WillyBrandt   Nov-23-03 11:04 PM   #211 
  - Its a free country  mmonk   Nov-23-03 11:28 PM   #215 
  - <in david spade voice>buuh- bye!  texas is the reason   Nov-23-03 11:31 PM   #216 
  - Go read more pop psych books...  SkeptyCal   Nov-23-03 11:57 PM   #222 
  - how can you say that this was...  texas is the reason   Nov-24-03 12:36 AM   #227 
  - wow  ZombyWoof   Nov-24-03 12:06 AM   #224 
  - let me know when Walt Brown gets on some ballots!  burr   Nov-23-03 11:40 PM   #219 
  - No flames here- just sadness and not at you  Tinoire   Nov-24-03 12:02 AM   #223 
  - excellent post, durutti  Aidoneus   Nov-24-03 12:32 AM   #226 
  - Ffffsssstt!  KelleyKramer   Nov-24-03 12:47 AM   #229 
  - If you buy that argument that there is no difference  Cleita   Nov-24-03 12:51 AM   #232 
 

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