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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #149
150. and right back at ya:
Have you read the latest on the acoustic evidence? Check this out:
http://www.forensic-science-society.org.uk/Thomas.pdf Forensic scientists rebut the assertion that the signature of a shot from the knoll could have, by happenstance, turn up on the dictabelt.

The "two brains" has nothing to do with recollection. It has to do with gross discrepencies in the weight and measurement recorded of the specimens. The AARB would not have said there was a 90-95% chance that there were two brains and that the evidence had been tampered with otherwise.

Afraid I don't have more time to spend on this today, but click around here for some info on Oswald and Mexico City:
http://history-matters.com/frameup.htm
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  -P Jennings to prove there was no conspiracy in JFK murder bobbieinok  Nov-20-03 03:39 PM   #0 
  - what a joke  el_gato   Nov-20-03 03:47 PM   #1 
  - no...but there have been several shows recently proving that  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 03:47 PM   #2 
  - Well...just for argument's sake...  BullGooseLoony   Nov-20-03 04:01 PM   #7 
     - and that is what changed my mind...luck happens.  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 04:14 PM   #10 
        - Booth? How come the Government hung several people as...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-20-03 06:25 PM   #27 
        - Ahem  dflprincess   Nov-20-03 09:30 PM   #63 
        - Average shot?  jsw_81   Nov-21-03 01:32 AM   #104 
        - possibly  directinfection   Nov-21-03 03:36 PM   #156 
           - Clearly it DID come from behind him.  PAMod   Nov-21-03 05:41 PM   #162 
              - Nope. I disagree. Look at the autopsy photos and read what the  Solomon   Nov-22-03 09:54 AM   #168 
                 - The autopsy photos show a small hole in the upper back of his head...  PAMod   Nov-22-03 11:07 AM   #171 
                    - Listen to the doctors who saw his head. They were just as shocked  Solomon   Nov-22-03 02:46 PM   #178 
                       - I shouldn't have made it sound like you "want" a conspiracy...  PAMod   Nov-24-03 10:07 AM   #189 
                       - What about the Zapruder film?  Nederland   Nov-24-03 10:43 AM   #190 
        - About Booth.  Ani Yun Wiya   Nov-21-03 03:27 AM   #110 
  - Jennings is Canadian. Canadians are commies,  ohiosmith   Nov-20-03 03:51 PM   #3 
  - You are kidding  bicentennial_baby   Nov-20-03 04:00 PM   #6 
     - The Soviets played hockey.  ohiosmith   Nov-20-03 04:16 PM   # 
        - Also, Wayne Gretzky is a hockey player.  BullGooseLoony   Nov-20-03 11:21 PM   #88 
        - Oh my God...  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:30 PM   #91 
           - ha!  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 01:13 AM   #101 
              - The Avs and Jets!!  MrPrax   Nov-21-03 12:56 PM   #139 
  - Most likely tows the Gerald Posner/John McAdams line  Bombtrack   Nov-20-03 03:53 PM   #4 
  - They have  NicoleM   Nov-20-03 03:59 PM   #5 
  - Computer simulations do whatever they are programmed to do  AntiCoup2k   Nov-20-03 08:33 PM   #50 
     - you can prove it wrong  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 12:03 AM   #98 
  - Glad someone's finally going to do it  NoPasaran   Nov-20-03 04:06 PM   #8 
  - So you believe in the magic bullet eh?  el_gato   Nov-20-03 04:09 PM   #9 
     - This show on court TV used computer simulations to show that  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 04:16 PM   #11 
     - Yep. In truth, they were lined up so the bullet could go straight through  KFC   Nov-20-03 04:26 PM   #12 
        - And the bullet comes out clean on the other side?  MadHound   Nov-20-03 04:47 PM   #13 
           - OK...you want to play this game smart ass...  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 05:43 PM   #19 
           - And the medical evidence disproves the nonsense the Warren Commission...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-20-03 06:29 PM   #30 
           - The Warren Report is sloppy...the military and local doctors  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 06:37 PM   #32 
              - Read the actual medical reports...you might learn something...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-20-03 06:49 PM   #35 
                 - Key Word...Theory. Do you believe in the BIG BANG? how bout Evolution?  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 06:55 PM   #38 
                    - Wow!! I love how the defenders of the Warren Commission get all...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-20-03 07:06 PM   #43 
                       - Who's backed into a corner?  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:06 PM   #83 
           - SINGLE BULLET THEORY  Parche   Nov-20-03 06:36 PM   #31 
           - Hmmm  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 06:43 PM   #33 
           - How about based on the fact that the Warren Commission was never....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-20-03 06:59 PM   #39 
              - may I ask...  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:26 PM   #90 
           - actually  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:17 PM   #87 
           - You are a riot, truly, you are  MadHound   Nov-20-03 07:03 PM   #42 
           - For Christ's sake  jsw_81   Nov-21-03 01:44 AM   #106 
              - Oswald was thirty  Terwilliger   Nov-21-03 11:51 AM   #131 
                 - Oswald was 24  jsw_81   Nov-22-03 09:19 PM   #183 
           - Tin hat or not...  AbbieLives   Nov-21-03 11:45 AM   #127 
           - The bullet wasn't 'clean'  jsw_81   Nov-21-03 01:40 AM   #105 
           - Oh Lord, if its on TV it must be true!  MadHound   Nov-21-03 06:21 AM   #114 
           - Oh, and another point I failed to mention earlier  MadHound   Nov-21-03 08:03 AM   #123 
           - They addressed all those points on the show...  jab105   Nov-22-03 01:57 PM   #176 
     - Yeah, the 3 magic bullets theory is much better  William Seger   Nov-20-03 08:26 PM   #48 
        - BULLETS MADE OF ICE!!!  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 03:33 AM   #111 
           - Laugh all you want. The "ice bullet" was posited by Dr. James Hume...  Octafish   Nov-22-03 02:12 AM   #164 
              - Duh...  William Seger   Nov-22-03 05:02 AM   #165 
                 - Sorry. We can't all be geniuses like you.  Octafish   Nov-22-03 10:09 AM   #169 
                    - "I agree with what I know."  William Seger   Nov-22-03 11:32 AM   #173 
                       - Ice bullets were brought up the lead JFK autopsy physician.  Octafish   Nov-22-03 12:18 PM   #174 
                          - I think you mean Dr. Humes, not Hume...  William Seger   Nov-22-03 01:44 PM   #175 
                             - Thanks for the help, Seger. How 'bout some links?  Octafish   Nov-22-03 02:35 PM   #177 
                                - Ah HA!  William Seger   Nov-22-03 06:14 PM   #179 
                                   - So you take the word of J Edgar Hoover over the ER docs'?  Octafish   Nov-22-03 07:28 PM   #181 
                                      - and not just Crenshaw:  Minstrel Boy   Nov-22-03 07:50 PM   #182 
                                      - Baloney!  William Seger   Nov-23-03 04:12 PM   #187 
                                         - You're still wrong! McAdams is a BFEE lickspittle.  Octafish   Nov-23-03 08:09 PM   #188 
  - More than Dealy Plaza needs to be explained  ramblin_dave   Nov-20-03 04:53 PM   #14 
  - Should be interesting  Very Good Dem   Nov-20-03 05:12 PM   #15 
  - The question for me  bobbieinok   Nov-20-03 05:19 PM   #16 
  - Let's see . . .  Very Good Dem   Nov-20-03 05:36 PM   #18 
  - So it's not strange at all that all those policemen couldn't protect  bobbieinok   Nov-20-03 06:17 PM   #25 
  - no...look at all the press that was there.  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 06:28 PM   #29 
  - People forget  Very Good Dem   Nov-20-03 08:21 PM   #45 
     - Innocent?  aquart   Nov-20-03 09:12 PM   #55 
     - You totally misinterpreted my post  Very Good Dem   Nov-20-03 10:02 PM   #73 
        - Innocent? What about Lincoln, McKinley, Garfield assasinations  hlthe2b   Nov-21-03 11:48 AM   #128 
     - It's such a small place  Retrograde   Nov-21-03 06:51 PM   #163 
  - in my opinion  directinfection   Nov-21-03 03:48 PM   #157 
  - Don't forget the KGB!  jsw_81   Nov-21-03 01:47 AM   #107 
  - Jack Ruby was at that Police Station ALL the time.  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 05:48 PM   #21 
     - Jack Ruby met Oswald LONG before Nov 24, 1963  Terwilliger   Nov-22-03 10:14 AM   #170 
  - then can you please answer for me  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 06:27 PM   #28 
  - I don't have to...The onus is on you to prove how the fake Oswald  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 06:46 PM   #34 
     - For God's sakes, think:  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 06:55 PM   #37 
        - What does that prove?  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 07:00 PM   #40 
        - "conspiracy theorists" need nothing but a conspiracy,  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 07:19 PM   #44 
        - A single gunman is not plausible.  Octafish   Nov-20-03 09:27 PM   #62 
           - ballistics  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:22 PM   #89 
           - If you want to believe J Edgar Hoover, be my guest.  Octafish   Nov-20-03 11:33 PM   #92 
              - not at all correct  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:45 PM   #95 
                 - Wow! It's like having my own FBI Agent!  Octafish   Nov-21-03 01:19 PM   #141 
                    - Those photos prove my point  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 01:40 PM   #144 
                       - McAdams does make a good case with what he presents...  Octafish   Nov-21-03 03:32 PM   #155 
                       - bunched up theory?  directinfection   Nov-21-03 04:00 PM   #158 
                          - actually  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 04:09 PM   #159 
           - Photographic evidence shows JFK's jacket "bunched up" in the back...  PAMod   Nov-21-03 07:54 AM   #122 
              - You mean, like this?  Octafish   Nov-21-03 01:34 PM   #143 
                 - You know, that Warren Commission drawing is terrible, and...  PAMod   Nov-22-03 11:27 AM   #172 
        - Your turn  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:11 PM   #84 
           - nuh uh  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 11:36 PM   #94 
              - You may be right  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:53 PM   #97 
                 - What it means is that in conspiracies to commit murder,  Minstrel Boy   Nov-21-03 12:14 AM   #99 
                    - er...  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 01:10 AM   #100 
                    - er, etc  Minstrel Boy   Nov-21-03 06:50 AM   #117 
                       - Not asking that  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 02:01 PM   #145 
                          - please, don't talk about "flat earthers" who won't accept evidence  Minstrel Boy   Nov-21-03 02:08 PM   #147 
                             - I'll address all your points though- here  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 02:19 PM   #149 
                                - and right back at ya:  Minstrel Boy   Nov-21-03 02:34 PM   #150 
                                - Looked at the .pdf  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 02:45 PM   #152 
                                - Found this:  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 02:37 PM   #151 
                    - You are actually saying what I've been hinting at here for days  PAMod   Nov-21-03 08:09 AM   #124 
  - Hi Very Good Dem!!  newyawker99   Nov-20-03 07:03 PM   #41 
     - thanks n/t  Very Good Dem   Nov-20-03 08:21 PM   #46 
  - The history channel  Kira   Nov-20-03 05:20 PM   #17 
  - No way to prove it, when so much evidence points in the other direction  grannylib   Nov-20-03 05:44 PM   #20 
  - Anyone who believes the official story.  Sterling   Nov-20-03 05:50 PM   #22 
  - And anyone who believes a conspiracy theory because they  donotpassgo   Nov-20-03 06:50 PM   #36 
     - You don't know who you're talking to, or you'd edit that.  Octafish   Nov-20-03 09:51 PM   #68 
        - A remark that bears repeating, Octafish:  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 10:22 PM   #76 
  - The evidence against a conspiracy mostly  FlaGranny   Nov-20-03 06:07 PM   #23 
  - didn't some of this 'mysteriously' disappear?????  bobbieinok   Nov-20-03 06:15 PM   #24 
     - JFK, the man with two brains  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 06:20 PM   #26 
        - that would be suspicious, except...  Andyjunction   Nov-20-03 11:36 PM   #93 
           - "would be"? Two different brains isn't suspicious enough for you?  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 11:49 PM   #96 
           - well...  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 02:03 AM   #109 
              - well, no  Minstrel Boy   Nov-21-03 06:41 AM   #115 
                 - Haven't you seen it?  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 02:03 PM   #146 
                    - of course  Minstrel Boy   Nov-21-03 02:14 PM   #148 
           - Then can you (or anyone) tell me why...  Sapphocrat   Nov-22-03 07:00 AM   #166 
              - I think so  Andyjunction   Nov-22-03 06:23 PM   #180 
  - Geez why didn't he tell us years ago????  spanone   Nov-20-03 08:23 PM   #47 
  - I hope people are spending their time more wisely tonight by watching  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 08:29 PM   #49 
  - SO far I'm enjoying the ABC show  OKNancy   Nov-20-03 08:36 PM   #51 
  - PBS seems to be reciting Warren Commission fiction about Oswald...  TruthIsAll   Nov-20-03 09:02 PM   #52 
  - Yes, there's that, but they also featured  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 09:11 PM   #54 
  - Not only do they have a photo  FlaGranny   Nov-22-03 08:57 AM   #167 
  - Oh, PBS, please talk to Prof. Newman and Prof. Melanson!  Octafish   Nov-20-03 09:12 PM   #56 
  - The PBS doc is about 10 years old, I think,  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 09:18 PM   #59 
     - Thanks, MB! Now that you mention it...  Octafish   Nov-20-03 09:35 PM   #65 
        - Apparently Gus Russo is responsible in large part for both  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 10:49 PM   #79 
  - ABC is the same  BullGooseLoony   Nov-20-03 09:26 PM   #61 
     - Any talk of Ruby and organized crime?  Octafish   Nov-20-03 09:39 PM   #66 
        - They just went through and supposedly refuted  BullGooseLoony   Nov-20-03 09:51 PM   #69 
           - Wow. That's low.  Octafish   Nov-20-03 10:21 PM   #75 
              - So now we have  Very Good Dem   Nov-20-03 10:28 PM   #77 
                 - Not necessarily.  Octafish   Nov-20-03 10:53 PM   #80 
  - Uses a lot of material that we saw in JFK, too.  aquart   Nov-20-03 10:47 PM   #78 
  - Anybody ever see these pics?  Closer   Nov-20-03 09:05 PM   #53 
  - Yes. What about them?  Octafish   Nov-20-03 09:14 PM   #57 
  - Yes, and when you look at the picture taken of his right side,  Minstrel Boy   Nov-20-03 09:15 PM   #58 
  - I have only one thing  bushwentawol   Nov-20-03 09:23 PM   #60 
  - ABC is getting some very negative feedback on this  dflprincess   Nov-20-03 09:32 PM   #64 
  - OMG  dflprincess   Nov-20-03 09:49 PM   #67 
  - I do think that if they're going to try to prove that Oswald  BullGooseLoony   Nov-20-03 09:54 PM   #70 
     - of what?  Terwilliger   Nov-20-03 10:18 PM   #74 
     - Just a couple of examples-  BullGooseLoony   Nov-20-03 11:15 PM   #86 
     - Oddly, for me it was Tippet's murder.  aquart   Nov-20-03 10:59 PM   #81 
        - The two witnesses who supposedly were  FlaGranny   Nov-20-03 11:12 PM   #85 
  - They did a good job of explaining the official view.  Solomon   Nov-20-03 09:56 PM   #71 
  - Yeah...  BullGooseLoony   Nov-20-03 09:59 PM   #72 
  - Not only that, but the  FlaGranny   Nov-20-03 11:03 PM   #82 
  - How did Jennings explain away the windshield story?  0rganism   Nov-21-03 04:44 AM   #113 
  - I just saw the program  jsw_81   Nov-21-03 01:25 AM   #102 
  - I wouldn't say it proved beyond ANY doubt  BullGooseLoony   Nov-21-03 01:28 AM   #103 
  - Wow, not a big Oliver Stone fan I see  Rex   Nov-21-03 01:57 AM   #108 
  - JFK was a great movie  Andyjunction   Nov-21-03 03:38 AM   #112 
  - Heh heh.  PAMod   Nov-21-03 07:45 AM   #121 
  - I hope you don't always watch television so uncritically.  Minstrel Boy   Nov-21-03 06:44 AM   #116 
     - ain't it amazing?  tinanator   Nov-21-03 07:31 AM   #119 
     - TV is doubleplusgood!  AbbieLives   Nov-21-03 11:50 AM   #130 
     - Especially...  AG78   Nov-21-03 07:38 AM   #120 
  - better than all that  tinanator   Nov-21-03 07:03 AM   #118 
  - Well I missed the Jennings show but...  Llyr21   Nov-21-03 11:32 AM   #125 
  - Wrong, wrong, wrong  jsw_81   Nov-22-03 09:31 PM   #184 
  - Okay. Here's the things which bother me.  Solomon   Nov-21-03 11:43 AM   #126 
  - So, we have a two hour program by ABC  dflprincess   Nov-21-03 11:50 AM   #129 
  - speaking of The Men Who Killed Kennedy?  Terwilliger   Nov-21-03 11:55 AM   #133 
     - Here ya go...  Junkdrawer   Nov-21-03 12:17 PM   #136 
     - T I just bought it off the internet and just got it  Solomon   Nov-21-03 12:23 PM   #138 
        - Thanks  Terwilliger   Nov-21-03 01:26 PM   #142 
  - What happened to the first shot??  Terwilliger   Nov-21-03 11:54 AM   #132 
  - and  Llyr21   Nov-21-03 11:59 AM   #134 
  - The speculation is that the first shot struck a tree branch...  PAMod   Nov-21-03 12:11 PM   #135 
  - Still MORE problems  Llyr21   Nov-21-03 12:19 PM   #137 
  - Bravo, wonderfully put Terwilliger  Bushknew   Nov-21-03 03:03 PM   #154 
  - Jim DiEugenio already has a debunk site in progress for this: ABCLies.com  0rganism   Nov-21-03 12:59 PM   #140 
  - thanks, organism, and the other person linking abc lies  buycitgo   Nov-23-03 06:18 AM   #186 
  - i watched it  karabekian   Nov-21-03 02:57 PM   #153 
  - they always come out and scold people for not believing them on anniversar  BlackFrancis   Nov-21-03 04:18 PM   #160 
  - Okay. I Got it. I'm certain now. If those autopsy pictures are real  Solomon   Nov-21-03 04:22 PM   #161 
     - uhhhhhh.....Johnny Roselli. Sam Giancana?  buycitgo   Nov-23-03 06:08 AM   #185 
 

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