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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #55
57. War Protesters
We lost Vietnam in the field. We'd send out patrols, sometimes we'd encounter Viet Cong, sometimes we didn't. The war was "scored" like a sporting event - by body count. The Viet Cong didn't see the war on our terms, however. They figured that there was a fixed, maximum number of U.S. casualties.

Our method of scoring the war didn't induce the Viet Cong to surrender. Nixon tried some other approaches, including bombing the populated areas of North Vietnam. But even that didn't get them to quit.

We withdrew in disgrace in the early 70's. By 1980, however, the right wing had come up with a revision of history that put the blame on the antiwar movement. This revision has been repeated to the point that a lot of people believe it. However, the Vietnam War was lost in Vietnam, not in the United States.
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  -Spat on Vietnam Veterans? I think we were lied to on The Guy James Show. JanMichael  Nov-15-03 09:39 PM   #0 
  - There's a DUer here  Stevie D   Nov-15-03 09:43 PM   #1 
  - If it happened it was very rare.  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 09:44 PM   #2 
  - Must I add that he ended with "God bless you, God bless America and God...  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 09:55 PM   #3 
  - It may have happened, but it's grown into a myth  RationalRose   Nov-15-03 10:00 PM   #4 
  - When confronted with this statement I respond thusly  proud patriot   Nov-15-03 10:03 PM   #5 
  - I remember hearing about this a lot....  SaidFred   Nov-15-03 10:05 PM   #6 
  - Are you saying you believe that it happened regularly?  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 10:27 PM   #7 
  - Remember that this was the era of  bumbler   Nov-15-03 10:29 PM   #8 
  - Very, very, true. Cointelpro may have staged a couple but...  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 10:44 PM   #9 
  - this IS the era of cointelpro, terrorist squads and moonie news networks  tinanator   Nov-15-03 11:48 PM   #42 
  - Are you kidding? I got spat upon. I've posted that here before.  DemoTex   Nov-15-03 11:01 PM   #10 
  - Did you read the links? I also have said that anomolies may have happened.  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:05 PM   #11 
  - You know these threads just create more  Classical_Liberal   Nov-15-03 11:09 PM   #12 
  - Perhaps. But I don't like being LIED to!  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:13 PM   #14 
     - That is why I don't listen to talk radio or cspan  Classical_Liberal   Nov-15-03 11:16 PM   #16 
     - Who ever said that 2,700,000 were treated that way ?  Mountainman   Nov-15-03 11:17 PM   #17 
     - In using the term we, you are making the generalization  Classical_Liberal   Nov-15-03 11:23 PM   #21 
     - That must mean that none were.  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:25 PM   #24 
        - Didn't say that either  Classical_Liberal   Nov-15-03 11:27 PM   #26 
           - <drat> I forgot the sarcasm thingy!  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:29 PM   #31 
     - You just did.  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:24 PM   #23 
        - I did not say we meaning 2,700,000 people  Mountainman   Nov-15-03 11:35 PM   #34 
     - Why We Lost Vietnam  dreissig   Nov-15-03 11:24 PM   #22 
     - Myth?  DemoTex   Nov-15-03 11:28 PM   #28 
        - So I guess non veterens don't have a right to oppose this one  Classical_Liberal   Nov-15-03 11:41 PM   #38 
     - It's not just spit that goes into the narrative  submerged99   Nov-15-03 11:27 PM   #27 
  - It was probably not a regular occurance.  DemoTex   Nov-15-03 11:19 PM   #19 
     - If it happened to you  Stevie D   Nov-15-03 11:28 PM   #29 
     - Right mate!  DemoTex   Nov-15-03 11:33 PM   #33 
     - 3.5%? Maybe 10%? <sigh>  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:28 PM   #30 
        - 270,000 Soldiers  dreissig   Nov-15-03 11:43 PM   #39 
           - That's my point. And I don't want to belabor the subject either.  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:45 PM   #40 
              - and you can only help such memes along in this environment  Classical_Liberal   Nov-15-03 11:47 PM   #41 
                 - It's Still Worth Refuting  dreissig   Nov-16-03 12:14 AM   #52 
  - We have talked about this many times before I was spat on too  Mountainman   Nov-15-03 11:14 PM   #15 
  - The absence of evidence isn't evidence of existance:-)  JanMichael   Nov-15-03 11:19 PM   #18 
  - I understand and I think it is way out of hand  Mountainman   Nov-15-03 11:31 PM   #32 
     - Dangerous Criminals  dreissig   Nov-16-03 12:04 AM   #49 
  - My dad used to complain about VFW and Bircher types  Classical_Liberal   Nov-15-03 11:37 PM   #37 
  - DemoTex. right you are...  PaDUer   Nov-15-03 11:19 PM   #20 
  - Thanks PaDUer!  DemoTex   Nov-15-03 11:26 PM   #25 
     - It's something you can't  PaDUer   Nov-15-03 11:37 PM   #36 
  - Who did this?  bumbler   Nov-16-03 12:16 AM   #53 
  - I always found the spitting story to be dubious  submerged99   Nov-15-03 11:10 PM   #13 
  - OK Jack, where were you on 9/30/71? Quick, slick!  DemoTex   Nov-15-03 11:49 PM   #43 
  - A Random Incident  dreissig   Nov-15-03 11:56 PM   #46 
  - Absence of Documentation  dreissig   Nov-15-03 11:51 PM   #44 
     - Where were you?  DemoTex   Nov-15-03 11:54 PM   #45 
        - No Evidence  dreissig   Nov-16-03 12:00 AM   #47 
  - Remember that alot of Republicans opposed the Vietnam War.  w4rma   Nov-15-03 11:37 PM   #35 
  - Are you calling my father a liar??????????????????????????????????????????  sgr2   Nov-16-03 12:01 AM   #48 
  - Your Father's Experience  dreissig   Nov-16-03 12:10 AM   #50 
  - Sighs  sgr2   Nov-16-03 12:14 AM   #51 
     - No, dear, that is not what the post said  Misinformed01   Nov-16-03 12:18 AM   #54 
     - I like your reply, I will accept it  sgr2   Nov-16-03 12:39 AM   #60 
     - What You Were Told  dreissig   Nov-16-03 12:22 AM   #56 
  - The protesters are responsible for the war?  Classical_Liberal   Nov-16-03 12:22 AM   #55 
  - War Protesters  dreissig   Nov-16-03 12:35 AM   #57 
  - No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  JanMichael   Nov-16-03 01:09 AM   #62 
  - a book was written about this by a Holy Cross professor  jonnyblitz   Nov-16-03 12:37 AM   #58 
  - Status of the Debate  dreissig   Nov-16-03 12:49 AM   #61 
  - My father was an antiwar protestor in the late sixties/early seventies  RandomKoolzip   Nov-16-03 12:38 AM   #59 
 

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