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73. Whistle blow worked!
Well it is nice that the guys in the ivory tower get together to back up what was said in the law suit--from another vendor!

This shows, as I suspected, systemic problems with certification. The development of those systemic problems is a story in itself. I am glad I did not shut up! I am glad Bev and I got together!

I am launching a web site in support of the suit I brought, and will be announcing the site soon, which will have some new information and analysis on it, not seen before!

In the mean time, if anyone wants to donate to the suit, please do so The check is made out to "Citizens for Corporate Accountability-WA", which is a real-live non-profit.

Do NOT make checks out in my name.

Mail to:
Citizens for Corporate Accountability
Attn: Dan Spillane
410 E Denny Way #229
Seattle, WA 98122

2/25/2003 -- Dan Spillane, a voting machine test engineer, has filed a lawsuit against his former employer, DRE touch-screen voting machine manufacturer VoteHere.

Spillane's lawsuit charges wrongful and retaliatory termination; he contends he was removed so that he could not blow the whistle to certification labs and pass critical information to the US General Accounting Office.

He says he has evidence which shows voting systems are certified despite known flaws, demonstrating a weakness in both the NASED and the ITA system for certifying machines.

-- SANTA CLARA COUNTY decided Tuesday night to purchase machines without a paper trail, despite the urgent warnings of over 100 of the nation's top computer security experts. Officials pointed to the strength of NASED and ITA certification when explaining their reasons for ignoring the warnings.

-- Similarly, Collins County Texas decided this week not to follow safety recommendations for a paper ballot audit trail, in part due to assurances that the NASED and ITA certifications could be counted upon to catch errors or vote- rigging.

Spillane, the first insider from a voting machine manufacturer to come forward, reports that system flaws sometimes go undetected. His former company, VoteHere, manufactures touch-screen machines of its own -- which have been certified by NASED and national ITAs -- but also markets its software for use inside machines made by other companies.

Spillane says in his lawsuit that he reported over 250 issues in the VoteHere voting system, including critical errors that can prevent the machines from correctly registering the votes, or working efficiently on election day. He sought meetings with company officials to express concerns about integrity flaws, which he says led to his firing. His complaint indicates that VoteHere did not address the flaws, and that the VoteHere system was certified by independent testing labs despite known issues.

Georgia recently approved VoteHere's machines, and the military and others are considering the technology.

Spillane also alleges company officials bragged about using political connections to pass software, rather than meeting the rules.

VoteHere's board of directors includes former CIA director Robert Gates. VoteHere's Chairman is Admiral Bill Owens, who was senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney, and also includes Ralph Munro, a key Washington State politician.

Spillane's findings also suggest the recently-passed Help America Vote Act makes problems worse, by releasing a large sum of up-front money for equipment based on the same approval system which led to Florida 2000.

Permission is granted for reprint.

The lawsuit is at:
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=Content&...
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  -Major scientists BUST on Black Box Voting - New York Times pickup BevHarris  Jul-23-03 11:15 PM   #0 
  - Woo-hoo!  mrsteve   Jul-23-03 11:20 PM   #1 
  - Well, this is a pleasant bonus.  aquart   Jul-23-03 11:21 PM   #2 
  - WooHoooooooooo!!!!  Eloriel   Jul-23-03 11:22 PM   #3 
  - Understatement of the year....ya think?  DEMActivist   Jul-23-03 11:22 PM   #4 
  - It's not just a bad idea....  Bozola   Jul-24-03 09:29 AM   #106 
     - It's a farce. I am so glad Bev (et. al.) is on this  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-24-03 10:24 AM   #117 
  - Fantastic.......  DagmarK   Jul-23-03 11:23 PM   #5 
  - Yahoo!!!  alfredo   Jul-23-03 11:23 PM   #6 
  - Congratulations  ShimokitaJer   Jul-23-03 11:24 PM   #7 
  - My heart just skipped a few beats!  dmr   Jul-23-03 11:26 PM   #8 
  - OUTSTANDING  WilliamPitt   Jul-23-03 11:27 PM   #9 
  - Grey Davis needs a copy of this info fast!  Generic Other   Jul-23-03 11:27 PM   #10 
  - Excellent news, and thanks for the hard work  jpgray   Jul-23-03 11:27 PM   #11 
  - Outstanding!!**  harrison   Jul-23-03 11:29 PM   #12 
  - 18,181 congradulations!  whirlygigspin   Jul-23-03 11:29 PM   #13 
  - Hoo-Hah!  Pastiche423   Jul-23-03 11:30 PM   #14 
  - YES!!!  Pobeka   Jul-23-03 11:31 PM   #15 
  - Be sure to send a copy of the pdf...  punpirate   Jul-23-03 11:32 PM   #16 
  - About time!  jefff   Jul-23-03 11:32 PM   #17 
  - You should know.........that only ONE human being on earth certifies  DagmarK   Jul-23-03 11:36 PM   #23 
  - There's a new certifier...  punpirate   Jul-23-03 11:42 PM   #30 
     - SysTest has been a certifier for over a year now. Unfortunately  BevHarris   Jul-23-03 11:48 PM   #31 
  - sounds more like incompetence or hubris  TrogL   Jul-24-03 12:25 AM   #51 
     - Trogl, why is it always incompetence or hubris with you?  TruthIsAll   Jul-24-03 12:44 AM   #60 
     - All I can say TrogL is....  DEMActivist   Jul-24-03 01:00 AM   #68 
  - Awesome! Awesome! Great Job! I'm so jazzed about this!  SharonAnn   Jul-23-03 11:33 PM   #18 
  - T H E R E..W A S..D A R K N E S S..N O W..T H E R E..I S..L I G H T!  TruthIsAll   Jul-23-03 11:33 PM   #19 
  - A giant bitch (no offence) slap to your detractors!!!!  JanMichael   Jul-23-03 11:34 PM   #20 
  - Not Really  Nederland   Jul-24-03 09:38 AM   #109 
     - That's a Microsoft answer, although technically correct....  ParanoidPat   Jul-24-03 02:19 PM   #141 
     - Jeez Nederland, You're A Real KillJoy, Eh??? - THANKS BEV !!!  WillyT   Jul-24-03 06:34 PM   #162 
  - Congratulations, Bev & Crew!  Octafish   Jul-23-03 11:35 PM   #21 
  - Hah Hah! It's a beautiful thing!  Eloriel   Jul-23-03 11:35 PM   #22 
  - Wasn't that picture especially delicious?????  DEMActivist   Jul-23-03 11:39 PM   #28 
     - Let's add Katherine Harris to that picture too please  dmr   Jul-24-03 01:27 AM   #78 
  - Congratulations, Bev! Congratulations, DemActivist for your work  DemBones DemBones   Jul-23-03 11:36 PM   #24 
  - ditto  bpilgrim   Jul-24-03 04:41 PM   #153 
  - This is wonderful news Bev  seemslikeadream   Jul-23-03 11:37 PM   #25 
  - Wonderful!  juajen   Jul-23-03 11:38 PM   #26 
  - I say..........hold all 2002 elections AGAIN!  DagmarK   Jul-23-03 11:39 PM   #27 
  - Demactivist. Part of what will soon become a major coup  BevHarris   Jul-23-03 11:42 PM   #29 
  - You're so right, Bev  Eloriel   Jul-23-03 11:53 PM   #33 
  - I call her a genius  dmr   Jul-24-03 01:22 AM   #77 
  - As I told Dr. Dill a couple weeks ago....  DEMActivist   Jul-24-03 12:00 AM   #37 
     - Well, it is associated with this project, my dear!!!!!!!!  DagmarK   Jul-24-03 12:22 AM   #49 
  - Here's Link to NYT story  pschoeb   Jul-23-03 11:52 PM   #32 
  - Thanks!  berry   Jul-24-03 12:37 AM   #56 
  - Excellent article  BrewerJohn   Jul-24-03 12:53 AM   #63 
  - One comment on use of "passwords" for such systems.  TahitiNut   Jul-23-03 11:55 PM   #34 
  - I think this link is particularly apropos to...  punpirate   Jul-24-03 12:02 AM   #39 
  - This COULD NOT have happened without Scoop New Zealand  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 12:09 AM   #41 
  - The NYT imes story link is:  bumbler   Jul-23-03 11:56 PM   #35 
  - Lotsa geeks buy the Thursday NYTs for its tech section.  Bozita   Jul-24-03 12:12 AM   #42 
  - Great! Bonus points awarded!  bumbler   Jul-24-03 12:17 AM   #45 
  - The Times is very good at doing this  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-24-03 10:31 AM   #119 
  - A true Patriot - Bev Harris***  shance   Jul-24-03 12:37 AM   #57 
  - LMAO!!!.....WOOOHOOOO!!!!....  Lostnote03   Jul-23-03 11:57 PM   #36 
  - Congratulations and Thank YOU!!!!  madmax   Jul-24-03 12:01 AM   #38 
  - To Paul 'Bev' Revere and her DU tech team of midnight riders......  Dover   Jul-24-03 12:06 AM   #40 
  - Wonderful!!!!!!!!!! This is fantastic news! (n/t)  w4rma   Jul-24-03 12:14 AM   #43 
  - GREAT NEWS! I'm a believer, Bev. You've really done it  bransonfu   Jul-24-03 12:15 AM   #44 
  - this is wonderful!  arcane1   Jul-24-03 12:17 AM   #46 
  - Our Bucs' Gruden says "Pound the rock".  madfloridian   Jul-24-03 12:18 AM   #47 
  - Think about it  higher class   Jul-24-03 12:20 AM   #48 
  - Uh oh  Eloriel   Jul-24-03 12:24 AM   #50 
  - Diebold apologist pleads incompetence?  bumbler   Jul-24-03 12:47 AM   #61 
  - Rubin did a great job on documenting the flaws  Jackpine Radical   Jul-24-03 07:37 AM   #100 
  - This is absolutely fantastic news  Oaf Of Office   Jul-24-03 12:25 AM   #52 
  - What a reward for all that hard work.  Clete   Jul-24-03 12:26 AM   #53 
  - Excellent work Bev  scottxyz   Jul-24-03 12:32 AM   #54 
  - Bev, from the 'left coast' bogs, THANK YOU!  ParanoidPat   Jul-24-03 12:37 AM   #55 
  - My heartfelt and sincere gratitude and congratulations  ibegurpard   Jul-24-03 12:39 AM   #58 
  - Here's a draft letter that people can send to the gov and SOSs......  DagmarK   Jul-24-03 12:40 AM   #59 
  - Robin :-)  Melinda   Jul-24-03 12:54 AM   #64 
  - Bev Harris - Democracies Angel.  Melinda   Jul-24-03 12:50 AM   #62 
  - Bravo Bev! Rest of message off topic  preciousdove   Jul-24-03 12:54 AM   #65 
  - Not so OT Accenture does Voting Machines  preciousdove   Jul-24-03 01:30 AM   #79 
     - More on Accenture, SERVE, and voting (interesting blog)  Aries   Jul-24-03 09:50 AM   #113 
  - This is excellent as was hearing you on Guy James  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-24-03 12:55 AM   #66 
  - I just sent the info to  alfredo   Jul-24-03 12:57 AM   #67 
  - Hey Bev! A special favor?  DEMActivist   Jul-24-03 01:03 AM   #69 
  - Will do. But tomorrow will be NUTS.  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 01:13 AM   #72 
     - One day soon is a deal! n/t  DEMActivist   Jul-24-03 01:18 AM   #74 
        - I wrote him  dmr   Jul-24-03 03:09 AM   #92 
  - A toast to Bev Harris and DU  proud patriot   Jul-24-03 01:05 AM   #70 
  - What else can I say, DAMN STUD.  jamesinca   Jul-24-03 01:08 AM   #71 
  - Whistle blow worked!  DanSpillane   Jul-24-03 01:15 AM   #73 
  - Yes, Dan! Your suit proves it's a pattern!!!!  DEMActivist   Jul-24-03 01:19 AM   #75 
  - Outstanding!  white_rider   Jul-24-03 01:20 AM   #76 
  - Bev, I'm So Glad...  RedEagle   Jul-24-03 01:59 AM   #84 
  - Great news!  khephra   Jul-24-03 01:45 AM   #80 
  - Fantastic! Congrats to Bev and Dan and all involved!  Stephanie   Jul-24-03 01:51 AM   #81 
  - Our Founding Fathers Must Be Smiling Down Upon You....n/t  Dover   Jul-24-03 01:53 AM   #82 
  - This is the kind of news that puts companies out of business...  ianbruce   Jul-24-03 01:57 AM   #83 
  - And that's only the half of it...  scottxyz   Jul-24-03 02:04 AM   #85 
  - Are the problems basically irreparable?  Stephanie   Jul-24-03 02:16 AM   #86 
     - The better approach is....  DEMActivist   Jul-24-03 02:22 AM   #87 
     - Is Michael Moore on the press release list?  grasswire   Jul-24-03 02:47 AM   #89 
        - I don't have Michael Moore's contact info  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 02:49 AM   #90 
           - This is the address on his site-  party_line   Jul-24-03 08:43 AM   #102 
     - I don't think so: quote  DrBB   Jul-24-03 09:35 PM   #176 
  - OK, sooooo....how does Dr. Britian Williams fare here?  DEMActivist   Jul-24-03 02:32 AM   #88 
  - But Williams isn't actually doing these tests.  punpirate   Jul-24-03 12:10 PM   #128 
     - Certification appears cursory. . . David Dill: "practically impossible..."  Zan_of_Texas   Jul-24-03 03:17 PM   #144 
  - Super  oasis   Jul-24-03 02:57 AM   #91 
  - Atlanta Journal Constitution just ran the story  dmr   Jul-24-03 04:08 AM   #93 
  - Great, this should have  dusty64   Jul-24-03 06:52 AM   #97 
  - AJC whored -- but it's a start  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 06:59 AM   #98 
  - WOW! Great Job to all involved...  SideshowScott   Jul-24-03 04:35 AM   #94 
  - Bev - my sincere thank's to you & team (bow).......QUESTION?  cthrumatrix   Jul-24-03 04:50 AM   #95 
  - For anyone approaching congresspersons, media  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 06:51 AM   #96 
  - Bev, a question.  flpoljunkie   Jul-24-03 08:08 AM   #101 
  - Bev  party_line   Jul-24-03 07:34 AM   #99 
  - So who'd you like to play you in the movie?  carolinayellowdog   Jul-24-03 09:08 AM   #103 
  - LOL  realFedUp   Jul-24-03 09:12 AM   #104 
  - Forget the movie - I want a moratorium on these machines.  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 11:34 AM   #124 
  - My picture of Bev....  Vadem   Jul-24-03 07:49 PM   #167 
     - Not that close...  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 08:04 PM   #168 
        - Well, we all know what your husband sees in you because  Vadem   Jul-24-03 08:53 PM   #172 
  - Bev, you've taken this out of context...  Bozola   Jul-24-03 09:19 AM   #105 
  - Keeping my paper informed  PATRICK   Jul-24-03 09:30 AM   #107 
  - LaPore's odd behavior  PATRICK   Jul-24-03 09:33 AM   #108 
  - Bev, you're a true heroine of the Republic.  hedda_foil   Jul-24-03 09:39 AM   #110 
  - A couple of interesting points in the Hopkins document  CafeToad   Jul-24-03 09:40 AM   #111 
  - Haha! nice one  Bozola   Jul-24-03 10:01 AM   #115 
  - Here's what's even funnier about the MD purchase  Eloriel   Jul-24-03 10:53 AM   #120 
     - My post was partly in jest  CafeToad   Jul-24-03 10:57 AM   #121 
     - And just wait til they get even more a foothold overseas!  Eloriel   Jul-24-03 11:56 AM   #125 
     - Maybe Maryland machines are worth more...  punpirate   Jul-24-03 12:28 PM   #130 
     - Easy explanation, Maryland ordered the 'Bill Blass' designer edition....  ParanoidPat   Jul-24-03 01:59 PM   #135 
  - stunning, stunning!!!  nostamj   Jul-24-03 09:41 AM   #112 
  - New Info From Bev.... New Thread....  althecat   Jul-24-03 09:54 AM   #114 
  - Welcome to DU Althecat  dmr   Jul-24-03 03:29 PM   #146 
     - Pssst -- allthecat is one of the big BIG heroes in this story  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 03:37 PM   #147 
  - E-mail to Local League of Women Voters  HFishbine   Jul-24-03 10:09 AM   #116 
  - Excellent -- and here's why it's important  Eloriel   Jul-24-03 10:30 AM   #118 
  - I wrote follow-up letters too  dmr   Jul-24-03 11:11 AM   #122 
  - I couldn't find this story in the NYT print edition!  Stephanie   Jul-24-03 11:15 AM   #123 
  - It's in the front section (n/t)  goobergunch   Jul-24-03 11:59 AM   #126 
     - Baltimore media is PISSED -- wondering who the hell made the  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 01:43 PM   #132 
        - Bev, remember the article on the subject at the independent  ibegurpard   Jul-24-03 01:47 PM   #134 
           - Articles by the courageous Van Smith of the Baltimore City Paper  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 02:12 PM   #138 
              - Here's the Baltimore link  Bushfire   Jul-24-03 05:18 PM   #158 
  - I was reading my NYT today...  goobergunch   Jul-24-03 12:01 PM   #127 
  - I believe MIT did a study on touch screen voting.  Skwmom   Jul-24-03 12:17 PM   #129 
  - A kick: Happy birthday to myself  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 01:39 PM   #131 
  - Really? 2 days before my wife!  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-24-03 01:47 PM   #133 
  - No no I'm a grandma  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 02:20 PM   #142 
  - Happy, Happy Birthday Bev!  dmr   Jul-24-03 04:44 PM   #154 
  - And a day before my wife's!  ParanoidPat   Jul-24-03 07:10 PM   #164 
  - Happy birthday.... you think you are in the loop :)  althecat   Jul-24-03 05:09 PM   #156 
  - allthecat: MSNBC, CNN, AP wire, NYT, Reuters, Slashdot,  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 06:43 PM   #163 
  - Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you.......  Vadem   Jul-24-03 08:15 PM   #169 
  - CNN just jumped into it  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 02:02 PM   #136 
  - Someone should get a comment from Al Gore  Stephanie   Jul-24-03 02:14 PM   #139 
  - CNN whored out (this time) and Donna Brazile doesn't get it  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 03:55 PM   #149 
     - I'I'm sick of Donna Brazile! When I read that she is best buds with  Vadem   Jul-24-03 08:25 PM   #170 
  - See Contact info for letter writing for ALL STATES in Activism....here:  DagmarK   Jul-24-03 02:11 PM   #137 
  - Huzzah for Bev Jefferson!  tom_paine   Jul-24-03 02:15 PM   #140 
  - MSNBC slams Diebold - IOWA MOVING TO DECERTIFY  BevHarris   Jul-24-03 03:07 PM   #143 
  - freaky little poll attached to this article--off to the left side  anamandujano   Jul-24-03 10:17 PM   #179 
  - I called my local elections supervisor and referenced the  retread   Jul-24-03 03:28 PM   #145 
  - Slashdot - of course the techies are climbing on  mrsteve   Jul-24-03 03:42 PM   #148 
  - Shedding LARGE, GRATEFUL Alligator tears!!  loudsue   Jul-24-03 03:59 PM   #150 
  - This alone is enough to justify all the existence of DU! Thanks Bev & DA!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-24-03 04:04 PM   #151 
  - This thread is going back to page 1!!!! Big ole kickity kick for the  loudsue   Jul-24-03 04:31 PM   #152 
  - Congratulations Bev, you made the big leagues.  annonymous   Jul-24-03 04:54 PM   #155 
  - wow.  angka   Jul-24-03 05:15 PM   #157 
  - Forbes Is Carrying Reuters Report.. Aint Half Bad  althecat   Jul-24-03 05:32 PM   #159 
  - Growing legs like a centipede!!!! GO BEV!!!  loudsue   Jul-24-03 05:37 PM   #160 
  - Back to Page 1.....  loudsue   Jul-24-03 06:28 PM   #161 
  - AP link, a kick, and a thank you too  NNN0LHI   Jul-24-03 07:15 PM   #165 
  - I am getting feedback from friends about voter fraud  alfredo   Jul-24-03 07:42 PM   #166 
  - Congrats Bev  HellKat   Jul-24-03 08:51 PM   #171 
  - What counties in Florida 2000 used diebold?  nomatrix   Jul-24-03 09:12 PM   #173 
  - kickety kick!  Vadem   Jul-24-03 09:26 PM   #174 
  - What about the recall in California?  ReadTomPaine   Jul-24-03 09:35 PM   #175 
  - I was thinking that this story might stop them in their tracks  anamandujano   Jul-24-03 09:57 PM   #178 
  - Have Some Fun, Take a Screen Shot  Crisco   Jul-24-03 09:46 PM   #177 
 

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