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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:40 AM
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7. I'm saying a strategy that is bad will not do it
You are setting up a false choice.

If the Democrats want to ignore enough of the liberal/progressive base with these coinstant kicks in the teeth, then they are also guaranteeing enough of an erosion in what will be a tight race to ensure four more years of Bush.

That's the choice.
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  -Why do the Democratic Centrists keep making it worse? Armstead  Jul-23-03 10:28 AM   #0 
  - Reason not to?  Blue_Chill   Jul-23-03 10:30 AM   #1 
  - No it's not reason enough  Armstead   Jul-23-03 10:32 AM   #3 
     - So you wouldn't mind  Blue_Chill   Jul-23-03 10:36 AM   #5 
        - I'm saying a strategy that is bad will not do it  Armstead   Jul-23-03 10:40 AM   #7 
        - You are asking for the impossible  Blue_Chill   Jul-23-03 10:43 AM   #9 
           - Not a big tent  Armstead   Jul-23-03 10:48 AM   #13 
           - Look at it from the other side  Blue_Chill   Jul-23-03 10:54 AM   #19 
              - hmmm...so exactly what does a Democrat believe in then?  Terwilliger   Jul-23-03 11:02 AM   #24 
                 - OMFG who told you!  Blue_Chill   Jul-23-03 12:04 PM   #32 
                 - Yeah, more or less.  JVS   Jul-23-03 03:21 PM   #69 
           - Seems to be that you are drawing the line of the "hard Left"  CWebster   Jul-23-03 10:50 AM   #15 
           - No  Blue_Chill   Jul-23-03 10:51 AM   #16 
              - You misunderstood  Armstead   Jul-23-03 10:54 AM   #18 
           - Democrats have to cater to their principals  Az   Jul-23-03 11:02 AM   #25 
           - So when will they start (catering to Liberals)?  Atlant   Jul-23-03 11:07 AM   #26 
        - why the hell does sucking off Bush have to do with getting elected?  StandWatie   Jul-23-03 10:40 AM   #8 
        - I agree  Blue_Chill   Jul-23-03 10:44 AM   #10 
        - funny thing though  CWebster   Jul-23-03 10:48 AM   #12 
        - Some don't see it that way  HFishbine   Jul-23-03 12:49 PM   #37 
           - that is just so optimistic  jafap   Jul-23-03 02:37 PM   #62 
              - jafap  HFishbine   Jul-23-03 03:33 PM   #70 
  - Clinton is not above doing Dumb things. Just another in a long  zidzi   Jul-23-03 10:32 AM   #2 
  - Clinton wants to be redeemed....  kentuck   Jul-23-03 10:36 AM   #4 
  - He's the stupidest smart person I've ever heard of  PurityOfEssence   Jul-23-03 01:30 PM   #42 
  - Because they're actually Republicans?  Terwilliger   Jul-23-03 10:37 AM   #6 
  - Because they really don't want to be Democrats?  CWebster   Jul-23-03 10:44 AM   #11 
  - Webster: I never thought about it quite that way but you have a point.....  LiberalLibra   Jul-23-03 11:16 AM   #27 
  - Nail on the head  Armstead   Jul-23-03 12:21 PM   #34 
  - Because they are also part of the national ruling class  JVS   Jul-23-03 10:48 AM   #14 
  - Again,  Stoic   Jul-23-03 10:53 AM   #17 
  - I agree with you  Armstead   Jul-23-03 10:56 AM   #21 
  - "The far right have effectively excluded any moderate Republicans...  tomp   Jul-23-03 01:14 PM   #39 
  - An EXCELLENT post, 'stoic' !  poskonig   Jul-23-03 02:54 PM   #65 
  - Clinton was working last night  buddhamama   Jul-23-03 10:56 AM   #20 
  - they suck  jonnyblitz   Jul-23-03 10:58 AM   #22 
  - Sorry. I don't see Dem "Centrists" and the "far left" as so different.....  LiberalLibra   Jul-23-03 10:59 AM   #23 
  - I don't want someone well-mannered  chadm   Jul-23-03 11:49 AM   #30 
  - Another word for "integrity" is "honesty", Clinton's words were honest....  LiberalLibra   Jul-23-03 11:56 AM   #31 
     - how can you say that?  tomp   Jul-23-03 12:51 PM   #38 
  - Depends on hiw you define "far left"  Armstead   Jul-23-03 12:13 PM   #33 
  - The centrists should have learned  notsodumbhillbilly   Jul-23-03 11:21 AM   #28 
  - You have to understand that the Democrats are not...  chadm   Jul-23-03 11:47 AM   #29 
  - Note, Clinton was advising Blair during the build up to the Iraq invasion  w4rma   Jul-23-03 12:40 PM   #35 
  - does it remind you of kerry's recent "dumbest thing possible"?  tomp   Jul-23-03 12:45 PM   #36 
  - well, yeah, tomp, now that you mention it.  tomp   Jul-23-03 01:41 PM   #52 
  - well, yeah, tomp, now that you mention it.  tomp   Jul-23-03 01:41 PM   #53 
  - well, yeah, tomp, now that you mention it.  tomp   Jul-23-03 01:42 PM   #54 
  - Why do the Greens keep making it worse  jiacinto   Jul-23-03 01:15 PM   #40 
  - And don't forget  sangha   Jul-23-03 01:30 PM   #41 
  - Not according to the Kerry campaign  CWebster   Jul-23-03 01:31 PM   #43 
     - ah, good point!  tomp   Jul-23-03 01:37 PM   #48 
        - Avoiding the question?  sangha   Jul-23-03 01:39 PM   #50 
           - gee, sangha, i don't know.  tomp   Jul-23-03 02:00 PM   #58 
              - I don't know either  sangha   Jul-23-03 04:56 PM   #72 
  - I guess your candidate  CWebster   Jul-23-03 01:33 PM   #44 
  - lol! nt  tomp   Jul-23-03 01:38 PM   #49 
  - Because...  Armstead   Jul-23-03 01:36 PM   #46 
  - Why don't we change this board's name then to  jiacinto   Jul-23-03 02:40 PM   #63 
     - heavens! a diversity of viewpoints!  Iverson   Jul-23-03 06:35 PM   #77 
  - no, jiacinto.  tomp   Jul-23-03 01:36 PM   #47 
  - May not be "interesting" enough for you but sure it sure.......  LiberalLibra   Jul-23-03 03:14 PM   #67 
     - no, it proves he is offensive enough to piss people off...  tomp   Jul-23-03 04:51 PM   #71 
  - what you refer to as lies  buddhamama   Jul-23-03 01:56 PM   # 
     - I never said we should give "free passes" to Democrats  jiacinto   Jul-23-03 02:42 PM   #64 
        - jiacinto: Especially when Dems have the ONLY VIABLE chance of beating.....  LiberalLibra   Jul-23-03 03:18 PM   #68 
  - Status Quo or Bust baby!  Forkboy   Jul-23-03 01:34 PM   #45 
  - Dean is afraid to "rock the boat"?  sangha   Jul-23-03 01:40 PM   #51 
     - The true centrists hate his boat rocking  Armstead   Jul-23-03 01:54 PM   #55 
     - Dean is a "moderate" but not a "centrist"  sangha   Jul-23-03 01:56 PM   #57 
     - I wasn't speaking of the politicians  Forkboy   Jul-23-03 02:00 PM   #59 
        - Of course you weren't  sangha   Jul-23-03 02:02 PM   #60 
           - like I care  Forkboy   Jul-23-03 02:56 PM   #66 
  - three errors  Iverson   Jul-23-03 01:55 PM   #56 
  - I think that what Armstread is saying is that  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-23-03 02:06 PM   #61 
  - Excellent post, LL  charlie   Jul-23-03 05:07 PM   #73 
  - I think that you are right.  Iverson   Jul-23-03 05:14 PM   #74 
  - America Is A Centrist Country  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-23-03 05:40 PM   #75 
     - But the current Republicanites are hard rightists  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-23-03 06:28 PM   #76 
 

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