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Tue Jul-08-03 07:21 AM
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| 40. Electronic Fronteir Foundation had a story July 2 |
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San Francisco - The Electronic Frontier Foundation issued an action alert this week warning that electronic voting machines installed without a verifiable paper audit trail and open source software programming are vulnerable to election fraud. "Touchscreen voting machines can increase accessibility for people with disabilities, reduce the cost of printing multilingual paper ballots, and make the experience of voting less confusing," explained EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn. "However, without basic auditing checks, electronic voting machines dramatically raise the stakes for insider and hacking attacks resulting in election fraud." If you aren't in contact with these people, Bev, do so. They are heavily involved in electronic privacy issues. http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/20030702_eff_pr.ph...
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| -Black Box Voting: The first volley is OUT |
BevHarris |
Jul-09-03 12:55 PM |
#0 |
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Wow.....reading now. |
HerbieHeadhunter |
Jul-08-03 01:45 AM |
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Downloading now |
nextbillgates |
Jul-08-03 01:48 AM |
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AWESOME work Bev! Colleagues and friends been waiting for this! |
Tinoire |
Jul-08-03 01:48 AM |
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Bev I have forwarded this to select lists as well |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-08-03 01:50 AM |
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Hang on tight boys and girls! |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 01:54 AM |
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Why does Scoop not have |
OhMyGod |
Jul-08-03 01:59 AM |
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He does have it on his front page: Titled Bigger Than Watergate |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:08 AM |
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Yahoo Group? |
suigeneris |
Jul-08-03 02:06 AM |
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Sorry about that link... it is corrected now... |
althecat |
Jul-08-03 03:59 AM |
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Interesting reading. Any comments on their caveat, Bev? |
Wonk |
Jul-08-03 02:06 AM |
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Coming soon: Conversations with County Employees |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:11 AM |
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Thanks |
fabius |
Jul-08-03 02:07 AM |
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fanTAStic!! I have forwarded to 15 people -- |
ima_sinnic |
Jul-08-03 02:10 AM |
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Yup, that's pretty much it, isn't it? |
punpirate |
Jul-08-03 02:12 AM |
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Pun -- The next piece will be familiar to you |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:20 AM |
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Well, I'll have to read the next installment... |
punpirate |
Jul-08-03 02:24 AM |
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The next part is not about code, but documentation. |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:40 AM |
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Wouldn't this article qualify for LBN? |
Bushfire |
Jul-08-03 02:13 AM |
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It is breaking -- but I didn't want to dup. It's hitting more news outlets |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:22 AM |
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Got 'em, coach ... err, I mean ... Bev! |
MSchreader |
Jul-08-03 02:32 AM |
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Glad to. PM me here with it |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:41 AM |
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Was the GAO involved? |
higher class |
Jul-08-03 02:33 AM |
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It is now up to THEM to prove their system can be trusted |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:49 AM |
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Sanity Check |
OrdinaryTa |
Jul-08-03 09:43 AM |
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Just Curious |
OhMyGod |
Jul-08-03 02:33 AM |
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Good idea! In fact, a comparison of systems vs accuracy |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:51 AM |
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We will not go gentle into that good night |
angka |
Jul-08-03 02:40 AM |
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Bev, Could you ask the legal team... |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 02:57 AM |
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A new forum is going up as we speak. Slashdot and all are invited |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 03:02 AM |
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No Bev, I mean from the Diebold code... |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 03:26 AM |
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Well those are comments, not code. |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 03:31 AM |
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I found quite a few real winners! |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 03:36 AM |
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Wooh! a thread of comments! Would you also post it |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 03:39 AM |
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I'll be glad to! |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 03:44 AM |
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Electronic Fronteir Foundation had a story July 2 |
cap |
Jul-08-03 07:21 AM |
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I hope people "get" how big a deal this is... |
IMayBeWrongBut |
Jul-08-03 03:03 AM |
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Most likely method for that would be |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 03:17 AM |
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That's what the logic flow chart is for! |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 03:29 AM |
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The votes are recorded in 3 ledgers... |
IMayBeWrongBut |
Jul-08-03 03:37 AM |
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You Must Be Thrilled To Have This All Coming Together ! |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-08-03 05:22 AM |
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A bump for the morning crowd |
spinbaby |
Jul-08-03 07:10 AM |
#39 |
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what comes first THANKS or CONGRATULATIONS? |
tinanator |
Jul-08-03 07:25 AM |
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ditto :-) |
papau |
Jul-08-03 03:12 PM |
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Mostly just a kick |
IMayBeWrongBut |
Jul-08-03 07:27 AM |
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GEMS Vote Counting Security Flaws: Clear and Devastating! |
flpoljunkie |
Jul-08-03 07:53 AM |
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Fantastic work.... |
deseo |
Jul-08-03 08:02 AM |
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Buzzflash has it . |
AbbPoacher |
Jul-08-03 08:04 AM |
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Can't read the GEMS manual |
jimmynochad |
Jul-08-03 08:16 AM |
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Awesome! |
laruemtt |
Jul-08-03 08:23 AM |
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Any chance of making some consolidated Zip files? |
schrodinger_I |
Jul-08-03 08:39 AM |
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There are several GEMS manuals |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 09:43 AM |
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Tried but files are password protected |
jimmynochad |
Jul-08-03 10:14 AM |
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Incredibly lucid article , clear and understandable |
Shaddann |
Jul-08-03 08:46 AM |
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uh oh! the scoop links are DEAD |
nostamj |
Jul-08-03 08:56 AM |
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works now |
dweller |
Jul-08-03 09:10 AM |
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I've sent the links |
MuseRider |
Jul-08-03 08:57 AM |
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Thank you for all if this fantastic work. n/t |
myrna minx |
Jul-08-03 09:06 AM |
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I have an important request |
sangh0 |
Jul-08-03 09:09 AM |
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Thanks! |
PATRICK |
Jul-08-03 09:33 AM |
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Question |
Nederland |
Jul-08-03 10:17 AM |
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Nope. Remote access will do. |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 10:19 AM |
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Connected? |
Nederland |
Jul-08-03 12:11 PM |
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Are machines connected to the internet? Do they have modems in them? |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 12:24 PM |
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Unbelievable (nt) |
Nederland |
Jul-08-03 12:34 PM |
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More than just an internet connection ... |
Trajan |
Jul-08-03 03:43 PM |
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Much more than wireless as well |
DEMActivist |
Jul-08-03 05:30 PM |
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This is phenomenally well done, Bev! |
hedda_foil |
Jul-08-03 10:37 AM |
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Here are simple security measures that would help immensely |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 10:51 AM |
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Why did they make the print so small? |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-08-03 10:42 AM |
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Re: text size |
hedda_foil |
Jul-08-03 10:47 AM |
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Hi, Will. There are two different articles; you are looking at an editoria |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 10:58 AM |
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I'm going to try to browbeat my techies |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-08-03 11:32 AM |
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Will -- I'm going to PM you, let me give you something no one has |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 11:48 AM |
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Great work Bev... |
ianbruce |
Jul-08-03 12:13 PM |
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Pls check out other sources, too. |
mb_nyc |
Jul-08-03 12:48 PM |
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Dr. Dill and also Dr. Rebecca Mercuri have vast info online |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 12:53 PM |
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Mercuri and Dill |
mb_nyc |
Jul-08-03 01:09 PM |
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Dr. Dill needs permission from legals to do this, so it's not a given |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 01:15 PM |
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California Task Force Report |
mb_nyc |
Jul-08-03 01:21 PM |
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good work. I just sent the story out |
alfredo |
Jul-08-03 12:28 PM |
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Greetings!!! Alfredo!!! |
Lostnote03 |
Jul-09-03 12:56 AM |
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Give them hell |
alfredo |
Jul-09-03 11:06 AM |
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I sent it to the Dean campaign |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 11:26 AM |
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Well, as a naysayer... |
Imajika |
Jul-08-03 01:23 PM |
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Why not work with some organizations ... |
mb_nyc |
Jul-08-03 01:33 PM |
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Agreed |
Nederland |
Jul-08-03 02:00 PM |
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....Hype? You're entitled to your opinion |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 02:31 PM |
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Tired |
Nederland |
Jul-08-03 03:29 PM |
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Call me crazy |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 04:19 PM |
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Let me guess |
Nederland |
Jul-08-03 04:29 PM |
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You've seen all the code? |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 06:36 PM |
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I remember we had a thread about this subject & it involved the number 3 |
corarose |
Jul-09-03 02:20 AM |
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Attack? What Attack? Just another opinion.... |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 04:40 PM |
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Response |
Nederland |
Jul-08-03 04:52 PM |
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Sorry, not trying to pick a fight... |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 07:26 PM |
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I'm sorry but when you say a story is "bigger than Watergate" |
birdman |
Jul-08-03 05:58 PM |
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RE; "the notion that they will not get their vote counted".... |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-08-03 11:49 PM |
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Nederland |
Imajika |
Jul-08-03 05:54 PM |
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Nothing wrong with dissent, but... |
DEMActivist |
Jul-08-03 06:16 PM |
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Just one thing, Imajika |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 10:00 PM |
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no evidence? |
angka |
Jul-09-03 09:09 AM |
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Ahh, Imajika. So good of you to join us. |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 03:09 PM |
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Well, nice to see you too |
Imajika |
Jul-08-03 05:25 PM |
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What I think, Imajika, |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 06:15 PM |
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Imajika? |
truth2power |
Jul-08-03 06:53 PM |
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heh |
SDent |
Jul-09-03 03:02 PM |
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Blah blah blah ..... |
Trajan |
Jul-08-03 04:00 PM |
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why is important that everyone be totally convinced? |
Cocoa |
Jul-08-03 04:42 PM |
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Hmm |
chadm |
Jul-08-03 04:38 PM |
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Yes... |
Imajika |
Jul-08-03 06:30 PM |
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the same party...the CFR ? |
birdman |
Jul-08-03 06:39 PM |
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Oh yes, for certain |
Imajika |
Jul-08-03 06:53 PM |
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Watch out you're going to be called a Rove plant |
birdman |
Jul-08-03 06:58 PM |
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Nah...not you birdman... |
DEMActivist |
Jul-08-03 07:02 PM |
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Ca-ching |
birdman |
Jul-08-03 07:12 PM |
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Who cares if it brings anyone down |
FlaGranny |
Jul-08-03 06:35 PM |
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Exactly! |
DEMActivist |
Jul-08-03 06:42 PM |
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DING, DING, DING!!! |
ibegurpard |
Jul-09-03 01:40 AM |
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Smart strategy Bev--you ROCK |
DrBB |
Jul-08-03 11:35 AM |
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LOL. Nicely put. |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 11:51 AM |
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Soon to undergo what the bio-hazard experts call |
DrBB |
Jul-08-03 12:26 PM |
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i am SO frustrated! |
nostamj |
Jul-08-03 12:28 PM |
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kick! - saw it first at BuzzFlash |
donsu |
Jul-08-03 12:30 PM |
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It's propagating. Just went up on |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 12:40 PM |
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Link here |
antigop |
Jul-08-03 12:50 PM |
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Slashdot |
Crisco |
Jul-08-03 08:11 PM |
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I am letting some University people in on this as well. |
midnitemoleman |
Jul-08-03 01:06 PM |
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Alt web address due to system overload at Scoop New Zealand |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 01:11 PM |
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Just sent it out to |
alfredo |
Jul-08-03 01:38 PM |
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Bev, what a fantastic bit of work! |
juajen |
Jul-08-03 02:25 PM |
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Kick |
dmr |
Jul-08-03 02:01 PM |
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Georgia newspapers are calling |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 02:10 PM |
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I gave the story to... |
sgr2 |
Jul-08-03 02:43 PM |
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Hallelujah |
party_line |
Jul-08-03 02:48 PM |
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WooHoo!!! |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 03:57 PM |
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CandidateCounter and SumCandidateCounter are not copies |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jul-08-03 03:18 PM |
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top story on www.slashdot.org! |
Chef_Ramen_Noodle |
Jul-08-03 03:28 PM |
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My favorite line from a slashdot post: |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 03:44 PM |
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My favorite line -- |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 06:48 PM |
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LOL |
Lostnote03 |
Jul-09-03 01:12 AM |
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Bev this is REALLY BIG ! |
bearfan454 |
Jul-08-03 03:46 PM |
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I just sent more messages |
alfredo |
Jul-08-03 04:01 PM |
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the nz site must be swamped... |
grasswire |
Jul-08-03 04:19 PM |
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Mirror=whatreallyhappened.com |
DEMActivist |
Jul-08-03 04:21 PM |
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Shhhhhh.... |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 04:33 PM |
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Moving up the media food chain |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 04:36 PM |
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So Bev |
supercrash |
Jul-08-03 05:02 PM |
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Not Bev, but.... |
DEMActivist |
Jul-08-03 05:15 PM |
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Exactly... |
deseo |
Jul-08-03 06:30 PM |
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SCOOP.NZ HAS BEEN SLASHDOTTED!!!!!! |
Walt Starr |
Jul-08-03 04:38 PM |
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A little perspective |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 04:39 PM |
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I'll second that - great summary post! |
Pobeka |
Jul-08-03 06:27 PM |
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You're right! |
truth2power |
Jul-08-03 07:07 PM |
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It does explain a lot |
dusty64 |
Jul-08-03 09:32 PM |
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Does Cali have black box voting.... |
Nazgul35 |
Jul-08-03 04:46 PM |
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Yes |
hunter |
Jul-08-03 05:40 PM |
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Kick |
zekeson |
Jul-08-03 04:53 PM |
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A Big Kick |
TNOE |
Jul-08-03 04:55 PM |
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that slashdot thread.... |
grasswire |
Jul-08-03 05:05 PM |
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Congrats, Bev! |
tjdee |
Jul-08-03 05:25 PM |
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Having trouble bringing up the Scoop site |
Dover |
Jul-08-03 05:29 PM |
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Busy, busy, busy...try here |
DEMActivist |
Jul-08-03 05:31 PM |
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Thanks!........ |
Dover |
Jul-08-03 06:01 PM |
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Thanks from Johnson County KS-home of the shining new machines! |
MidwestMomma |
Jul-08-03 06:10 PM |
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Logged, I will put those files on my server as well |
JCMach1 |
Jul-08-03 06:17 PM |
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Bev, I will also keep them filed away and make them |
JCMach1 |
Jul-08-03 06:21 PM |
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It is up at radio free nation!! |
alfredo |
Jul-08-03 06:19 PM |
#140 |
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I believe the atmosphere is right now for this to really get legs. |
madfloridian |
Jul-08-03 06:37 PM |
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I'm glad to see this out, but |
dusty64 |
Jul-08-03 07:28 PM |
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I've watched Scoop pretty carefully for 9 months. He's no dummy |
BevHarris |
Jul-08-03 10:35 PM |
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It does seem like the harris |
dusty64 |
Jul-09-03 07:18 AM |
#180 |
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Thanks for your work, Bev. |
ih8thegop |
Jul-08-03 07:50 PM |
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Definitely |
Eloriel |
Jul-08-03 08:55 PM |
#161 |
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Thanks so much, Bev! |
Vadem |
Jul-08-03 09:08 PM |
#162 |
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kicking |
ibegurpard |
Jul-08-03 10:35 PM |
#166 |
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I'm having a major tinfoil attack here. |
ibegurpard |
Jul-08-03 11:13 PM |
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Niger claims have been building up sometime ... |
white_rider |
Jul-08-03 11:21 PM |
#168 |
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You can try.... |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-09-03 12:13 AM |
#171 |
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Hmmm ... perhaps Diebold should have used LASsie? |
white_rider |
Jul-09-03 01:37 AM |
#174 |
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ROFLMAO! Are you trying to tell me.... |
ParanoidPat |
Jul-09-03 01:49 AM |
#176 |
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the attempted recall of cal. governor gray davis |
Insider |
Jul-08-03 11:32 PM |
#169 |
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Bev have you seen this story yet? Just picked it up in LBN and don't |
Dover |
Jul-09-03 01:54 AM |
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Kick |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-09-03 03:59 AM |
#179 |
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kick |
donsu |
Jul-09-03 01:55 PM |
#183 |