| 124. If they are accomplices what makes you think they |
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are helping the Iraqies now?
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| -defending Starpass, and supporting Iraqi resistance.... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:07 PM |
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you have NO IDEA what a MIND READER YOU ARE!! |
matcom |
Nov-04-03 07:09 PM |
#1 |
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the moral dillemma we are placed in (thanks to Bush)... |
arcane1 |
Nov-04-03 07:10 PM |
#2 |
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Or as Rumsfield said |
Maple |
Nov-04-03 07:10 PM |
#3 |
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No, they didn't. |
RC |
Nov-04-03 07:16 PM |
#14 |
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It is no surprise in America |
Maple |
Nov-04-03 07:19 PM |
#22 |
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Saddam Hussein and those who support him are not the good guys |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:12 PM |
#4 |
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Who are you |
Maple |
Nov-04-03 07:15 PM |
#11 |
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And the Iraqis got a say about Hussein's government how? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:18 PM |
#16 |
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and the Iraqis got a say about Bremer's government how? |
thebigidea |
Nov-04-03 07:19 PM |
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they didn't, and that's why I agree with DK |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:22 PM |
#29 |
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It's not up to you to decide |
Maple |
Nov-04-03 07:22 PM |
#27 |
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Is it up the to Kurds? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:29 PM |
#39 |
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If the blanks didn't like blank, they could have ousted him. |
leanings |
Nov-04-03 07:40 PM |
#64 |
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You forgot to add Bush - A,mericans |
Solomon |
Nov-05-03 09:51 AM |
#209 |
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Saddam would have been easy? |
Wellong |
Nov-04-03 07:48 PM |
#80 |
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You have a point. We have a bogus "president" who was not elected, |
karlschneider |
Nov-04-03 07:58 PM |
#102 |
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So you are in favor of imposing democracy |
Eloriel |
Nov-04-03 07:41 PM |
#66 |
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Who made Iraq a nation? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:46 PM |
#77 |
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No we favor ignoring them unless they threaten us. |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:02 PM |
#108 |
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We weren't ignoring him, that's the problem |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 08:07 PM |
#115 |
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If they are accomplices what makes you think they |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:17 PM |
#124 |
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stop letting the Republicans define this okay? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 08:39 PM |
#137 |
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and I didn't make the democrats let the repukes define this |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:49 PM |
#141 |
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So was I, and now I'm against the occupation |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 08:52 PM |
#143 |
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Britain made Iraq a nation - not Hussein |
Scott Lee |
Nov-04-03 08:04 PM |
#111 |
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of course |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 08:50 PM |
#142 |
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If we want to get technical |
Wellong |
Nov-04-03 07:50 PM |
#86 |
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I do remember hearing that argument made quite eloquently... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 08:08 PM |
#116 |
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That's not getting technical...it's being 100% wrong! |
RapidCreek |
Nov-05-03 09:14 AM |
#206 |
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Dupe |
RapidCreek |
Nov-05-03 09:17 AM |
#207 |
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Our government recognized Hussein's reign as legitimate. |
Isome |
Nov-04-03 11:22 PM |
#161 |
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OK, using that strategy, you would have fought Japan |
Muddleoftheroad |
Nov-04-03 11:31 PM |
#162 |
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that's neither what I said, nor in any way relevant.... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:16 PM |
#12 |
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and the reasons for war are irrelevant |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:19 PM |
#19 |
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I don't think we have an obligation to impose democracy on the Iraqies |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 07:57 PM |
#99 |
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of course Bush wants to replace Hussein with a pro-US dictator |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 08:04 PM |
#112 |
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So we are supposed to support Bush replacing Hussien with another |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:11 PM |
#117 |
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Well, there were no Democrats in 1776. Just a lot of really pissed off |
karlschneider |
Nov-04-03 07:25 PM |
#31 |
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Outside interference |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:37 PM |
#58 |
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What planet have you been on...? |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 07:33 PM |
#50 |
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Earth! You know the one |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-04-03 07:39 PM |
#60 |
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Maybe the US should STOP meddling in other country's INTERNAL affairs |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 10:54 PM |
#150 |
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let's read what you wrote |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-05-03 01:45 AM |
#167 |
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Where two are fighting, is one good and the other bad? |
rman |
Nov-05-03 03:05 AM |
#182 |
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logical fallacy: "false dilemma" |
rman |
Nov-05-03 03:09 AM |
#186 |
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logical fallacy: "strawman" |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-05-03 09:57 AM |
#211 |
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When will you ever learn? |
DealsGapRider |
Nov-04-03 07:12 PM |
#5 |
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oh? |
thebigidea |
Nov-04-03 07:14 PM |
#8 |
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For starters... |
DealsGapRider |
Nov-04-03 07:17 PM |
#15 |
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Our troops are not the good guys? |
Nlighten1 |
Nov-04-03 07:16 PM |
#13 |
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would you use that argument to oppose fighting foreign... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:20 PM |
#25 |
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they only did as they were told.. |
frylock |
Nov-04-03 07:22 PM |
#28 |
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I take it neither of you have been in the military. |
Nlighten1 |
Nov-04-03 07:34 PM |
#55 |
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I'm probably a bit out of the discussion loop here, just got back from |
karlschneider |
Nov-04-03 07:53 PM |
#92 |
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well, it seems you either know FAR more about what's really... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:18 PM |
#18 |
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Right, because anyone who doesn't view the people killing our troops... |
DealsGapRider |
Nov-04-03 07:26 PM |
#33 |
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is that all it's about for you? votes? |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:29 PM |
#38 |
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No, that's fairly low on the totem pole. |
DealsGapRider |
Nov-04-03 07:32 PM |
#49 |
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you consider it morally repugnant for Iraqi's to defend their... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:41 PM |
#67 |
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No, I consider your position morally repugnant |
DealsGapRider |
Nov-04-03 07:47 PM |
#78 |
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whew |
thebigidea |
Nov-04-03 07:50 PM |
#87 |
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Right. |
DealsGapRider |
Nov-04-03 07:56 PM |
#96 |
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so now I love the enemy, huh? With us or against us, I guess. |
thebigidea |
Nov-04-03 07:58 PM |
#100 |
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when did you start thinking of the Iraqi people as "the enemy?" |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 08:06 PM |
#113 |
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Right turn! |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 11:02 PM |
#156 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-04-03 11:01 PM |
#155 |
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And I don't think ... |
Isome |
Nov-04-03 11:35 PM |
#163 |
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Spot on post. |
betio |
Nov-04-03 07:43 PM |
#71 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-04-03 07:50 PM |
#88 |
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One thing that gets lost |
bushwentawol |
Nov-04-03 07:13 PM |
#6 |
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Agreed on Saudi Arabia. |
DealsGapRider |
Nov-04-03 07:15 PM |
#9 |
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Understanding Vs. Sentiment |
Beetwasher |
Nov-04-03 07:13 PM |
#7 |
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And here's the problem |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 07:15 PM |
#10 |
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calling me out? |
matcom |
Nov-04-03 07:18 PM |
#17 |
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I'm replying to your response in this thread |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 07:19 PM |
#20 |
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Hello? |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 07:27 PM |
#35 |
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Let us utilize come history... |
FAndy9 |
Nov-04-03 07:47 PM |
#79 |
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De que parte de Argentina sos? |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 10:56 PM |
#151 |
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excellent insight, merits some wider consideration |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 02:02 AM |
#171 |
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Yuo see in this you are blaming the correct |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 02:25 AM |
#178 |
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eh? |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 02:52 AM |
#181 |
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Yes, the secret police deserved blame |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 03:05 AM |
#183 |
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sweetie, you must need one of those lattes |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 03:33 AM |
#188 |
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Thank you, Will |
missb |
Nov-04-03 07:19 PM |
#21 |
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while all of that might be true, it's the troops, not the leaders... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:27 PM |
#34 |
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Straw man |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 07:30 PM |
#40 |
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then why should Iraqis? |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:32 PM |
#46 |
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Very much so |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:34 PM |
#54 |
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The Iraqis can and should fight for what they believe in |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 07:35 PM |
#56 |
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this isn't about "what they believe in," Will.... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:39 PM |
#62 |
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They have that right |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 07:43 PM |
#68 |
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that's intellectually dishonest.... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:48 PM |
#82 |
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I think it is quite clear that those of us |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:50 PM |
#89 |
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Justice |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 07:56 PM |
#98 |
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do you think the forcible, violent occupation of Iraq is just? |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 08:02 PM |
#107 |
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So because it is unjust we should cheer American soldiers |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-04-03 11:11 PM |
#159 |
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Because someone will not stand with you and cheer when people die |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-04-03 11:13 PM |
#160 |
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The left has a very nasty |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:31 PM |
#44 |
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not to put to sharp a point on it, but... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:36 PM |
#57 |
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Again you are confusing Apples and Oranges |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:44 PM |
#73 |
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Oh really? |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 11:01 PM |
#154 |
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Just like Nam |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 01:46 AM |
#168 |
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Will you support the troops when they shoot their officers? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Nov-05-03 02:17 AM |
#175 |
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seems easily solved |
iverglas |
Nov-04-03 08:01 PM |
#105 |
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OYe My father was in Viet Nam too. |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:06 PM |
#114 |
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They will use it again |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:16 PM |
#123 |
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Cointelpro was probably responsible for alot of obnoxiousness in the 60s |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:20 PM |
#127 |
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I agree it seems today |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:42 PM |
#140 |
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MY FATHER GOT SPAT ON |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-04-03 08:21 PM |
#128 |
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Who did it? where did this happen? and when did it happen? |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:25 PM |
#129 |
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really, thats disgusting... |
bpilgrim |
Nov-04-03 09:01 PM |
#145 |
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You'd think that... |
newyorican |
Nov-04-03 08:34 PM |
#135 |
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I think many vets felt abused for having been sent there |
Classical_Liberal |
Nov-04-03 08:40 PM |
#138 |
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Spat On? PROVE IT!!! |
St_Just |
Nov-05-03 05:53 AM |
#195 |
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It happened. |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-05-03 07:45 AM |
#202 |
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what do you want? DNA evidence? full color video? DISPROVE IT! |
DS1 |
Nov-05-03 09:39 AM |
#208 |
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There is no defense of wishing harm on American soldiers |
DoubleYellowDog |
Nov-04-03 07:20 PM |
#23 |
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wishing harm on anyone |
G_j |
Nov-04-03 07:32 PM |
#47 |
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reread my post-- I didn't "wish harm" on anyone... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:54 PM |
#94 |
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didn't say you did |
G_j |
Nov-04-03 08:02 PM |
#109 |
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thanks for clarifying that. |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 08:12 PM |
#118 |
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if wishes were horses |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 02:15 AM |
#174 |
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Nuremberg, a soldier's duty, and defending the country |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 07:20 PM |
#24 |
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Here is the trick |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:28 PM |
#36 |
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Should a soldier obey an order to harm your child? |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 07:34 PM |
#53 |
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That would be clearly an ilegal order |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:39 PM |
#61 |
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And it was an illegal order to invade Iraq |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 07:44 PM |
#72 |
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If only it were that simple. |
Nlighten1 |
Nov-04-03 07:48 PM |
#81 |
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Yes, it is exactly that simple. |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 07:56 PM |
#97 |
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Your example is flawed as it falls |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:13 PM |
#119 |
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I do not agree that it is legal to shoot an Iraqi child but not American |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 08:29 PM |
#134 |
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Read bellow about the Geneva Convention |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:41 PM |
#139 |
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Under strict definion of the law the order |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:49 PM |
#84 |
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And that same legality covers the soldier's order to harm your child |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 07:52 PM |
#91 |
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I wish it was that simple |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:54 PM |
#95 |
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It is as simple as whether the soldier shoots your child, or does not |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 08:01 PM |
#106 |
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Read above |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:15 PM |
#121 |
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I think you mean illegal if it's YOUR child, but legal if it;s an Iraqi |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 08:26 PM |
#131 |
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No I mean it in the true meaning of the UCMJ |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:37 PM |
#136 |
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I'm sure you will forgive me for not returning your ad hom |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 08:55 PM |
#144 |
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Yuo are simplifhying |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 09:07 PM |
#146 |
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It is not I who simplifies, but the child and the gun, and I see your |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-04-03 09:19 PM |
#147 |
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I sugest you read the Geneva Convention |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 01:38 AM |
#166 |
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the best way to support the troops is to hope and pray, if you pray |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-05-03 01:54 AM |
#169 |
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Sorry but you are making the |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 02:01 AM |
#170 |
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While I am not able to respond to personal attacks, I think you forgot |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-05-03 02:09 AM |
#173 |
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You know what you perceive as hositility is not hostility |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 02:17 AM |
#176 |
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I wonder if you are confusing me with someone else? |
DuctapeFatwa |
Nov-05-03 02:32 AM |
#179 |
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heh ... you 'n me both |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 03:07 AM |
#184 |
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No I am not |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 03:08 AM |
#185 |
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you'll admit that the Iraqis are in the right, but you still oppose... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:59 PM |
#104 |
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I am not oposing their right to |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:14 PM |
#120 |
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Why? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Nov-05-03 06:43 AM |
#197 |
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agreed, 100 percent. |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 07:30 PM |
#43 |
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You have never served I take it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:32 PM |
#48 |
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Do the troops know that they can refuse ? |
DUreader |
Nov-04-03 07:21 PM |
#26 |
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Many have applied for |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:28 PM |
#37 |
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Conscientious objector status is extremely difficult |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-05-03 07:50 AM |
#203 |
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Look people |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:25 PM |
#30 |
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and would you arguethat troops invading America also... |
mike_c |
Nov-04-03 08:16 PM |
#122 |
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I already told you |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:19 PM |
#126 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-04-03 07:25 PM |
#32 |
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Oh really? In what way? |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 07:30 PM |
#41 |
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don't interupt him when he's going off like this |
Aidoneus |
Nov-04-03 07:33 PM |
#52 |
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Do you hate the military |
jiacinto |
Nov-04-03 07:40 PM |
#63 |
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you already used that line |
thebigidea |
Nov-04-03 07:43 PM |
#69 |
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may I ask |
iverglas |
Nov-04-03 07:46 PM |
#76 |
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Its not about "hating" a specific organization.... |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 10:52 PM |
#149 |
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deleted |
Zhade |
Nov-05-03 04:17 AM |
#191 |
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Damned dupe.... |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 07:30 PM |
#42 |
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Folks...you have a VOLUNTEER military now.... |
Maple |
Nov-04-03 07:31 PM |
#45 |
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And yuor point is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 07:38 PM |
#59 |
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good grief |
iverglas |
Nov-04-03 07:52 PM |
#90 |
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Here are your answers |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:26 PM |
#130 |
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uh huh ... and OJ Simpson |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 02:36 AM |
#180 |
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Sorry but this is not waht I am gettng from many a posts |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 03:16 AM |
#187 |
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lessons of history |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 04:04 AM |
#189 |
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That sweetie is NOT what I am reading |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 04:13 AM |
#190 |
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getting a clue |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 04:30 AM |
#192 |
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Then stay out of this one |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 04:54 AM |
#193 |
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Quite simply |
Spentastic |
Nov-05-03 05:34 AM |
#194 |
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there are ways of critizing, and then there are ways |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-03 06:05 AM |
#196 |
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I'm just curious |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 06:46 AM |
#198 |
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Here are your answers |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-04-03 08:26 PM |
#132 |
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Does that mean they aren't our sons and daughters anymore? nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-05-03 07:52 AM |
#204 |
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I respectfully agree |
Warren Stuart |
Nov-04-03 07:43 PM |
#70 |
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then please go enlist then |
ithacan |
Nov-04-03 07:45 PM |
#74 |
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you aren't wrong. |
enki23 |
Nov-04-03 07:33 PM |
#51 |
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risking repeating myself |
iverglas |
Nov-04-03 07:41 PM |
#65 |
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good one |
G_j |
Nov-04-03 07:49 PM |
#85 |
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Ta! and may I recommend post 79 |
iverglas |
Nov-05-03 02:08 AM |
#172 |
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interesting post with the typical patriotically correct knee jerk |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-04-03 07:45 PM |
#75 |
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Simplistic much? |
gulliver |
Nov-04-03 07:49 PM |
#83 |
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Please... |
FAndy9 |
Nov-04-03 07:58 PM |
#103 |
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Inflammatory - and right on the money |
Scott Lee |
Nov-04-03 07:53 PM |
#93 |
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Since I seem to be part of this thread I thought I would jump into the pit |
Starpass |
Nov-04-03 07:58 PM |
#101 |
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I agree Starpass |
FAndy9 |
Nov-04-03 08:03 PM |
#110 |
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I'm just not sure |
G_j |
Nov-04-03 08:19 PM |
#125 |
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What you've got to ask yourself is... |
DrWeird |
Nov-04-03 08:26 PM |
#133 |
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Great post....right on the money. |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 10:51 PM |
#148 |
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Words from the White Rose |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-05-03 06:52 AM |
#199 |
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it is our duty for those who see it this way to pass the word... |
bpilgrim |
Nov-05-03 09:56 AM |
#210 |
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I will not support the killing of Americans by anyone!!!!!!!! n/t |
squanto |
Nov-04-03 10:57 PM |
#152 |
| -
How about invading countries....? |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 11:04 PM |
#157 |
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I don't care what you think |
squanto |
Nov-05-03 12:12 AM |
#164 |
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a perfect example of why we have wars |
thebigidea |
Nov-05-03 12:16 AM |
#165 |
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Yes we are the aggrssor nation |
Clark Can WIN |
Nov-04-03 10:58 PM |
#153 |
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That is why.... |
kalian |
Nov-04-03 11:05 PM |
#158 |
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Extremely well said. |
neuvocat |
Nov-05-03 02:21 AM |
#177 |
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"I cannot cheer for someone who kills my neighbors children" |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-05-03 08:06 AM |
#205 |
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I CONCUR! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Nov-05-03 07:28 AM |
#200 |
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I simply wonder sometimes |
G_j |
Nov-05-03 07:41 AM |
#201 |
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