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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 08:32 PM
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47. Howard Dean is certainly focused on defeating bush*
and he is running against the others. Let's face it, they all have different ideas as to how they will win the nomination and the Presidency.

Frankly I find the criticism of Dean's supporters a bit puzzling. I would think that we in this party would be ecstatic at the fact that a candidate has energized a very large group of voters. Especially from the ranks who have felt left out, ignored, or who just never cared before this. I meet people all the time who are enthused not only for the candidate but for the fact that they are feeling empowered again, and want to participate in the process...people who truly want to change the direction of our country.

Perhaps the discussions here do get a bit over the top. I have pretty much stayed out of them until lately, when the Dean bashing just got to be too much.

Dean has been criticizing * from day one. He was/is usually the first out with statements, and the others follow. He has aggressively said the things that need to be said against the * Iraq policies. If that is a bad thing, and Dean's just too "mean", and he's not nice to the other candidates, then we might as well all stay home in 2004.

We will NOT beat Rove by being nice guys. Those days are over. We need toughness, courage, determination, clarity, and the ability to motivate voters. Howard Dean has what it takes, and he is very right about one thing....WE have the power.

WE damn well better use it.



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  -Prime Example of Why I Support HOWARD DEAN newsguyatl  Jul-22-03 07:16 PM   #0 
  - ATTENTION ALL CANDIDATES WHO VOTED FOR THE RESOLUTION  blm   Jul-22-03 07:24 PM   #1 
  - I respectfully  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-22-03 07:26 PM   #3 
  - Dean is certainly committed to the low road.  chimpymustgo   Jul-22-03 07:27 PM   #4 
  - Oh, please, people  Eloriel   Jul-22-03 07:30 PM   #7 
  - What the fuck are you talking about?  haymaker   Jul-22-03 07:34 PM   #8 
  - Yes! Dean will "last" and why don't you go start a John Edwards  zidzi   Jul-22-03 07:39 PM   #15 
  - Chimpy is still hopping in on Dean threads to dis him.  madfloridian   Jul-22-03 08:36 PM   #50 
  - Biden Lugar...  killbotfactory   Jul-22-03 07:58 PM   #36 
     - WELL, DUH...  blm   Jul-22-03 08:13 PM   # 
        - Bush never presented evidence that Iraq was a threat to the US  killbotfactory   Jul-22-03 08:27 PM   #45 
           - You DON'T get it?  blm   Jul-22-03 08:32 PM   #48 
              - And Dean would have said no to war...  killbotfactory   Jul-22-03 08:35 PM   #49 
                 - No..if Biden-Lugar had passed....  blm   Jul-22-03 08:37 PM   #52 
  - And this is why I DONT like Dean that much:  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:24 PM   #2 
  - You made some good points  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-22-03 07:27 PM   #5 
  - If the Dems want to win,  haymaker   Jul-22-03 07:38 PM   #12 
  - I lose more respect for the Dean crowd daily.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:42 PM   #18 
  - yeah  newsguyatl   Jul-22-03 07:47 PM   #23 
  - GO NEWSGUY!! Yeah! We don't take Shit is Right!  zidzi   Jul-22-03 07:51 PM   #27 
  - The lack of reasoned discourse is telling.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:55 PM   #32 
     - Oh whoa, oh whoa  haymaker   Jul-22-03 07:58 PM   #38 
     - Na na na na boo boo....  PassingFair   Jul-22-03 10:07 PM   #65 
  - I didn't say him...  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:51 PM   #28 
  - Oh, but won't you vote for Dean in the general?  tjdee   Jul-23-03 12:59 AM   #71 
  - Its amazing the kind of people he has supporting him  ldf   Jul-22-03 07:50 PM   #26 
  - The pantywastes you support  haymaker   Jul-22-03 07:52 PM   #29 
  - Actually im undecided.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:58 PM   #35 
  - Coming from you ...I am flattered!  zidzi   Jul-22-03 07:58 PM   #37 
  - I guess you forget that these candidates are running  sfecap   Jul-22-03 08:00 PM   #39 
  - I dont think you see my point here.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 08:13 PM   #42 
     - Howard Dean is certainly focused on defeating bush*  sfecap   Jul-22-03 08:32 PM   #47 
     - Dean capitalizing on "Bush on the ropes"  Eloriel   Jul-22-03 08:43 PM   #54 
        - Yes, Eloriel, Dean has done well, here.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 09:16 PM   #58 
           - No, just seemingly trying to bash a stereotype of Dean supporters  MrsGrumpy   Jul-22-03 09:22 PM   #61 
  - Yeah, like me an average everyday wife and mother who sees through  MrsGrumpy   Jul-22-03 09:21 PM   #59 
  - Come on BigGuy.........  DagmarK   Jul-22-03 09:21 PM   #60 
  - YEAH! YOU GO HAYMAKER!! I SEE IT!!  zidzi   Jul-22-03 07:50 PM   #25 
  - If the Dems want to win  Rooktoven   Jul-22-03 11:31 PM   #67 
  - Dean is NOT running "against"  Mike_from_NoVa   Jul-22-03 07:39 PM   #14 
  - Well, since he already HAS y'all....  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:49 PM   #24 
     - Yeah, right ...whatever.  zidzi   Jul-22-03 07:54 PM   #30 
     - Please, don't let FACTS get in the way of your Dean bashing  SweetZombieJesus   Jul-22-03 07:57 PM   #33 
     - You don't write like a "college dropout"! That was an amazing  zidzi   Jul-22-03 08:28 PM   #46 
     - He may have US, but he doesn't have the nomination yet  Eloriel   Jul-22-03 08:15 PM   #44 
        - Yeah I am worried about that....  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 08:37 PM   # 
           - I dunno. Maybe you've never actually watched primaries unfold  Eloriel   Jul-22-03 08:52 PM   #55 
              - Thanks for the advice.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 09:00 PM   #56 
              - The "Third Man" was Daryl Jones! I like him, too. He is  zidzi   Jul-22-03 09:15 PM   #57 
  - except.....  Nazgul35   Jul-22-03 09:52 PM   #64 
  - haha  newsguyatl   Jul-22-03 07:29 PM   #6 
  - Agree  wtmusic   Jul-22-03 07:35 PM   #9 
  - yeah  newsguyatl   Jul-22-03 07:39 PM   #13 
  - Dean didn't have to vote. He's just yelling at everybody  chimpymustgo   Jul-22-03 07:37 PM   #11 
  - Kuchinic and Graham did  haymaker   Jul-22-03 07:40 PM   #16 
  - I also notice they are running against Bush.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:44 PM   #20 
     - So your petty little point about Dean  haymaker   Jul-22-03 07:57 PM   #34 
     - Yeah, the dem senatorial candidates HAVE to focus on Bush  DagmarK   Jul-22-03 09:38 PM   #62 
        - WELL said. n/t  Eloriel   Jul-23-03 12:16 AM   #70 
  - Good! I'm Glad "Dean is yelling at everybody" since  zidzi   Jul-22-03 07:47 PM   #22 
  - Perhaps you'd be more suited to a candidate like Daschle...  sfecap   Jul-22-03 08:09 PM   #41 
  - You don't want ideas and optimism -- you couldn't possibly  Eloriel   Jul-23-03 12:14 AM   #69 
  - are you more interested in defeating Bush or the Democrats?  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:40 PM   #17 
     - i'm interested in  newsguyatl   Jul-22-03 07:43 PM   #19 
     - so which is more important?  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 07:47 PM   #21 
        - This is what is important:  sfecap   Jul-22-03 08:06 PM   #40 
           - So beating Bush is #2, for you.  TheBigGuy   Jul-22-03 08:15 PM   #43 
           - Nope, you don't get it...  sfecap   Jul-22-03 08:37 PM   #51 
     - I want to defeat Bush and SOME Dems  Sterling   Jul-22-03 08:43 PM   #53 
     - Dean or Green.... Arrrgggghh  Rooktoven   Jul-22-03 11:41 PM   #68 
     - biggguy.......life is not single-faceted.......sorry to burst your bubble.  DagmarK   Jul-22-03 09:50 PM   #63 
  - Thanks for this report, newsguyatl...I "get it" just fine!!  zidzi   Jul-22-03 07:35 PM   #10 
  - i dunno, perhaps chimpy and the big guy  newsguyatl   Jul-22-03 07:54 PM   #31 
     - Ain't it grand?  Eloriel   Jul-22-03 10:21 PM   #66 
        - thank you!  whirlygigspin   Jul-23-03 01:27 AM   #72 
 

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