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28. Its not too far left, its just empty
These quotes do nothing more than point out that America has an inequitable distribution of wealth. They do not specify solutions. As the 30 years that followed MLK proved, solutions to problems are far more difficult find than words to describe them. The anti-poverty programs of the Johnson era proved to be a failure in the minds of many if not most Americans. Sure, its easy enough to transfer wealth from the rich to the poor and improved the standard of living of the poor, but that's not what most Americans consider success. Success is when poor people have the opportunity to work and earn enough money to support themselves without help from other people. That is how we generally define success here in America: the ability to support yourself and your family.

Americans wanted to see the problem solved, not the symptom treated. Simply transferring money to the poor wasn't accomplishing this. As we entered the 1990's, descriptions of 3rd generation welfare families convinced many people that the anti-poverty solutions enacted in the Johnson era were not working. They started to listen to Democrats such as Patrick Moynihan who had been telling us from the very beginning that the programs were flawed. Sure, they raised the standards of living of millions of poor people, but they did not address (in fact many argued they exacerbated) the causes of poverty: broken families, illiteracy, and crime. The result of this dissatisfaction was Welfare Reform, which irrefutably proved what many Americans had thought was true all along: millions on the welfare roles were perfectly capable of working, they simply chose not to.

If King's words were spoken today this is the history that would be flung back into the face of the speaker. Unless you can clearly articulate a plan that is radically different from what was tried before you will get nowhere. In King's day what was needed was a person to clearly articulate the problem. Today we need someone to clearly articulate the solution. With all due respect to Dr. King, the later is far more difficult.
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  -MLK quote: unacceptably far left? Iverson  Oct-31-03 05:41 AM   #0 
  - These words were never 'safe.'  dbt   Oct-31-03 05:48 AM   #1 
  - Thanks for posting this. eloquent.  loudnclear   Oct-31-03 06:00 AM   #3 
     - Exactly !!! - And BTW, When Did The Truth Become 'Far Left' ???  WillyT   Oct-31-03 06:07 AM   #5 
        - When lies become government policy.  baldguy   Oct-31-03 06:20 AM   #6 
           - True.  WillyT   Oct-31-03 06:23 AM   #7 
              - True  G_j   Oct-31-03 07:03 AM   #9 
  - No  La_Serpiente   Oct-31-03 05:59 AM   #2 
  - Remember that Paul Robeson thread?  Iverson   Oct-31-03 06:05 AM   #4 
     - Would someone re-post it or link to the Robeson statement, please  loudnclear   Nov-01-03 06:59 AM   #45 
        - Here you go!  prolesunited   Nov-01-03 08:53 AM   #47 
  - About as far left as Cuomo's...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-31-03 06:29 AM   #8 
  - I hope so too.  Iverson   Oct-31-03 07:17 AM   #10 
  - It's hard to admit that our country has been living a lie...  Q   Oct-31-03 07:27 AM   #11 
  - It sickens me...  Michael Harrington   Oct-31-03 07:34 AM   #12 
  - True.  JanMichael   Oct-31-03 08:33 AM   #17 
  - The truth is timeless  Lurking_Argyle   Oct-31-03 07:36 AM   #13 
  - It's the spirit we've lost  Armstead   Oct-31-03 07:39 AM   #14 
  - What is interesting to note  prolesunited   Oct-31-03 08:06 AM   #15 
  - Thanks...  SeattleRob   Oct-31-03 12:47 PM   #24 
  - I agree  prolesunited   Oct-31-03 01:07 PM   #27 
  - "He didn't become 'dangerous' til he started advocating social justice"  Mairead   Oct-31-03 12:54 PM   #26 
  - It seems as if we've been locked in time.  JanMichael   Oct-31-03 08:30 AM   #16 
  - a modest kick  Iverson   Oct-31-03 09:14 AM   #18 
  - and another  Iverson   Oct-31-03 12:13 PM   #19 
  - MLK wasn't a politician  sangh0   Oct-31-03 12:17 PM   #20 
  - sure, but how about the question of the thread.  Iverson   Oct-31-03 12:27 PM   #22 
     - Sure  sangh0   Oct-31-03 12:50 PM   #25 
  - Gotta read the 'Beyond Vietnam' speech too  htuttle   Oct-31-03 12:26 PM   #21 
  - a welcome quote  Iverson   Oct-31-03 12:28 PM   #23 
  - Its not too far left, its just empty  Nederland   Oct-31-03 01:13 PM   #28 
  - Not empty  Armstead   Oct-31-03 01:27 PM   #29 
  - There is a reason for this...  Nederland   Oct-31-03 01:42 PM   #30 
     - We need to be reminded  Armstead   Oct-31-03 02:19 PM   #33 
  - a curious response  Iverson   Oct-31-03 02:33 PM   #34 
  - Just answering the question...  Nederland   Oct-31-03 05:22 PM   #36 
  - The money wasn't transfered to the poor  SeattleRob   Oct-31-03 03:29 PM   #35 
  - Life After Vietnam  Nederland   Oct-31-03 05:32 PM   #37 
     - HUH?  camero   Nov-01-03 06:03 AM   #44 
  - Your analysis  kenzee13   Oct-31-03 06:02 PM   #39 
  - Looks fine to me.....  sgr2   Oct-31-03 02:07 PM   #31 
  - Cheer on the Vietnamese resistance...  Isome   Oct-31-03 05:38 PM   #38 
     - Yeah, I did, did you?  sgr2   Nov-01-03 07:00 AM   #46 
  - How about you speak the truth, and say to hell with whats "popular"  Selwynn   Oct-31-03 02:09 PM   #32 
  - If we had Democrats  kenzee13   Oct-31-03 06:09 PM   #40 
  - I liked this thread  prolesunited   Nov-01-03 12:39 AM   #41 
  - How can....  Ani Yun Wiya   Nov-01-03 01:42 AM   #42 
  - I am DYING for someone to speak truth like this without apology...  Selwynn   Nov-01-03 02:34 AM   #43 
  - Sunday morning kick  Iverson   Nov-02-03 05:20 AM   #48 
 

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