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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:13 AM
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129. As An Analyst And Not An Advocate
this in not a good development for Dean and the Democratic party...

No matter how true or untrue Sharpton's accusations are they will resonate with some African American voters

(and)

if Al Sharpton decides to run as a third party candidate a Bush reeelection is assured...

The politics of race are combustible....
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  -Sharpton Calls Dean's Agenda "Anti-Black" DoveTurnedHawk  Oct-29-03 01:36 AM   #0 
  - I'll see Wes's Al Sharpton and raise him a Jesse Jackson Jr.  Jim Sagle   Oct-29-03 01:38 AM   #1 
  - And Donna Brazile, Apparently  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 01:40 AM   #3 
  - The Real AL Sharpton emerges  Hep   Oct-29-03 08:04 AM   #158 
  - I don't think it's funny.......  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 01:46 AM   #9 
  - I'm for Affirmative Action  sandnsea   Oct-29-03 01:54 AM   #16 
  - Agree....  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 01:59 AM   #19 
     - You ain't lying n/t  NNN0LHI   Oct-29-03 02:37 AM   #57 
  - While I agree with Sharpton more than Dean in most instances  RapidCreek   Oct-29-03 05:22 AM   #117 
  - AA is not all about non caucasians..........  Cheswick   Oct-29-03 06:08 AM   #124 
  - Speak the truth and let the chips fall where they may.  loudnclear   Oct-29-03 06:32 AM   #140 
  - How can Al Sharpton support Clark after his support for bombing Vieques?  dkf   Oct-29-03 07:41 AM   #150 
     - Might as well quote the Moonie Times.  SahaleArm   Oct-29-03 07:48 AM   #152 
  - Holy. Fucking. Shit.  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 01:39 AM   #2 
  - I would've loved to see Dean respond by  pruner   Oct-29-03 01:45 AM   #7 
  - Why, would sharpton's comments about another subject....  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 01:50 AM   #13 
     - I was just kidding  pruner   Oct-29-03 02:00 AM   #20 
        - Well, why don't you explain Dean stance  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:06 AM   #22 
           - Dean's stance is that race should not be the ONLY factor  pruner   Oct-29-03 02:08 AM   #24 
              - In 1995, He Said Race Shouldn't Be a Factor at All  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:10 AM   #26 
              - What gives...cite the whole quote and you'll see  TLM   Oct-29-03 02:33 AM   #51 
                 - Why are you giving me Jackson's statement  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:46 AM   #68 
              - Are you kidding me? That 's your answer? No Text??????  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:14 AM   #29 
                 - Oh stop  Egnever   Oct-29-03 02:16 AM   #30 
                    - Dean doesn't believe in Race??????  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:18 AM   #32 
                    - nope  Egnever   Oct-29-03 02:24 AM   #38 
                       - well, well, well....  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:28 AM   #44 
                       - what? What kind of asshole claims to be colorblind?  Cheswick   Oct-29-03 06:10 AM   #126 
                       - Absolutely incorrect interpretation of Dean's stance  orangepeel68   Oct-29-03 06:12 AM   #128 
                    - So It's "Crap" If a Person of Color Is Concerned About Affirmative Action?  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:19 AM   #33 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 02:23 AM   #37 
                          - "Take the Chip Off Your Shoulder"  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:28 AM   #45 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 02:31 AM   #48 
                          - Wow are all the Clark folks going to post to this thread  TLM   Oct-29-03 02:39 AM   #62 
                          - Yeah that's no chip  TLM   Oct-29-03 02:37 AM   # 
                          - Who called Dean a racist????  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:30 AM   #46 
                             - Who called Dean a racist?  ryharrin   Oct-29-03 02:32 AM   #50 
                                - Al Sharpton Isn't Here on This Board for Egnever To Attack  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:39 AM   #60 
                                   - If you're agreeing with Sharpton's attack, you're  ryharrin   Oct-29-03 02:41 AM   #64 
                                      - You Obviously Missed My Post #2, at Least  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:43 AM   #66 
                                      - Ok, I did miss your post #2,  ryharrin   Oct-29-03 02:52 AM   #72 
                                      - Apology Accepted  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:55 AM   #75 
                                         - What exactly from Dean's history makes you think this?  ryharrin   Oct-29-03 03:26 AM   #95 
                                            - How Do You Know It's "Out of Context"  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 03:30 AM   #98 
                                            - Who has the historical grounding on this?  ryharrin   Oct-29-03 03:39 AM   #101 
                                            - No, I Think Quite a Few Candidates Have Better Grounding on Race Than Dean  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 03:44 AM   #105 
                                            - It seemed like you were saying that.  ryharrin   Oct-29-03 04:05 AM   #111 
                                            - Did you read jessie jackson jr's response?  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:39 AM   #102 
                                      - You really must think people here are stupid....  TLM   Oct-29-03 02:53 AM   #74 
                                      - I'll call him  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 02:45 AM   #67 
                                         - RIGHT ON!  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:48 AM   #70 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 02:56 AM   #76 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 03:02 AM   #81 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 03:10 AM   #84 
                                               - Except he didn't call Dean a racist.  SahaleArm   Oct-29-03 03:13 AM   #87 
                                               - I was talking more about the "white liberals" crap...  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:22 AM   #91 
                                               - You don't know many black people do you?  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 03:27 AM   #97 
                                               - mild race baiting is still race baiting....  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:54 AM   #108 
                                               - You're ignoring a basic disconnect.  SahaleArm   Oct-29-03 04:22 AM   #113 
                                               - I know a lot of black people  Hep   Oct-29-03 08:20 AM   #167 
                                            - Please stop calling me a "race baiter"  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 03:07 AM   #82 
                                               - I Have No Idea Who You're Responding To  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 03:13 AM   #86 
                                               - "TLM"  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 03:15 AM   #88 
                                               - Puke  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 03:23 AM   #93 
                                               - Does he point out how the crack about white liberals isn't race baiting  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:32 AM   #99 
                                               - Again with the race baiting....  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:27 AM   #96 
                                               - Then please stop race baiting...  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:20 AM   #90 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 03:22 AM   #92 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 03:37 AM   #100 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 03:42 AM   #104 
                                                  - I haven't put you on yet...  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:55 AM   #109 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 03:47 AM   #106 
                                                  - Does anybody not consider sharpton a race baiter?  TLM   Oct-29-03 04:01 AM   #110 
  - They will gain traction  Hep   Oct-29-03 08:06 AM   #160 
  - Oh geez  La_Serpiente   Oct-29-03 01:41 AM   #4 
  - Sharpton is NOT a friend of Democrats  birdman   Oct-29-03 01:44 AM   #5 
  - So again, we go after the messenger....  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 01:53 AM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 01:45 AM   #6 
  - He's been pulling this same shit in NY for years  birdman   Oct-29-03 01:49 AM   #12 
     - Birdman.....  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 01:57 AM   #18 
        - He's exactly the same as he was yesterday  birdman   Oct-29-03 02:07 AM   #23 
           - I know all about the demonizing of Al Sharpton  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:17 AM   #31 
              - Me too  Egnever   Oct-29-03 02:22 AM   #36 
              - Could you be a dear  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:52 AM   #73 
              - You mean the Tawana Brawley thing never happened ?  birdman   Oct-29-03 02:24 AM   #40 
                 - can you tell me when that was?  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:32 AM   #49 
                    - 1987-88  birdman   Oct-29-03 02:34 AM   #53 
                       - What was Dean doing in 1988?  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:39 AM   #61 
                          - That has nothing to do with Dean  birdman   Oct-29-03 02:41 AM   #65 
                             - So let me get this straight......Shartpon is a crook now?  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:56 AM   #77 
                                - He's never been anything else  birdman   Oct-29-03 03:01 AM   #79 
  - Then there are the last two graphs of the article...  marcopolo   Oct-29-03 01:45 AM   #8 
  - Hi marcopolo!!  newyawker99   Oct-29-03 07:52 AM   #153 
  - This guy's a loon  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-29-03 01:46 AM   #10 
  - I have a feeling  La_Serpiente   Oct-29-03 01:47 AM   #11 
  - it just did...  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:05 AM   #21 
  - I wish he didn't have to go there  wtmusic   Oct-29-03 01:53 AM   #15 
  - Can you please explain your rational for  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:12 AM   #27 
     - I would say Al's the one...  fujiyama   Oct-29-03 02:26 AM   #42 
        - Race baiting???  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:37 AM   #56 
  - Some Things To Consider  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 01:56 AM   #17 
  - Dean is a supporter of AA... a vocal supporter  TLM   Oct-29-03 02:12 AM   #28 
  - Dean is in trouble  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 02:09 AM   #25 
  - Sure is odd how the people pushing this all seem to be  TLM   Oct-29-03 02:20 AM   #34 
     - Maybe it's because some of those "Clark corps"  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 02:24 AM   #39 
     - Me Too  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:27 AM   #43 
     - I still think hes great!  Egnever   Oct-29-03 02:30 AM   #47 
     - You mean it's okay to make racial accusations that aren't true ?  birdman   Oct-29-03 02:37 AM   #58 
     - Nope the attacs is baseless and flase...that won't stop the Clark Corps  TLM   Oct-29-03 03:01 AM   #80 
     - Such desperate race baiting is so transparant...  TLM   Oct-29-03 02:47 AM   #69 
     - Thank you....  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 03:09 AM   #83 
        - "Color Blind," Ugh, I Want To Puke  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 03:11 AM   #85 
           - Wow  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 06:35 AM   #143 
              - Exactly  Hep   Oct-29-03 08:09 AM   #161 
     - I a  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 02:24 AM   #41 
        - I addressed the issue  Hep   Oct-29-03 08:12 AM   #162 
  - Sharpton's not as mad at Dean as he is mad at JJ and JJJ  dkf   Oct-29-03 02:21 AM   #35 
  - Al & Jesse remain respectful of each other.  Isome   Oct-29-03 02:34 AM   #52 
  - I think Dean wants to EXPAND and BROADEN AA to INCLUDE  Jim Sagle   Oct-29-03 02:35 AM   #54 
  - "NOT on race but on class"  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:37 AM   #55 
  - What people are missing.  SahaleArm   Oct-29-03 02:48 AM   #71 
  - Great point  Bertrand   Oct-29-03 02:57 AM   #78 
  - But Jim  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 03:17 AM   #89 
  - Anyone have the transcript of the 1995 interview?  marcopolo   Oct-29-03 02:38 AM   #59 
  - Wow, A Fair Statement!  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 02:40 AM   #63 
  - Do you REALLY  DannyRed   Oct-29-03 03:40 AM   #103 
     - People Here Criticize Clark All the Time for Being a  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-29-03 03:47 AM   #107 
  - Yes, Please located it for us.....  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-29-03 03:26 AM   #94 
     - I need lexis/nexis...  marcopolo   Oct-29-03 05:18 AM   #116 
  - Dean is getting back what he's giving, and we all lose  Democat   Oct-29-03 04:07 AM   #112 
  - um, so does this mean  JNelson6563   Oct-29-03 04:49 AM   #114 
  - Sharpton has also criticized other candidates  JaneQPublic   Oct-29-03 05:06 AM   #115 
  - Doesn't look good for Sharpton  CWebster   Oct-29-03 05:42 AM   #118 
  - Indeed  RogueTrooper   Oct-29-03 05:48 AM   #120 
  - this is not good  liberalcapitalist   Oct-29-03 05:46 AM   #119 
  - Rep. Jesse L. Jackson's response to the attack from Rev. Al Sharpton  w4rma   Oct-29-03 05:53 AM   #121 
  - Rep. Major Owens responds to the attack from Rev. Al Sharpton  w4rma   Oct-29-03 05:55 AM   #122 
  - Clark's worst liability is his supporters  CWebster   Oct-29-03 06:01 AM   #123 
  - I agree. He is much more progressive then his supporters.  jonnyblitz   Oct-29-03 06:08 AM   #125 
  - It is tough to be sure because Clark has no record.  JVS   Oct-29-03 08:13 AM   #163 
  - You should worry about your own...  SahaleArm   Oct-29-03 06:11 AM   #127 
     - I also noticed  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 06:15 AM   #130 
     - Hey  CWebster   Oct-29-03 06:24 AM   #132 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 06:27 AM   #134 
           - Noticed that you ignored Jackson's statements altogether  CWebster   Oct-29-03 06:33 AM   #141 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 06:23 AM   #131 
        - Please enlighten me  incapsulated   Oct-29-03 06:24 AM   #133 
        - the statement from Jackson  CWebster   Oct-29-03 06:29 AM   #136 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 06:34 AM   #142 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-03 07:59 AM   #156 
        - Ignore it and it will go away?  SahaleArm   Oct-29-03 06:28 AM   #135 
           - Suggest you heed your own advice.  CWebster   Oct-29-03 06:29 AM   #137 
              - Where have I attacked the person?  SahaleArm   Oct-29-03 06:31 AM   #139 
  - As An Analyst And Not An Advocate  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 06:13 AM   #129 
  - this borders on irrelevant  Mike_from_NoVa   Oct-29-03 08:23 AM   #169 
  - Will he drop out already  Kamika   Oct-29-03 06:31 AM   #138 
  - Why Should He Drop Out?  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 06:58 AM   #145 
  - Sharpton was an FBI informant  IndianaGreen   Oct-29-03 06:40 AM   #144 
  - Sharpton has done some very terrible  messiah   Oct-29-03 07:15 AM   #147 
     - I would hope that there is a better explanation....  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 07:19 AM   #148 
        - Probably not  messiah   Oct-29-03 07:25 AM   #149 
           - Sad....  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 07:42 AM   #151 
              - "he right wing media is always looking ..."  CWebster   Oct-29-03 07:52 AM   #154 
                 - I Was Referring To Stuff Like  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 08:00 AM   #157 
  - How Come Al Sharpton Was Almost Everybody's Darling On This Board  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 07:07 AM   #146 
  - How is criticizing Sharpton an attack on African Americans ?  birdman   Oct-29-03 08:05 AM   #159 
     - Did I Say Attacking Al Sharpton Was The Same As Attacking African  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 08:19 AM   #166 
  - I've liked Sharpton's contribution to this campaign until now  CMT   Oct-29-03 07:59 AM   #155 
  - Did You See Bolwling For Columbine?  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-03 08:15 AM   #165 
  - Here's the non-racial aspect about this that's bothering me  khephra   Oct-29-03 08:15 AM   #164 
  - This thread can't be saved.  Skinner   Oct-29-03 08:23 AM   #168 
  - This is directed at everyone posting here arguing over this  KaraokeKarlton   Oct-29-03 08:32 AM   #170 
 

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