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Tue Oct-28-03 04:46 PM
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| 17. Actually, that question was directed at Bombtrack |
| -What would it take for American-style capitalism/socialism to work? |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 03:56 PM |
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Get rid of "american" style capitalism alltogether (nt) |
Selwynn |
Oct-28-03 04:02 PM |
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At least make sure there's an inheritance tax. |
Tansy_Gold |
Oct-28-03 04:08 PM |
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And, um, what would you propose is put in its place? |
sgr2 |
Oct-28-03 06:59 PM |
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Here's One Alternative |
durutti |
Oct-29-03 10:50 AM |
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The problem really isn't that there is a max salary cap |
Frangible |
Oct-28-03 04:06 PM |
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But it is broken, that's the point. |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 04:24 PM |
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Why? |
Frangible |
Oct-28-03 04:29 PM |
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In the 60's, a family of 4 or more could live on ONE blue-collar wage |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 04:45 PM |
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As I said |
Frangible |
Oct-28-03 05:00 PM |
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Who said that the 'standard of living' is worse? |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 05:25 PM |
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If that's the case |
Frangible |
Oct-28-03 05:29 PM |
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Pure capitalism is not what the U.S pratices, |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 06:06 PM |
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WRONG! |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-29-03 11:14 AM |
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*sigh* |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Oct-29-03 10:13 AM |
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By what measure? (nt) |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 10:26 AM |
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social ownership and input into business |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Oct-29-03 10:34 AM |
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That's not an answer |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 10:58 AM |
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Nederland, whatever you are looking for I hope you find it |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Oct-29-03 11:00 AM |
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A suggestion |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 11:01 AM |
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A counter-suggestion... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-29-03 11:07 AM |
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Confused |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 11:09 AM |
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How can GDP measure that either??? |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-29-03 11:22 AM |
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In this case, that's what we want |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 11:34 AM |
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But here's where the misleading begins... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-29-03 11:41 AM |
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It isn't broken? |
camero |
Oct-29-03 10:20 AM |
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Think outside the box, camero... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-29-03 11:14 AM |
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It would also mean busting up the media |
camero |
Oct-29-03 11:32 AM |
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Capitalism is simply a system, same a socialism |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-29-03 11:45 AM |
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We cannot change human nature, we can only harness it. |
camero |
Oct-29-03 11:44 PM |
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Hardly a constant, camero |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-30-03 09:03 AM |
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A maximum wage penalizes selfishness |
camero |
Oct-30-03 03:08 PM |
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And focusing on "wage" is where you make your biggest mistake |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-31-03 08:38 AM |
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I know you're not picking on me, you're right |
camero |
Oct-31-03 12:53 PM |
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you'd have to... |
elfwitch |
Oct-28-03 04:11 PM |
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No offense |
Frangible |
Oct-28-03 04:18 PM |
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anecdotal.. |
toddzilla |
Oct-28-03 04:49 PM |
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The fact is |
Frangible |
Oct-28-03 04:55 PM |
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"Why do you need to make a profit on medical care?" |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-28-03 05:10 PM |
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you either have capitalism or socialism, and socialism is not viable |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 04:12 PM |
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works pretty good in Sweden |
elfwitch |
Oct-28-03 04:19 PM |
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Sweden has 3 percent of the US population and hasn't |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 04:57 PM |
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So- You don't consider Social Security/Medicare- |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 04:19 PM |
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not at all |
elfwitch |
Oct-28-03 04:25 PM |
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Actually, that question was directed at Bombtrack |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 04:46 PM |
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they are entitlements |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 04:46 PM |
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you might want to notice- |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 04:50 PM |
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There is no such thing as "american style" socialism |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 05:04 PM |
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ummm- what you call "Soviet socialism"... |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 05:28 PM |
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i'd call it Communism, because that's it's definition |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 05:44 PM |
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Not really. |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 06:12 PM |
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Large C Communism, was the official name for the USSR's ideology |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 06:29 PM |
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Soviet Communism was anything but socialism... |
TimeLord |
Oct-28-03 07:01 PM |
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The definition of Communism |
0rganism |
Oct-28-03 06:27 PM |
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but the overwhelmingly accepted idea of socialism |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 06:34 PM |
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So because people are confused, we should deny the label? |
0rganism |
Oct-28-03 06:53 PM |
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That's _C_ommunism, not socialism. |
Monte Carlo |
Oct-28-03 05:00 PM |
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No, C-ommunism was the brand name, if you will, of |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 05:13 PM |
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Official ideology? Do we have one now? |
Monte Carlo |
Oct-28-03 06:57 PM |
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that is not entirely true |
elfwitch |
Oct-29-03 10:00 AM |
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yet firm regulation is the only thing that makes the free market viable |
0rganism |
Oct-28-03 04:50 PM |
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I'm as pro-regulation as they come |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 05:22 PM |
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when did I ever say or imply that "real socialism" would work? |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 05:29 PM |
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nor is regulation capitalism, by your exclusive definitions |
0rganism |
Oct-28-03 06:05 PM |
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This is getting silly |
Bombtrack |
Oct-28-03 06:21 PM |
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Socialism was once popular |
wuushew |
Oct-28-03 06:28 PM |
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Great, call it whatever you like. It's still socialism |
0rganism |
Oct-28-03 06:41 PM |
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just an idea on maximum wage |
Ficus |
Oct-28-03 04:16 PM |
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That's kind of what I meant when I said: |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 06:25 PM |
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My answer - what would Christ do? |
Mountainman |
Oct-28-03 04:18 PM |
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social justice |
elfwitch |
Oct-28-03 04:21 PM |
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A true Labor Party |
proud patriot |
Oct-28-03 04:47 PM |
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make it more like German-style capitalism/socialism |
leftofthedial |
Oct-28-03 04:58 PM |
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I don't think it would ever work |
Kamika |
Oct-28-03 05:08 PM |
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Income re-distribution!! |
MrPrax |
Oct-28-03 05:15 PM |
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The US has been paying farmers not to grow crops. . . . |
Tansy_Gold |
Oct-28-03 05:32 PM |
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This is what's wrong |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 11:08 AM |
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It's perfectly workable, even if it doesn't work perfectly. |
Tansy_Gold |
Oct-29-03 11:15 AM |
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Assumptions |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 11:28 AM |
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Strong Labor |
quaker bill |
Oct-28-03 05:44 PM |
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Start by electing Dennis Kucinich |
Zorra |
Oct-28-03 05:59 PM |
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Absolutely! DK is the ticket. |
leftofthedial |
Oct-28-03 06:00 PM |
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But shooting down all those pigs, and paying for thawing out Hades- |
Beaker |
Oct-28-03 06:15 PM |
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Very, very true. |
Zorra |
Oct-28-03 06:46 PM |
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Dennis couldn't do jack... |
Nederland |
Oct-29-03 10:33 AM |
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Here's a lot of ideas from William Greider |
Armstead |
Oct-28-03 06:31 PM |
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Sounds like he's a half step from Market Socialism. |
JanMichael |
Oct-28-03 07:05 PM |
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Next time, just post the link. n/t |
brainshrub |
Oct-29-03 10:51 AM |
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One of the things I have been thinking about |
notadmblnd |
Oct-28-03 07:01 PM |
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How about some morality and honesty? |
ComerPerro |
Oct-29-03 10:02 AM |
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distribute the wealth! |
Terwilliger |
Oct-29-03 10:07 AM |
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We've moved increasingly toward corporate socialism in the US... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-29-03 10:10 AM |
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The only reason American-style Capitalism "works" |
brainshrub |
Oct-29-03 10:37 AM |
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This is also one of the BIG reasons for Smirk's foray into Iraq- |
Beaker |
Oct-29-03 11:43 AM |
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My Take |
durutti |
Oct-29-03 10:45 AM |
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The problem is |
mmonk |
Oct-30-03 03:12 PM |
#93 |
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