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Wed Oct-29-03 12:30 AM Response to Reply #78 |
| 84. But I think you are wrong about this specific action |
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| -High school girl's diary confiscated and read...and then it gets bad | ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 03:39 PM | #0 |
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It just goes to show |
Frangible | Oct-27-03 03:46 PM | #1 |
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and just what do you say |
dsc | Oct-27-03 03:49 PM | #2 |
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there is a difference between a threat and a thought |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 03:51 PM | #5 |
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And no threat has ever occurred without a preceding thought..... |
E_Zapata | Oct-27-03 04:47 PM | #21 |
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thinking |
zonmoy | Oct-28-03 03:54 PM | #70 |
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Here's what you say |
sangh0 | Oct-27-03 03:51 PM | #6 |
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why inject race? |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 04:19 PM | #12 |
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I think race (or sociology re race) is an issue |
E_Zapata | Oct-27-03 04:50 PM | #22 |
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let's blame it all on whitey |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 05:12 PM | #24 |
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Follow the gunfire in the schools...... |
E_Zapata | Oct-27-03 05:33 PM | #26 |
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funny... |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 05:39 PM | #27 |
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Follow the brush fire that killed 12 people in San Diego County |
slackmaster | Oct-28-03 09:36 AM | #30 |
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That fire is something else |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 09:38 AM | #31 |
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Yes, it's pretty awful |
slackmaster | Oct-28-03 10:42 AM | #45 |
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actually... |
DoNotRefill | Oct-29-03 12:11 AM | #83 |
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Racial profiling |
Bandit | Oct-28-03 12:57 PM | #56 |
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for it to be a "threat" it has to be *communicated* |
enki23 | Oct-27-03 04:31 PM | #16 |
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I am going to get really FLAMED for this, |
E_Zapata | Oct-27-03 04:44 PM | #20 |
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And just how does 'zero tolerance' help? |
Monte Carlo | Oct-28-03 10:06 AM | #37 |
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yepper |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 03:49 PM | #3 |
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spirit of the law... |
elfwitch | Oct-27-03 03:50 PM | #4 |
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how can there be any interpretation of Zero Tolerance laws? |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 03:52 PM | #7 |
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devil's advocate |
Smirky McChimpster | Oct-27-03 03:54 PM | #8 |
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I hear ya, Smirk! |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 03:57 PM | # |
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I hear ya, Smirk! |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 03:57 PM | #9 |
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I think it stems more from Fear than zero tolerance rules |
salin | Oct-27-03 04:01 PM | #10 |
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valuable two cents... |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 04:04 PM | #11 |
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lack of good parenting .... for the teachers, or for the kids |
salin | Oct-27-03 04:19 PM | #13 |
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big smiley, but the point is... |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 04:23 PM | #14 |
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I hear you |
salin | Oct-27-03 04:29 PM | #15 |
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Just my .02 |
msmcghee | Oct-27-03 04:38 PM | #17 |
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the school did this girl a favor.... |
flush_bush | Oct-27-03 04:39 PM | #18 |
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I do hope her writing keeps growing |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 05:11 PM | #23 |
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Parents have to hammer it home - NO writing, drawing leaves the house |
DuctapeFatwa | Oct-27-03 04:40 PM | #19 |
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it is a shame the world has come to this |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-27-03 05:14 PM | #25 |
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OFF TOPIC...why was this moved? |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 08:29 AM | #28 |
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Hey...we're back |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 09:32 AM | #29 |
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welcome to High School |
thebigidea | Oct-28-03 09:38 AM | #32 |
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now that I think about it... |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 09:40 AM | #33 |
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it's absurd |
Caution | Oct-28-03 09:48 AM | #34 |
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this is a preparation, i believe |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 09:58 AM | #35 |
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'Zero Tolerance' rules are the antithesis of all reason. |
Monte Carlo | Oct-28-03 10:03 AM | #36 |
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illusion is right |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 10:06 AM | #38 |
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The most hysterical interpretation wins with zero tolerance. |
Monte Carlo | Oct-28-03 10:16 AM | #40 |
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Honestly, had someone boosted one of my notebooks |
Colin Ex | Oct-28-03 10:10 AM | #39 |
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this goes to the fact that |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 10:25 AM | #43 |
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Yes |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 10:30 AM | #44 |
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Okay... |
Colin Ex | Oct-28-03 03:08 PM | #63 |
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Wrong |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 11:29 PM | #75 |
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Oh, I get it now... |
Wednesdays | Oct-29-03 09:18 AM | #97 |
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Not the same rights as the rest of us |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 09:30 AM | #100 |
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What the Supreme Court said |
Wednesdays | Oct-29-03 10:16 AM | #110 |
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But not the same level of rights |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 11:28 AM | #113 |
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Not quite |
knight_of_the_star | Oct-29-03 01:19 PM | #124 |
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Kids need a better sense of what is and is not |
DemBones DemBones | Oct-28-03 10:21 AM | #41 |
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I can certainly see your points...well stated. |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 10:50 AM | #47 |
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OK, assume you are that teacher |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 10:58 AM | #49 |
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Actually, I am a teacher |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 11:11 AM | #50 |
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So you trust her |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 12:23 PM | #54 |
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i disagree |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 01:26 PM | #57 |
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Not happy, just not life threatening |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 02:15 PM | #59 |
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i have a hard time with the comparison |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 02:44 PM | #60 |
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Government |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 11:32 PM | #76 |
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the teacher didn't just find the story |
salin | Oct-28-03 03:22 PM | #67 |
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Confiscated |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 11:34 PM | #77 |
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Was before Columbine - but during the time |
salin | Oct-29-03 09:25 AM | #98 |
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And then what? |
Wednesdays | Oct-29-03 09:29 AM | #99 |
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Note the word, perhaps |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 09:34 AM | #102 |
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Um |
Wednesdays | Oct-29-03 09:49 AM | #105 |
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Sets and subsets |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 09:52 AM | #106 |
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Sure, let's look at your analogy |
WhereIsMyFreedom | Oct-28-03 03:54 PM | #71 |
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Employment at will |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 11:38 PM | #78 |
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But I think you are wrong about this specific action |
WhereIsMyFreedom | Oct-29-03 12:30 AM | #84 |
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Continuing |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 07:01 AM | #91 |
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please pass me what you are smoking! |
dionysus | Oct-29-03 10:17 AM | #111 |
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Sorry, I don't smoke |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 11:30 AM | #114 |
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Each and every time |
kgfnally | Oct-28-03 03:00 PM | #61 |
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The other side |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 10:22 AM | #42 |
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thought police |
Terwilliger | Oct-28-03 10:45 AM | #46 |
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Not thought police at all |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 10:56 AM | #48 |
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if fiction were a cry for help... all authors would be LOCKED UP |
thebigidea | Oct-28-03 11:14 AM | #51 |
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Not at all |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 12:19 PM | #53 |
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Exhibit A: Stephen King, "RAGE" |
thebigidea | Oct-28-03 03:14 PM | #66 |
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Rage |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 11:41 PM | #80 |
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ah.. |
thebigidea | Oct-29-03 01:40 AM | #90 |
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Obvious extension? |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 07:03 AM | #92 |
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Oh? |
Wednesdays | Oct-29-03 09:37 AM | #103 |
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Zero tolerance |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 09:53 AM | #107 |
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doesn't that post look gorgeous |
thebigidea | Oct-29-03 09:56 AM | #109 |
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I don't design zero tolerance policies |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 11:32 AM | #115 |
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doubleplusgood, citizen |
thebigidea | Oct-29-03 11:36 AM | #117 |
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Not doublespeak |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 11:47 AM | #120 |
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you are wise in the ways of everything and anything, citizen. |
thebigidea | Oct-29-03 11:57 AM | #123 |
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Oh My.... |
RobinA | Oct-28-03 12:17 PM | #52 |
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The Blunt Truth |
jiacinto | Oct-28-03 12:26 PM | #55 |
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wow, I agree with you! |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-28-03 01:29 PM | #58 |
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I hate zero tolerance rules |
jiacinto | Oct-28-03 03:09 PM | #64 |
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This is maddening. |
Zhade | Oct-28-03 03:02 PM | #62 |
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Put yourself in the position of that school district |
jiacinto | Oct-28-03 03:13 PM | #65 |
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I agree with you completely |
slackmaster | Oct-28-03 03:33 PM | #68 |
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School psychologists are typically more |
DemBones DemBones | Oct-28-03 05:16 PM | #74 |
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So it is all about liability |
WhereIsMyFreedom | Oct-28-03 04:04 PM | #72 |
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That too |
jiacinto | Oct-28-03 11:39 PM | #79 |
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Not just liability |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-28-03 11:43 PM | #81 |
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I'm glad I graduated high school before columbine.. |
killbotfactory | Oct-28-03 03:43 PM | #69 |
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Maybe the thought of a multi million dollar lawsuit |
jiacinto | Oct-29-03 12:38 AM | #86 |
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Zero tolerance policies are problematic, |
DemBones DemBones | Oct-28-03 05:10 PM | #73 |
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There's a good reason that we don't do that for |
WhereIsMyFreedom | Oct-29-03 12:38 AM | #87 |
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Man, this is BS |
ComerPerro | Oct-28-03 11:44 PM | #82 |
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Put yourself in the position of a school system superintendent |
jiacinto | Oct-29-03 12:35 AM | #85 |
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Yeah, I agree with that part |
ComerPerro | Oct-29-03 12:40 AM | #88 |
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Well it should have been handled differently |
jiacinto | Oct-29-03 12:45 AM | #89 |
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Not enough |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 07:05 AM | #93 |
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or address the over reactions |
salin | Oct-29-03 09:32 AM | #101 |
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Not an overreaction |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 09:55 AM | #108 |
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I see your point there |
jiacinto | Oct-29-03 01:40 PM | #126 |
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Boy does this thread make me angry! |
FlaGranny | Oct-29-03 08:25 AM | #94 |
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I was a shool kid in the '60s and '70s |
slackmaster | Oct-29-03 08:38 AM | #95 |
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Oh man...does that take me back |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-29-03 08:58 AM | #96 |
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ROLF...where did you go to school in the 60s...china? heh n/t |
MrPrax | Oct-29-03 10:28 AM | #112 |
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San Diego Unified School District |
slackmaster | Oct-29-03 01:22 PM | #125 |
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According to Muddle, you had no right to do that. |
Wednesdays | Oct-29-03 09:40 AM | #104 |
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LOL |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 11:33 AM | #116 |
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what part of 'not a threat' do you not understand? |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-29-03 11:36 AM | #118 |
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Still a threat |
Muddleoftheroad | Oct-29-03 11:49 AM | #121 |
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sorry...stories are not threats |
ProdigalJunkMail | Oct-29-03 11:51 AM | #122 |
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sure you can,if its fiction |
thebigidea | Oct-29-03 11:38 AM | #119 |
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Put yourself in the position of the district superintendent |
jiacinto | Oct-29-03 01:43 PM | #127 |
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The schools are in a tough position . . . |
theboss | Oct-29-03 01:47 PM | #128 |
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