Reply #329: OK let me explain this ONE MORE TIME! FOr those that value repetition

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

Again, all you are saying is that the man only gets the choice not to have sex. The woman gets choices all along the way. That, as we like to say, is not a balanced argument.

Gee, that's interesting considering there are condoms, vasectomies, a few questions a MAN can ASK before he gets his rocks off and the like. Nowhere did I say a man had no choice but sex or NO sex...perhaps the problem is your linear thinking in the matter or the fact that you will cling to this notion of the man as VICTIM here even though there is little evidence to SUPPORT that faulty reasoning. BTW, what is a "balanced" argument? Maybe it is simply that your arguments are based on the false premise that the rights of a woman to her body and the RIGHTS of a child ONCE BORN are one in the smae...they aren't...if a woman has a child and them commits a crime...she goes to jail and the child doesn't...there's your first clue.

Child support is not necessary after a child is born. The mother is choosing to raise that child. There are many people out there who wish to adopt. If she is morally opposed to abortion, she has that legal option.

So, again let's examine your logic in the matter. You ONLY CARE about the consequences if YOU can CONTROL them. If you are denied control then the consequences should be as vindictive as possible even though you HAD control of when and IF to deposit your sperm.

Simple proof that this REALLY isn't about men having a choice only MEN GETTING to preserve their historic role as DOMINATOR.


If they do NOT go ahead with this entirely legal procedure, they are obligating a man toward a lifetime of financial commitment. That should not be their choice.

So where is the man's responsibility in all of this? WHy should the child have it's rights bargained away before the time of its birth?


Again, you are saying the state should bargain away the rights of future children for the convenience of the male so that men can continue to MINDLESSLY deposit their sperm free of consequences.

I frankly see no issue of equality with my argument since nature made this argument unbalanced.

Logic is your enemy in this. It is a classic political ploy. You want your cake and expect to eat it, too.

Uh, given all the children raised around the world with no father in site, as we say in legal cirlces "you're grabbing"