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Tue Oct-21-03 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #93 |
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Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 02:02 PM by elfwitch
You, as are all people, are entitled to your feelingas and beliefs. If you feel that abortion is murder, then you should never have one. I'd even go so far as to say that you would be correct in encouraging your friends or loved ones to never have one either.
I think that the problem that most of us here have is that your feelings on the subject shouldn't be legislated to effect mine. This issue is very personal. It is between the woman, her doctor, her family, and her creator (if she believes in one). Something that personal has no business being legislated.
These kind of laws exists to impose your moral or religious code on another person who may not share that belief. They are as wrong as legislating the actions of consenting adults doing things (sex, pot, watching porn) behind their own closed doors.
If you don't like it don't do it. If you don't like it and make sure I don't do it then you are wrong. That is just being a busybody.
edit: typo
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| -Senate Set to Ban "late term abortions" today |
Q |
Oct-21-03 12:13 PM |
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Santorum is a zealot... |
Q |
Oct-21-03 12:14 PM |
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Santorum |
Mel |
Oct-21-03 12:26 PM |
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Wasn't there a |
mzpip |
Oct-21-03 12:24 PM |
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bing bing bing |
Mel |
Oct-21-03 12:31 PM |
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PLEASE STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 12:27 PM |
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You Beat Me To It... Thanks For Saying This!!! |
arwalden |
Oct-21-03 12:36 PM |
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Hear hear! |
eileen_d |
Oct-21-03 12:39 PM |
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OK |
Muddleoftheroad |
Oct-21-03 12:45 PM |
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It's between a woman and her doctor, period. |
eileen_d |
Oct-21-03 12:48 PM |
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Nevertheless |
Muddleoftheroad |
Oct-21-03 12:52 PM |
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Congress is not the FDA |
eileen_d |
Oct-21-03 12:56 PM |
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All of this is ultimately decided by Congress |
Muddleoftheroad |
Oct-21-03 01:09 PM |
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What are you talking about |
eileen_d |
Oct-21-03 01:12 PM |
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Can you back up your claims? |
Q |
Oct-21-03 12:48 PM |
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because they don't understand it |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 12:49 PM |
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Given that |
Muddleoftheroad |
Oct-21-03 12:53 PM |
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Yes. They oppose it on emotional grounds. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 12:54 PM |
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So then a late term child |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 12:55 PM |
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I am betting you don't have a clue what circumstances |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 12:58 PM |
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It isn't delivered and killed |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:00 PM |
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You are the only one getting emotional |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:05 PM |
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projection is funny |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:09 PM |
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OK then |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:13 PM |
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round we go |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:16 PM |
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Insults? |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:20 PM |
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laugh all you want |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:23 PM |
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Blue you can not murder something that isn't going to live... |
TLM |
Oct-21-03 01:25 PM |
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Good point |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:29 PM |
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Let me be very clear about the danger... |
TLM |
Oct-21-03 01:33 PM |
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No functioning brain? |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:36 PM |
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You really do not know what an anacephalic or hydrocephalic fetus is? |
TLM |
Oct-21-03 01:44 PM |
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Question: is late term abortions ONLY performed in the case of.... |
Selwynn |
Oct-21-03 02:37 PM |
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Here are the facts. |
maha |
Oct-21-03 03:10 PM |
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What about cruelty to a woman whose life is endangered by |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:34 PM |
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Danger is less cruel then horrible death. |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:37 PM |
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Wow! |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:38 PM |
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No. |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:42 PM |
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Dishonest? |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:54 PM |
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You seem to be softening, now that you've been educated on what |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:39 PM |
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Blue_Chill, You Are Not Alone! |
pbl |
Oct-21-03 01:54 PM |
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proof please |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:56 PM |
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Ones who would be swayed to reject Dems because of this |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 02:25 PM |
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That's because the majority of Americans |
Clark Can WIN |
Oct-21-03 04:23 PM |
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What do you mean "late term?" |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:18 PM |
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According to the American Medical Association |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:13 PM |
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No I can't |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 12:57 PM |
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If the Doctors are so rare and it's almost never done |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 12:54 PM |
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Do you know what those very instances are? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 12:57 PM |
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I don't know let's ask the AMA. |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 12:59 PM |
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yeah? |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:06 PM |
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Yeah. |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:08 PM |
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Gladly |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:12 PM |
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Misleading stats. |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:17 PM |
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misleading how? |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:24 PM |
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OK |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:30 PM |
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misleading how? |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:40 PM |
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Here you go. |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:33 PM |
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Blue, do you even know why this late term abortion is done? |
TLM |
Oct-21-03 01:23 PM |
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Apparently not. I haven't been able to get an answer from him on that. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:25 PM |
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The AMA answered you. |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:31 PM |
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What the AMA said was that this is not the ONLY way... |
TLM |
Oct-21-03 01:36 PM |
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I see your point |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:40 PM |
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The AMA says nothing about when the procedure is performed. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:36 PM |
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What the fuck is your problem? |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:40 PM |
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That you sound like a right to lifer |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:50 PM |
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Sorry if I misread your position |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:48 PM |
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WRONG |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:22 PM |
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Counterpoint: why give the STATE the right to decide? |
Q |
Oct-21-03 12:57 PM |
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What are you babbling about? |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:02 PM |
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Because it SAVES LIVES |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:05 PM |
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Dead babies? |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:10 PM |
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unbelievable |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:14 PM |
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Grind them into burgers? |
missb |
Oct-21-03 01:15 PM |
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OK |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:21 PM |
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so you agree that LTA should remain legal |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:26 PM |
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But the ban would make it illegal |
missb |
Oct-21-03 01:26 PM |
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I don't support this bill if that's what you mean |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:32 PM |
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What's cruel about it? |
TLM |
Oct-21-03 01:31 PM |
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I disagree |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:34 PM |
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If you had no choice but to suffer pain in order to live and resume health |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:43 PM |
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The AMA lies. |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:47 PM |
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It was just EXPLAINED TO YOU why it is done |
Clark Can WIN |
Oct-21-03 04:42 PM |
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Notice that big media doesn't try to explain the reality, either. |
w4rma |
Oct-21-03 12:57 PM |
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The "rarely done" argument is ridiculous |
Yupster |
Oct-21-03 01:17 PM |
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In order for your argument to be legitimate |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:27 PM |
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That's not an argument: don't ban late term abortions because they're rare |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:29 PM |
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You'd say different |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:24 PM |
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A majority opposes it because they don't get it |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 12:53 PM |
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To answer your question ... |
BattyDem |
Oct-21-03 01:16 PM |
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You're wrong about people opposing D&X |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:23 PM |
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We're not a majoritarian democracy. |
maha |
Oct-21-03 01:47 PM |
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But the irony here is that a majority clearly opposes outlawing |
BurtWorm |
Oct-21-03 01:51 PM |
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You are right. |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:50 PM |
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I used the phrase used in the article... |
Q |
Oct-21-03 12:43 PM |
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Didn't mean to single you out. |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 12:50 PM |
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No...your point was well-taken... |
Q |
Oct-21-03 12:54 PM |
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Exactly |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:02 PM |
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This is the same type of screwed up reasoning... |
Q |
Oct-21-03 01:02 PM |
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I'm new here. I have a question. |
zoe1 |
Oct-21-03 01:00 PM |
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Democrats only |
Blue_Chill |
Oct-21-03 01:03 PM |
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I just read the rules |
zoe1 |
Oct-21-03 01:18 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-21-03 01:22 PM |
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Just go ahead and post your opinion... |
Q |
Oct-21-03 01:27 PM |
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Ok |
zoe1 |
Oct-21-03 01:47 PM |
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that is fine as long as... |
elfwitch |
Oct-21-03 01:57 PM |
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. |
zoe1 |
Oct-21-03 02:19 PM |
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Preborn baby? |
missb |
Oct-21-03 02:32 PM |
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exactly |
elfwitch |
Oct-21-03 03:42 PM |
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fingers and toes are really cute! |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 02:00 PM |
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Exchanging of ideas and debating happens here every day |
eileen_d |
Oct-21-03 01:35 PM |
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I suggest you read the board rules... |
Q |
Oct-21-03 01:03 PM |
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Is this really what we are 'as a society"? |
Q |
Oct-21-03 01:09 PM |
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Will An AMA Endorsement Sway Any Votes? |
Q |
Oct-21-03 01:15 PM |
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Not really |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:20 PM |
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Good. I'm against partial birth abortion. |
WhosNext |
Oct-21-03 01:25 PM |
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yeah dammit! |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:29 PM |
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Thank goodness you're not God. |
missb |
Oct-21-03 01:30 PM |
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I'm not against it in those types of cases. |
WhosNext |
Oct-21-03 01:32 PM |
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are you lying? |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 01:59 PM |
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pretty soon "late term" |
Skittles |
Oct-21-03 01:47 PM |
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Thank You! You Have Described The Phenomenon Of... |
arwalden |
Oct-21-03 02:05 PM |
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Anal sex to be outlawed next week.(nt) |
mrgorth |
Oct-21-03 02:02 PM |
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SERIOUS QUESTION: Why is baning late term abortions bad? |
Selwynn |
Oct-21-03 02:19 PM |
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read the thread |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 02:28 PM |
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Ok, doing it now |
Selwynn |
Oct-21-03 02:31 PM |
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Personally |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:30 PM |
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I'm with you |
Hep |
Oct-21-03 02:43 PM |
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What you should know: |
maha |
Oct-21-03 03:21 PM |
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Roe v. Wade.... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Oct-21-03 02:55 PM |
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Selwynn- |
BullGooseLoony |
Oct-21-03 03:54 PM |
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AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBSTRETRICS AND GYNECOLOGY |
maha |
Oct-21-03 02:23 PM |
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It's still all about control. |
Lars39 |
Oct-21-03 02:32 PM |
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I'm pro choice with a huge asterisk..... |
RummyTheDummy |
Oct-21-03 02:48 PM |
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THIS IS JUST DISGUSTING! |
Loyal |
Oct-21-03 02:56 PM |
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Great post! |
mrgorth |
Oct-21-03 03:02 PM |
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yep |
Loyal |
Oct-21-03 03:05 PM |
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By the way, |
Loyal |
Oct-21-03 03:02 PM |
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Just thought of another good one |
Loyal |
Oct-21-03 03:09 PM |
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As a male, |
Loyal |
Oct-21-03 03:12 PM |
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good for you !! |
elfwitch |
Oct-21-03 03:29 PM |
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Yeah,and yet men are always the ones yacking on TV,paper... |
OneTwentyoFive |
Oct-21-03 03:44 PM |
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Sanitorium - It's Not OK to Kill Babies |
otohara |
Oct-21-03 03:24 PM |
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I haven't heard anything from Santorum or Hatch... |
Q |
Oct-21-03 04:03 PM |
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He Only Cares About The Arms & Legs |
otohara |
Oct-21-03 04:15 PM |
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Am I reading this correctly.. this bill has NO exceptions for mother's |
salin |
Oct-21-03 04:05 PM |
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SC will overturn it |
Loyal |
Oct-21-03 04:11 PM |
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I am correct, then? NO exceptions? |
salin |
Oct-21-03 04:18 PM |
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interesting... |
elfwitch |
Oct-21-03 04:20 PM |
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apparently they don't care much for the womb either? |
salin |
Oct-21-03 04:27 PM |
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Locking. |
kaitykaity |
Oct-21-03 04:37 PM |
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