Clarkie1
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Thu Dec-22-05 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 35. Hillary is manipulative, self-centered, and egotistical. |
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It has nothing to do with her gender.
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| -Why do so many love Bill and dislike Hillary? |
WI_DEM |
Dec-22-05 09:45 AM |
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I like em both, But Bill is Farrrrrrrr more likeable and charming. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Dec-22-05 09:48 AM |
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Because she is a strong woman? |
liberal N proud |
Dec-22-05 09:48 AM |
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Not at all |
MN ChimpH8R |
Dec-22-05 09:52 AM |
#11 |
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My thoughts exactly |
waiting for hope |
Dec-22-05 09:54 AM |
#18 |
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very well said! |
Lerkfish |
Dec-22-05 10:05 AM |
#33 |
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I agree |
zeemike |
Dec-22-05 10:18 AM |
#49 |
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You guys know that Kucinich and Clark support flag burning bans, right? |
skipos |
Dec-22-05 08:20 PM |
#142 |
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Nicely said. |
Beelzebud |
Dec-22-05 11:48 AM |
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Exactly |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-22-05 01:22 PM |
#93 |
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Me Too |
RobinA |
Dec-22-05 08:59 PM |
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Nope. I love Barbara Boxer. |
Ladyhawk |
Dec-22-05 09:53 AM |
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Actually, I see her as the opposite |
CornField |
Dec-22-05 09:53 AM |
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Good point. Maybe that's why I love Barbara Boxer. :) n/t |
Ladyhawk |
Dec-22-05 09:54 AM |
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I agree completely!! n/t |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 10:09 AM |
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Bullony. She has a right to handle her own marraige any way she wants to. |
ray of light |
Dec-22-05 12:24 PM |
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"she handled his tawdry affair" This is the real point isn't it? |
lukasahero |
Dec-22-05 01:38 PM |
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right! |
ray of light |
Dec-22-05 03:54 PM |
#125 |
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One misconception |
CornField |
Dec-22-05 04:19 PM |
#127 |
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Yes and No |
CornField |
Dec-22-05 04:17 PM |
#126 |
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Oh Please |
RobinA |
Dec-22-05 09:01 PM |
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That's it. Although the people who hate her because of that |
Lindacooks |
Dec-22-05 08:28 PM |
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how does that square with a simultaneous love for Boxer? |
MisterP |
Dec-22-05 09:21 PM |
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It's that Hillary is a woman |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 09:48 AM |
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everyone? not me... |
ixion |
Dec-22-05 10:04 AM |
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Hillary is manipulative, self-centered, and egotistical. |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-22-05 10:06 AM |
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And all other politicians aren't? |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:07 AM |
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You have a point, however... |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-22-05 11:08 AM |
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Do you have proof she lied or is this just slander? |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 01:19 PM |
#92 |
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Future hopes: to win. |
Clarkie1 |
Dec-22-05 06:42 PM |
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Here's just a start. You should apologize to Hillary |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 07:55 PM |
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No - Wes devises his own and sticks to it. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-22-05 10:12 AM |
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I agree. |
AZBlue |
Dec-22-05 11:43 AM |
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No,everyone |
McLuhan |
Dec-22-05 12:19 PM |
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I'm not a fan of Wes Clark, and there are plenty of women pols I like |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-22-05 12:35 PM |
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Wes seems genuine about his positions, Hillary seems calculated |
skipos |
Dec-22-05 08:22 PM |
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I would proffer that she simply doesn't have his personality... |
Imagine My Surprise |
Dec-22-05 09:49 AM |
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I love'em both. |
xultar |
Dec-22-05 09:49 AM |
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I can't speak for others but my disdain for Hillary is that ... |
Zensea |
Dec-22-05 09:50 AM |
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you pretty much hit it on the nail for me |
WI_DEM |
Dec-22-05 09:53 AM |
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I do not dislike Senator CLinton |
DanCa |
Dec-22-05 09:51 AM |
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Something about her public persona seems incredibly contrived |
tasteblind |
Dec-22-05 09:51 AM |
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I like them both but don't think she can win. |
yourout |
Dec-22-05 09:51 AM |
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I agree. |
abluelady |
Dec-22-05 10:08 AM |
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I'm not that crazy about either of them... |
Webster Green |
Dec-22-05 09:52 AM |
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Because Bill can't run again. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Dec-22-05 09:53 AM |
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First, they are both politically dead... |
occuserpens |
Dec-22-05 09:53 AM |
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Your last line is the epitome of the GARBAGE that reeks of rightwing |
mtnsnake |
Dec-22-05 09:17 PM |
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dupe |
mtnsnake |
Dec-22-05 09:25 PM |
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Bill was far better at explaining and reasoning |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-22-05 09:55 AM |
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She has to do things and say things that play to conservative voters. |
Swede |
Dec-22-05 09:58 AM |
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Actually, no she doesn't |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-22-05 09:08 PM |
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Haven't you heard? |
William769 |
Dec-22-05 09:56 AM |
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Because Bill worked for everything, and too much |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 09:56 AM |
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She scared Guiliani into not running, that's how tough she is |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:05 AM |
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Guiliani got hit with prostate cancer and had a divorce at the time... |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 10:07 AM |
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Rudi could have easily won if wasn't facing the invincible Hillary |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:08 AM |
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Minus a divorce, and he lost to a weak opponent... |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 10:12 AM |
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Lazio was a very strong opponent |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:19 AM |
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No one gave Lazio a shot.... |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 01:05 PM |
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Zogby had Lazio ahead |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 01:14 PM |
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Yeah, good pick... |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 01:25 PM |
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Many Democrats know Kerry won Ohio |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 01:32 PM |
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I agree with the Anti-Monarchy principal |
cease_fire |
Dec-22-05 10:50 AM |
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speaking of the anti monarchy principle... |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 01:06 PM |
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The Clinton's aren't a dynasty, just a working family |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 01:23 PM |
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Get a grip please... |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 01:27 PM |
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I would fight to the death for the Clinton's |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 01:47 PM |
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Because Bill worked for everything, and too much |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 09:56 AM |
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Nope |
rniel |
Dec-22-05 09:58 AM |
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Bill is "charming" she is not, but that said |
marylanddem |
Dec-22-05 09:58 AM |
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I dislike them both equally, although I'd enjoy spending time with |
greyhound1966 |
Dec-22-05 09:59 AM |
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She also carries an air of arrogance and entitlement |
annces8 |
Dec-22-05 09:59 AM |
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She married a poor liberal guy and moved to Arkansas |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:31 AM |
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Because she's a strrong woman and many in this Country |
napi21 |
Dec-22-05 10:00 AM |
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the clintons |
mimitabby |
Dec-22-05 10:01 AM |
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Try as she might Hillary just isn't as Charismatic as Bill |
meatloaf |
Dec-22-05 10:01 AM |
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No one is a charismatic as Bill Clinton |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:29 AM |
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Compared to John Kerry, she's the Jim Carrey of the Party!! |
mtnsnake |
Dec-22-05 09:37 PM |
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He's a gifted politician, she isn't |
MakeItSo |
Dec-22-05 10:03 AM |
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As a women, I don't think very highly of Hillary..... |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 10:07 AM |
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Some people have marriages built on more than sex |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:27 AM |
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Bill is no FDR by any standard... |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 10:29 AM |
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Maybe if Clinton had been allowed to run 4 times |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:33 AM |
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If FDR were alive he would have spat at Bill's welfare reform..... |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 10:42 AM |
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By what metric do you classify welfare reform as a failure? |
MakeItSo |
Dec-22-05 12:24 PM |
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Welfare 'Reform': This is Success? |
wuushew |
Dec-22-05 01:56 PM |
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So you consider turning the welfare recipients into working poor a |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 03:05 PM |
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No, Clinton's broad-based economic success |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-22-05 03:18 PM |
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In different times, FDR would have been a different president. |
MookieWilson |
Dec-22-05 10:03 PM |
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it's not the sex |
Nicole |
Dec-22-05 04:29 PM |
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"... if she can't keep her own hubby in line." |
madeline_con |
Dec-22-05 10:42 AM |
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Isn't that why the Mayor of Columbus is no longer running for |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 10:45 AM |
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You've got me there. |
madeline_con |
Dec-22-05 11:11 AM |
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You think a woman is responsible for "keeping her husband in line"? |
Lars39 |
Dec-22-05 11:57 AM |
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I would not let my husband make a mockery out of me, or our marriage |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 03:08 PM |
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I don't see how you would have control over whether he cheats |
Lars39 |
Dec-22-05 06:20 PM |
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I don't have to have control over that, I have control over my reaction |
converted_democrat |
Dec-23-05 07:53 AM |
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"she can't keep her own hubby in line" Geez shouldn't he keep himself |
lukasahero |
Dec-22-05 01:45 PM |
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I would not let my husband make a mockery of me, or our marriage. |
converted_democrat |
Dec-22-05 03:11 PM |
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same here n/t |
Nicole |
Dec-22-05 04:26 PM |
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they were not the same person last time i checked |
LSK |
Dec-22-05 10:09 AM |
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They ran as a team the first time and will run again as a team |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:37 AM |
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LOL! That's what I would've said. |
DemItAllAnyway |
Dec-22-05 11:00 AM |
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Screw them both. |
im10ashus |
Dec-22-05 10:10 AM |
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how is Bill "against" same-sex marraige? |
LSK |
Dec-22-05 10:11 AM |
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You are kidding me, right? |
im10ashus |
Dec-22-05 11:47 AM |
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Honestly? |
yknot |
Dec-22-05 10:10 AM |
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Bill came up from poverty by smarts and hard work, while Hillary was born |
QC |
Dec-22-05 10:13 AM |
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Hillary grew up middle class |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 10:26 AM |
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She grew up in Park Ridge |
annces8 |
Dec-22-05 10:38 AM |
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Park Ridge looks pretty swanky to me. |
QC |
Dec-22-05 10:45 AM |
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qc, that is such bullsit, only your perception, not reality n/t |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 10:43 AM |
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Perception is reality, baby. |
QC |
Dec-22-05 10:54 AM |
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she didnt grow up in privilige, that alone isnt fact, because it is |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 01:49 PM |
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Childish. |
QC |
Dec-22-05 02:32 PM |
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childish? |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 02:58 PM |
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"fine. i dont care." |
QC |
Dec-22-05 03:27 PM |
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bah hahaha, so i am stalker if i respond to you. lol |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 05:37 PM |
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Oops--my apologies. |
QC |
Dec-22-05 05:49 PM |
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dont remember talking goldstein anywhere. hey |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 06:03 PM |
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I simply don't think it is healthy for both of our parties to be dominated |
QC |
Dec-22-05 07:03 PM |
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well i agree with you on the premise that you are talking in this post |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 07:27 PM |
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I wouldn't say that the two parties are exactly the same, but... |
QC |
Dec-22-05 07:55 PM |
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i was talking to father the other day, about how hard for people to live |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 08:16 PM |
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Thanks! It's been an interesting discussion. n/t |
QC |
Dec-22-05 08:59 PM |
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i didnt like bill. never really liked the man. |
seabeyond |
Dec-22-05 10:39 AM |
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I'm not crazy about either of them, frankly, only prefer Bill in contrast |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-22-05 10:58 AM |
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Wouldn't take her on a fishing trip |
Rainbow gatherer |
Dec-22-05 12:03 PM |
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You know what? I decided this morning |
MsTryska |
Dec-22-05 11:04 AM |
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Because Bill presided what for some people was a |
Heaven and Earth |
Dec-22-05 11:22 AM |
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I like them both. A lot. (n/t) |
AZBlue |
Dec-22-05 11:44 AM |
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I don't like either of them. |
merh |
Dec-22-05 11:45 AM |
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right on merh - i dont care for either one of them |
faithnotgreed |
Dec-22-05 11:59 AM |
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EXACTLY! |
Township75 |
Dec-22-05 01:10 PM |
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I can't stand either of the DLC shills. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-22-05 11:55 AM |
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I like them both. |
InvisibleTouch |
Dec-22-05 12:18 PM |
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They are 2 different people you know. |
mondo joe |
Dec-22-05 12:19 PM |
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I mean politically speaking many people consider Hillary a "sell out" |
WI_DEM |
Dec-22-05 01:23 PM |
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He was a sell out too. |
merh |
Dec-22-05 01:26 PM |
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Uh I always thought he sold out with Welfare Reform and NAFTA |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-22-05 04:34 PM |
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I know many couples with similar politics, like 1 and dislike the other. |
mondo joe |
Dec-22-05 01:40 PM |
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that's probably it even--he is warm and fuzzy and she isn't |
WI_DEM |
Dec-22-05 03:07 PM |
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I don't know. My take is not that simplistic. |
LWolf |
Dec-22-05 01:31 PM |
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Wonderful post. |
merh |
Dec-22-05 01:34 PM |
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You're welcome! |
LWolf |
Dec-23-05 03:28 PM |
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Charisma or MISOGYNY!!?!?!? |
Moochy |
Dec-22-05 01:32 PM |
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That is such bullshit. |
im10ashus |
Dec-22-05 01:35 PM |
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here's your break |
Moochy |
Dec-22-05 01:39 PM |
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Glad you modified that. |
im10ashus |
Dec-22-05 01:42 PM |
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I hate to break it to you but the Demcoractic party is not liberal |
billbuckhead |
Dec-22-05 01:43 PM |
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Thanks for the "reality check" |
Moochy |
Dec-22-05 01:53 PM |
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I don't care for either |
mitchum |
Dec-22-05 01:55 PM |
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Bill is warm & charming while Hillary is cold and distant |
LunaC |
Dec-22-05 03:17 PM |
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Hillary is Bill without the charisma |
LittleClarkie |
Dec-22-05 03:19 PM |
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TIMING--Bill's third way worked in con era |
yurbud |
Dec-22-05 07:26 PM |
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Bill's got an enormous amount of charm and political savvy |
bklyncowgirl |
Dec-22-05 08:29 PM |
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Because Bill is charming and easy to like, while Hillary isn't. |
Neil Lisst |
Dec-22-05 08:35 PM |
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I've read that she's very warm and charming in person |
ccbombs |
Dec-22-05 08:42 PM |
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Anyone who thinks that Hillary doesn't have charisma |
mtnsnake |
Dec-22-05 09:40 PM |
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When I found out Hillary was a Young Republican in College, I |
B Calm |
Dec-22-05 09:48 PM |
#157 |