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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #21
29. first of all, I reject your labeling of unity as "fascist lockstep"
second of all, I reject the false dichotomy that if we want a dem, it has to be a DINO or a republican.
My alternative is to run progressive dems against DLC dems in primaries.
find out which type of dem the VOTERS want, instead of which kind of dem the DLC wishes to implant.

I agree we must vote together at the polls in the general election, but I've found many yellow dog democrats and DLC supporters keep telling us we need to support ANYONE who calls themselves a dem or else vote for a republican. Anyone can call themselves a democrat, and there have been races where a republican switched parties right before the election.

Do I go to a supermarket and buy any coffee as long as its coffee? Is it ok with you if I read the lable first?

Lastly, a call for unity is fine, a condescending exhortation on how to vote is not.
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  -Dammit, people, campaigning and voting in LOCKSTEP is the answer. GaYellowDawg  Dec-20-05 07:53 AM   #0 
  - Gotta insure honest elections FIRST. We tried voting three times  havocmom   Dec-20-05 07:56 AM   #1 
  - VERY good point.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 07:57 AM   #3 
  - nice imagery.  Bill McBlueState   Dec-20-05 07:57 AM   #2 
  - Doesn't matter about ethics?  BobRossi   Dec-20-05 07:59 AM   #4 
  - I'm not talking about Democrats abandoning ethics.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:15 AM   #16 
  - Not going to happen under the DLC  Warpy   Dec-20-05 08:00 AM   #5 
  - Here are your two choices:  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:03 AM   #9 
     - I reject your false dichotomy.  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 08:15 AM   #15 
     - "there are more choices than that" NAME THEM.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:18 AM   #21 
        - first of all, I reject your labeling of unity as "fascist lockstep"  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 08:24 AM   #29 
           - Aah, now you finally get it.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:32 AM   #35 
              - false accuastion.  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 08:39 AM   #41 
                 - Okay -  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:46 AM   #46 
                    - thanks  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 09:35 AM   #55 
     - False choice  Warpy   Dec-20-05 08:19 AM   #24 
  - Try getting the Dem politicians to do the same against the war.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-20-05 08:00 AM   #6 
  - Uh oh. You're in trouble now.  Skinner   Dec-20-05 08:00 AM   #7 
  - what about the D over the D?  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 08:16 AM   #18 
     - Primaries are a completely different issue.  Skinner   Dec-20-05 08:27 AM   #31 
     - I missed it: was ANYONE avocating not voting for dems against repubs?  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 08:36 AM   #39 
     - My message is not self-conflicting.  Skinner   Dec-20-05 08:53 AM   #49 
        - thanks for the clarification.  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 09:34 AM   #54 
     - Well, there you go, Skinner -- making sense!!!  DeepModem Mom   Dec-20-05 08:39 AM   #43 
     - ABSOLUTELY!!  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:35 AM   #37 
  - Feel free to live as you wish  CornField   Dec-20-05 08:00 AM   #8 
  - Fine.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:08 AM   #12 
  - again, false dichotomy, the choice betwee Lieberman and Delay is not the  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 08:19 AM   #22 
  - You are COMPLETELY missing the point.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:22 AM   #27 
     - no, I get YOUR point, you're not getting MINE.  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 08:29 AM   #32 
        - I was talking about post-primary the entire time.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:43 AM   #44 
           - I would like to query the INTENT of your originating post, then.  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 09:40 AM   #56 
              - Now you're the one with a false dichotomy.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 10:39 AM   #58 
                 - kinda uncomfortable, aint it?  Lerkfish   Dec-20-05 12:30 PM   #61 
  - Sieg Heil  CornField   Dec-20-05 08:21 AM   #25 
     - Holy CRAP.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:30 AM   #33 
        - That may be what you are saying now  CornField   Dec-20-05 09:24 AM   #53 
  - voting on pure "principle" doesn't get Dem Committee chairs  emulatorloo   Dec-20-05 08:39 AM   #42 
     - And what's being advocated here is exactly  CornField   Dec-20-05 09:23 AM   #52 
        - actually no -- all the "don't tell me to vote in lock-step" people  emulatorloo   Dec-20-05 12:30 PM   #62 
  - What was the question? To mine, the answer is: "Diebold"  robbedvoter   Dec-20-05 08:03 AM   #10 
  - Democrats can't even agree that the illegal war is illegal  The Stranger   Dec-20-05 08:05 AM   #11 
  - I'll tell you exactly why.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:11 AM   #14 
     - If we have learned anything (. . . paging Dr. Dean . . . ) it is that we  The Stranger   Dec-20-05 08:54 AM   #50 
  - I will only campaign and vote for Democratic Candidates who  Walt Starr   Dec-20-05 08:09 AM   #13 
  - Did that last time  mmonk   Dec-20-05 08:15 AM   #17 
  - Perhaps we should put on some smart uniforms  alcibiades_mystery   Dec-20-05 08:16 AM   #19 
  - And this is the problem.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:19 AM   #23 
     - Yeah, that's why...  alcibiades_mystery   Dec-20-05 11:09 AM   #60 
  - We have realize that our opponents are monsters.  AngryAmish   Dec-20-05 08:18 AM   #20 
  - I respectfully disagree with that message  Armstead   Dec-20-05 08:22 AM   #26 
  - Good post.  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:37 AM   #40 
  - Uh-huh. The problem is that Democrats don't act like Republicans, huh?  TahitiNut   Dec-20-05 08:23 AM   #28 
  - ZOOM!! Right past the point!!  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:34 AM   #36 
  - That's our only hope! That's why they "win"? They would be made  Auntie Bush   Dec-20-05 08:26 AM   #30 
  - Owning the voting machines is the answer..  rman   Dec-20-05 08:31 AM   #34 
  - Herded many cats lately?  PatrioticOhioLiberal   Dec-20-05 08:35 AM   #38 
  - I sure got "meowed" on, didn't I?  GaYellowDawg   Dec-20-05 08:48 AM   #47 
     - Yeppers  PatrioticOhioLiberal   Dec-20-05 09:19 AM   #51 
  - Dawg, I just supported you with a rec. nt  DeepModem Mom   Dec-20-05 08:44 AM   #45 
  - How 'bout Democrats in Congress show us how to, first?  Walt Starr   Dec-20-05 08:49 AM   #48 
  - hmmm....  GreenArrow   Dec-20-05 09:47 AM   #57 
     - how dare you criticize our future Pyrrhic victories!  MisterP   Dec-20-05 12:50 PM   #65 
        - someone has to be the party pooper  GreenArrow   Dec-20-05 06:40 PM   #66 
  - I used to think that way, but then I felt more and more that my vote  deutsey   Dec-20-05 10:49 AM   #59 
  - that, or....  Jed Dilligan   Dec-20-05 12:42 PM   #63 
  - I explored the same avenue of thought as a total outsider  BelgianMadCow   Dec-20-05 12:46 PM   #64 

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