| -The Paul Wellstone crash was..... |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 01:37 PM |
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an unfortunate accident planned by the bush regime |
DuctapeFatwa |
Oct-20-03 01:40 PM |
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It's either one or the other |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 01:41 PM |
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You gotta think big tent |
DuctapeFatwa |
Oct-20-03 01:44 PM |
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LOL |
9215 |
Oct-20-03 01:47 PM |
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ok |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 01:53 PM |
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You sayng the US govt is incapable of planning an unfortunate accident? |
DuctapeFatwa |
Oct-20-03 02:40 PM |
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some people just hate thinking "outside the box" |
Cheswick |
Oct-20-03 03:35 PM |
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#2 - Think President Wellstone |
Zorra |
Oct-20-03 08:45 PM |
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beautiful! |
0007 |
Oct-22-03 06:59 AM |
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On SFGate.com |
theivoryqueen |
Oct-20-03 01:41 PM |
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Foil-hatters |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 01:41 PM |
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Funny! |
theivoryqueen |
Oct-20-03 01:57 PM |
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and |
ArkDem |
Oct-20-03 02:53 PM |
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I have nothing to base my suspicion on, I just never believed it |
lindashaw |
Oct-20-03 01:41 PM |
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To clarify |
tridim |
Oct-20-03 01:45 PM |
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Could it be... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 01:48 PM |
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Exactly |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 01:53 PM |
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You forgot |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 01:55 PM |
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and |
Yupster |
Oct-20-03 03:49 PM |
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Oh no ! Bush whacked the Big Fucking Bopper |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 04:53 PM |
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Don't forget ELVIS! |
AquariDem |
Oct-20-03 05:28 PM |
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Yep, it was utterly probable that Wellstone would die in a ridiculously |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 02:40 PM |
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Oh, PUH-leeze! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 03:58 PM |
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Nice argument. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:14 PM |
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I think that is |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-20-03 01:56 PM |
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so-so saftey record? |
BikeDeck |
Oct-20-03 02:06 PM |
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Much, *MUCH* higher than for commercial aviation. n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 02:19 PM |
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Much Much higher |
BikeDeck |
Oct-20-03 02:24 PM |
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Okee dokee |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 02:43 PM |
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I would look at it slightly different |
BikeDeck |
Oct-20-03 02:57 PM |
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And the safety record of the King Air A-100 specifically? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 02:43 PM |
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Have NONE of them ever crashed? n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 03:59 PM |
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Very few. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:13 PM |
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Wait! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:39 PM |
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Lame appeal to ridicule. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:42 PM |
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I did |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:35 PM |
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And EIGHT of those fifteen died in Wellstone's crash! |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:04 PM |
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8 people, one crash, 8 dead. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:07 PM |
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Way to go! Lame appeals to ridicule suit you so well. (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:10 PM |
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It's all anyone, including YOU, 'knows'! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:18 PM |
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Straw man. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:36 PM |
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Ummm |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:47 PM |
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I mentioned a radio beacon (VOR) as a possible explanation for how |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:55 PM |
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no, I don't need any 'stinking explanations'--- |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 07:03 PM |
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Logic 101 Quiz: You say it must have been an accident. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 07:11 PM |
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Logic 101-A: *You* do |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 07:16 PM |
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Proof? (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 07:20 PM |
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So obvious I won't waste time. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 07:23 PM |
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And your proof for this assertion is? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 07:21 PM |
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It's a *fact*, not an 'assertion' |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 07:41 PM |
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It's not a fact. The subset of analogous deaths is too small and the |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 10:09 AM |
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Stop your sophistry |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 12:03 PM |
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Forgive him, father, for he knows not what he says ... (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 01:38 PM |
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We have lots of them crash out here in W Texas |
Yupster |
Oct-20-03 03:54 PM |
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Well, let's see, over the years there have been several |
SharonAnn |
Oct-20-03 01:50 PM |
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Didn't a congresscritter from Texas |
Yupster |
Oct-20-03 03:56 PM |
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and further |
9215 |
Oct-20-03 01:50 PM |
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Is that why Bush tried to make Tower |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 01:56 PM |
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Google "Tower Commission" |
9215 |
Oct-20-03 08:12 PM |
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Oh dear... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 01:43 PM |
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Why am I not surprised that a Clark loving Dean supporter would be |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 02:46 PM |
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Once again, the rules prevent me from posting an appropriate reply |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:54 PM |
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Why not just try another lame appeal to ridicule? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:12 PM |
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Shoo! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:15 PM |
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Answering you within a single thread is stalking? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:35 PM |
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Convenient how you forget about the other day... n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:38 PM |
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What about the "other day"? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:59 PM |
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other: a sad day and an abyss of sorrow |
JohnKleeb |
Oct-20-03 01:48 PM |
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I echo that n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 01:49 PM |
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The good always die before their time for the most part and before they |
JohnKleeb |
Oct-20-03 01:52 PM |
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Yeah. RFK also had an unfortunate accident. (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 02:48 PM |
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Sure funny how many small planes have crashed over the years.... |
AntiCoup2k |
Oct-20-03 01:49 PM |
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Small Aircraft Crash At a Higher Rate Because Most are Piloted |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 01:55 PM |
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An anecdote: |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 01:59 PM |
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It Takes A Disciplined Pilot To Tell a Customer No |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:03 PM |
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Both Paul and Sheila Wellstone were afraid of flying |
dflprincess |
Oct-20-03 08:16 PM |
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You are ignorant. Wellstone's pilot had another pilot convince Wellstone |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 02:51 PM |
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I watched coverage of the accident |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 02:04 PM |
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the weather in Minnesota in late October |
MrsMatt |
Oct-20-03 08:10 PM |
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Because you haven't investigated the accident. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 02:49 PM |
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And you have |
MrsMatt |
Oct-22-03 01:46 PM |
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Pilot |
TKP |
Oct-20-03 03:20 PM |
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You are ignorant. Wellstone's pilot was NOT going to fly into Duluth |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 02:55 PM |
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dork |
TKP |
Oct-22-03 03:53 PM |
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Except the weather didn't change drastically that day. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:58 PM |
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Don't forget Mel Carnahan's death |
Wwagsthedog |
Oct-20-03 01:49 PM |
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Ashcroft also benefited from another dems death in 1976. |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 11:56 AM |
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I Am a Commercial Pilot And Would Love To Believe Bush Did It |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 01:50 PM |
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As I'm not myself a pilot, |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 02:16 PM |
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Stall Speed Increases With Accumulated Wing Ice |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:24 PM |
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There WAS NO FUCKING ICE. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:04 PM |
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Then Why Did the NTSB List Icing As a Possible Contributing Factor? |
mhr |
Oct-21-03 06:19 PM |
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Because anything's possible? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:25 PM |
#304 |
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Stalls |
TKP |
Oct-20-03 03:30 PM |
#81 |
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My guess is the cause was |
Yupster |
Oct-20-03 04:00 PM |
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And weather sure wasn't the major factor because the weather was just |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:06 PM |
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The plane was more than 40 mph under the recommended approach speed! |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:01 PM |
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liberals and leftists are just "accident prone" I guess... |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 01:53 PM |
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General-aviation fatalities in 2002: |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 01:55 PM |
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True |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 02:02 PM |
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the opposite is also true |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 02:04 PM |
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I am undecided |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 02:05 PM |
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I don't disagree |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 02:08 PM |
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OK how many congressmen or Senators |
Corgigal |
Oct-20-03 04:36 PM |
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I don't know, tbh. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 07:16 PM |
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When The Aircraft Crashed, The Engines Were Running And |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:10 PM |
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There is no evidence to support any conclusion. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:11 PM |
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Aircraft Of This Type ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE CVR, CDR |
mhr |
Oct-21-03 06:17 PM |
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You are correct that they are not required. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:38 PM |
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That is true |
Yupster |
Oct-20-03 04:03 PM |
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"People die in plane crashes every day..." |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 02:07 PM |
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In the abscence of proof... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 02:10 PM |
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Why? Where is the proof that it was an accident? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:15 PM |
#186 |
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*No* proof? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:01 PM |
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Highly safe plane, fine weather, unexplained off course turning, |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:25 PM |
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Why do you persist in your denial about the weather. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:34 PM |
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Above freezing, no wind, 3-4 miles visibility, trace fog. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:47 PM |
#248 |
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You are simply FACTUALLY wrong.... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 05:29 PM |
#266 |
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Yes, I failed to mention the one factor that COULD possibly have |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:39 PM |
#272 |
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Oh no, he's *never* wrong |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:39 PM |
#273 |
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Jakey is a fine steward of the facts. As for you, |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:42 PM |
#276 |
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Maybe Democrats Perish In Aircraft Accidents More Often Because |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:15 PM |
#39 |
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Maybe, but Wellstone's King Air A100 |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 02:18 PM |
#41 |
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That's Not The Point |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:32 PM |
#51 |
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Wellstone's plane had two pilots, |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 02:45 PM |
#62 |
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If You Want To Counter The Facts And Believe a Myth, Fine |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:47 PM |
#63 |
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If you want to believe something without any evidence or explantion, fine. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:26 PM |
#193 |
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Murder happens, too. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:16 PM |
#187 |
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But the primary pilot |
MrsMatt |
Oct-20-03 08:16 PM |
#137 |
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I wonder if Republican congresscritters |
Yupster |
Oct-20-03 04:04 PM |
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How many of these casualties were in King Air A-100s? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:03 PM |
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15 |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:46 PM |
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8 of these 15 died in the Wellstone crash. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:06 PM |
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Once again, 3rd-grade math wasn't wasted on you! n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:20 PM |
#302 |
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Too bad I can't say the same for you and Logic 101. (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:29 PM |
#306 |
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If I'd seen you use any, i might be wounded by your reply. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:31 PM |
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Let us also not forget |
BikeDeck |
Oct-20-03 02:09 PM |
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What the FUCK is this supposed to mean? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:20 PM |
#189 |
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What does it mean? |
BikeDeck |
Oct-21-03 03:27 PM |
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Every event "contributes" to every subsequent event in this way. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:32 PM |
#199 |
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no |
BikeDeck |
Oct-21-03 03:34 PM |
#201 |
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Never forget |
BikeDeck |
Oct-21-03 03:46 PM |
#210 |
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As is well-known but not commonly acknowledged |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 02:19 PM |
#42 |
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Appeal to ridicule. (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:27 PM |
#195 |
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Oh dear God!!!! |
Perky |
Oct-20-03 02:22 PM |
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Yes. Because Vince Foster was killed mysteriously, we must never |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:36 PM |
#202 |
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Vince Foster blew his own brains out! n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:04 PM |
#224 |
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Yes. Because Kenneth Starr said so, it must be true. (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:27 PM |
#234 |
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No |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:31 PM |
#237 |
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Yep, just like Enron's J. Clifford Baxter ... |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:14 PM |
#261 |
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Let's not forget Elvis |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:29 PM |
#265 |
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What about Elvis' death was less than self-evident? (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:41 PM |
#274 |
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What is not self-evident about the Wellstone crash? n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:49 PM |
#279 |
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Let's see. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:09 PM |
#293 |
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let's see |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:13 PM |
#295 |
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Yep. Because you say so. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:28 PM |
#305 |
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Need it to wash down your Thorazine and Haldol? n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:32 PM |
#308 |
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You gotta be kidding |
Loyal |
Oct-20-03 02:26 PM |
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Yankees suck |
Perky |
Oct-20-03 02:29 PM |
#49 |
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Don't you realize that the Bushes assasinated |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 02:34 PM |
#53 |
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David Letterman joke |
Yupster |
Oct-20-03 04:07 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-20-03 02:28 PM |
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ALL "Conspiracy Theories"? |
Bridget Burke |
Oct-20-03 02:44 PM |
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The Paul Wellstone crash was not an accident |
Pastiche423 |
Oct-20-03 02:32 PM |
#50 |
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This Proves Nothing, It Is Only An Opinion |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:33 PM |
#52 |
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Was what happened to Paul |
Pastiche423 |
Oct-20-03 02:39 PM |
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Look at this from May 25, 2001: |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 02:36 PM |
#54 |
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This Can Hardly Be Called a Serious Source |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 02:40 PM |
#56 |
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Jesus Christ, people... |
DealsGapRider |
Oct-20-03 02:40 PM |
#57 |
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I can't believe the results of poll - you guys are embarassing me |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 02:40 PM |
#58 |
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The RW already thinks most of us are wack jobs |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 02:48 PM |
#64 |
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No shit. |
DealsGapRider |
Oct-20-03 02:51 PM |
#66 |
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Wow! Not another "rational" coincidence theorist! (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:33 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-21-03 03:28 PM |
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The new rules prevent me from making the reply your post deserves! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:17 PM |
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It's not just us. Members of Congress |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 02:49 PM |
#65 |
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Michael Ruppert |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 02:58 PM |
#69 |
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we have all wondered from time to time |
newsjunkie |
Oct-20-03 02:59 PM |
#70 |
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A fellow Minnesotan thinks otherwise |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:01 PM |
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The weather cleared after the pilot made that statement |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 03:11 PM |
#75 |
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Why ignore what Oberman said? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:19 PM |
#78 |
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I was merely correcting the misperception |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 03:30 PM |
#82 |
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There was no misperception |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:34 PM |
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Read the NTSB report. The pilot was talking about conditions in DULUTH |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:03 PM |
#257 |
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I bet the other pilot was in on the conspiracy |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:31 PM |
#267 |
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Straw man. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:50 PM |
#280 |
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Wrong, my lil' buckaroo! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:55 PM |
#282 |
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Your whole purpose here is obvious |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 09:25 PM |
#337 |
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Get your facts straight |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 04:54 AM |
#346 |
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Using the conspiracy theory to justify the conspiracy theory |
birdman |
Oct-22-03 05:03 AM |
#347 |
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Mmmm hmmm... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 07:22 AM |
#349 |
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Does anyone have a single shred |
Pastiche423 |
Oct-20-03 03:01 PM |
#72 |
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That's nonsensical |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:06 PM |
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The burden of proof is on the conspiratorials |
birdman |
Oct-20-03 03:10 PM |
#74 |
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Ain't that the truth? n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:11 PM |
#76 |
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He means those accusing of a conspiracy must prove it. |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 03:35 PM |
#86 |
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They would, if they could |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:38 PM |
#88 |
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What is sad it that your mindset that all mysterious plane crashes MUST |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:41 PM |
#204 |
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care to *prove* that statement? n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 03:51 PM |
#213 |
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It's never happened in Africa or Indonesia or the USSR. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:54 PM |
#215 |
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Do you need the word 'proof' defined for you? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:06 PM |
#225 |
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Can you prove that you are really a Dean supporter? (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:29 PM |
#235 |
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See post #58 |
Pastiche423 |
Oct-20-03 03:14 PM |
#77 |
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Post #58 says: |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:21 PM |
#80 |
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By pointing out truth in the midst of what I guess are a bunch of wackos |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 03:34 PM |
#83 |
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Yep |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:36 PM |
#87 |
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us wackos also know of a Salem Bin Laden |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 03:40 PM |
#91 |
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OK |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:46 PM |
#94 |
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Dude they're in on it too don't you know? |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 07:23 PM |
#126 |
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Appeal to ridicule (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:44 PM |
#208 |
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Spoken like a true Clarkie |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:43 PM |
#207 |
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LOL - learn what proving a negative means |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 03:38 PM |
#89 |
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Wait... am I misunderstanding you? |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 03:40 PM |
#90 |
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Yes, you're misunderstanding me |
Padraig18 |
Oct-20-03 03:44 PM |
#93 |
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Well, in the words of Jack Nicholson.... |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 07:18 PM |
#122 |
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Asking for proof it was an accident is NOT proving a negative. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:45 PM |
#209 |
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It's an OPINION POLL, not a fucking grand jury indictment |
0rganism |
Oct-20-03 07:21 PM |
#124 |
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Yet you believe it was an accident without any explanation. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:18 PM |
#188 |
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The "explanation" that matters.... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 03:26 PM |
#191 |
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Really? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:47 PM |
#211 |
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It seems that I read... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 03:49 PM |
#212 |
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The right question to ask, still theoretical |
JackRiddler |
Oct-20-03 03:42 PM |
#92 |
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excellent post |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 03:59 PM |
#99 |
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Must Take Eception - As a Pilot, There is No Credible Evidence |
mhr |
Oct-20-03 05:17 PM |
#115 |
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You're answering as a pilot, |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 07:54 PM |
#132 |
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They set up a stronger VOR beacon in the woods to draw the plane |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:53 PM |
#214 |
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*proof*? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 03:56 PM |
#218 |
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There is no proof either way. I was just countering the claim that |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:31 PM |
#236 |
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In the absence of any factual evidence of this 'theory' |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:43 PM |
#245 |
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Like your accident theory? (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:49 PM |
# |
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The only thing that is ridiculous around here.... |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 07:19 PM |
#123 |
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Like the accident theory you're hyping? (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:55 PM |
#216 |
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This is pretty embarrassing. |
Skinner |
Oct-20-03 03:58 PM |
#98 |
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Admin. |
TKP |
Oct-20-03 04:45 PM |
#108 |
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Yes we are a bunch a kooks |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 04:58 PM |
#110 |
   -
Godwin's Law |
theemu |
Oct-20-03 09:00 PM |
#145 |
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whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost |
Must_B_Free |
Oct-21-03 03:28 PM |
#196 |
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wait a minute... the US *is* fascist :) |
Selwynn |
Oct-20-03 07:22 PM |
#125 |
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I concur. |
goobergunch |
Oct-20-03 05:28 PM |
#117 |
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No different than freeps blaming Clinton |
AquariDem |
Oct-20-03 05:32 PM |
#118 |
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Not really because there is no definitive proof either way |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Oct-21-03 11:40 AM |
#169 |
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Appeal to authority (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 03:56 PM |
#217 |
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He was basically killed by McGaa...he wouldn't have had to work so hard |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Oct-20-03 04:20 PM |
#104 |
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I agree |
Loyal |
Oct-20-03 04:22 PM |
#105 |
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Hi <waves> |
Cheswick |
Oct-20-03 04:39 PM |
#107 |
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Heres why |
onebigbadwulf |
Oct-20-03 05:01 PM |
#111 |
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Funny how they are |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-20-03 05:15 PM |
#113 |
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Yes. Silly us! |
VermontDem2004 |
Oct-20-03 05:16 PM |
#114 |
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PLEASE read this article |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-20-03 05:08 PM |
#112 |
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Gary Caradori |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 06:51 PM |
#119 |
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I had never heard that story |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-20-03 07:36 PM |
#130 |
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Kick |
gully |
Oct-20-03 07:14 PM |
#120 |
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Thanks for This Poll! |
DoveTurnedHawk |
Oct-20-03 07:26 PM |
#127 |
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Double or nothing |
InkAddict |
Oct-20-03 07:32 PM |
#128 |
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This is ridiculous |
NewJerseyDem |
Oct-20-03 07:32 PM |
#129 |
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Did you read Al Franken's book |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-20-03 07:44 PM |
#131 |
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How long you been on the board? |
9215 |
Oct-20-03 10:12 PM |
#147 |
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Irrelevant - if you have credible evidence, post it now. |
Selwynn |
Oct-21-03 09:55 AM |
#158 |
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"hard concrete evidence"? |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 10:18 AM |
#162 |
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Yes. I do hold everything to the standard of credible evidence.... |
Selwynn |
Oct-22-03 03:27 PM |
#416 |
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Please post your hard, concrete evidence that Wellstone's plane crashed |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:33 PM |
#238 |
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The burden of proof is on you to prove a conspriacy. |
Selwynn |
Oct-22-03 03:28 PM |
#417 |
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Bullshit. We are discussing two competing speculative theories. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:34 PM |
#423 |
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Wait a minute - |
bitchkitty |
Oct-21-03 11:50 AM |
#170 |
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your false assumptions, not mine... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-21-03 05:42 PM |
#275 |
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This might sway your opinion on that... |
Zhade |
Oct-22-03 04:08 AM |
#345 |
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An FBI team was |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-20-03 07:56 PM |
#133 |
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omg. n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-20-03 08:16 PM |
#136 |
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more on the FBI's arrival: |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 11:53 AM |
#171 |
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yoo hoo, coincidence theorists - up here. |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 07:36 PM |
#327 |
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HOT!!! FBI nailed for stealing evidence from WTC crime scene!! |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 08:44 PM |
#334 |
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good catch! |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 09:38 PM |
#338 |
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This topic is a clusterfuck! |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 11:17 AM |
#359 |
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From: "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" by Greg Palast |
dflprincess |
Oct-20-03 08:25 PM |
#139 |
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In the end, it's a "gut" feeling |
RBHam |
Oct-20-03 08:28 PM |
#140 |
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But the authorities ruled out foul play, and they wouldn't lie. |
nu_duer |
Oct-20-03 08:33 PM |
#141 |
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I said undecided, though I lean towards "planned" |
GOPBasher |
Oct-20-03 08:47 PM |
#143 |
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I really do not know |
quaker bill |
Oct-20-03 08:52 PM |
#144 |
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Wellstone was a serious threat to Halliburton/Dresser . |
9215 |
Oct-20-03 09:37 PM |
#146 |
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The suspicion that it was an assassination |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-20-03 10:51 PM |
#148 |
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"Who is this chickenshit"? Poppy on Wellstone |
9215 |
Oct-20-03 10:51 PM |
#149 |
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incredibly heartbreaking. |
srpantalonas |
Oct-20-03 11:12 PM |
#150 |
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kicking |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 07:32 AM |
#151 |
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"Paul Wellstone is a hunted man" |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 09:22 AM |
#152 |
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and Rove handpicked Wellstone's opponent |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 12:47 PM |
#173 |
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i'm satisfied they were murdered |
amazona |
Oct-21-03 09:27 AM |
#153 |
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So then all the news people |
birdman |
Oct-21-03 09:31 AM |
#154 |
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Good question |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 09:50 AM |
#157 |
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Wolf Blitzer kept stressing weather; reporter on the scene did not: |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 09:59 AM |
#159 |
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Thanks, Please see my post #160 |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 10:15 AM |
#161 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-21-03 10:41 AM |
#163 |
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Fallacy: appeal to ridicule |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 10:51 AM |
#164 |
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We are exploring possibilities here. |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 11:02 AM |
#165 |
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Gee... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-21-03 05:57 PM |
#284 |
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ABC News, Dec 1, 2000: "US, Colombia Deny Assassination Attempt" |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-21-03 09:39 AM |
#155 |
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I blame some guy |
realpolitik |
Oct-21-03 09:45 AM |
#156 |
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"Expert".......a CIA plant? |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 10:11 AM |
#160 |
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Wow. |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-21-03 11:20 AM |
#166 |
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Should the Nav lights have been on? |
JetJaguar |
Oct-21-03 11:37 AM |
#167 |
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I Am a Commercial Pilot, Navigation Lights Are Not Used During Daylight |
mhr |
Oct-21-03 03:26 PM |
#192 |
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Perhaps I'm mistaken, but... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 03:38 PM |
#203 |
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Those May Be Company Requirements However |
mhr |
Oct-21-03 06:14 PM |
#296 |
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Nothing in the Middle... |
MrPrax |
Oct-21-03 11:39 AM |
#168 |
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I thin democarcy ALREADY has wound up like the Roman Senate |
tom_paine |
Oct-21-03 11:53 AM |
#172 |
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What strikes me as odd here |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 03:25 PM |
#190 |
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Make that 3... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 03:31 PM |
#198 |
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4, actually |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 03:43 PM |
#206 |
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And we have a bunch of Clark sympathizers leading the charge against |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:07 PM |
#226 |
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Without question? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:02 PM |
#223 |
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Yup...without question... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 04:09 PM |
#228 |
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So you reject ANY POSSIBILITY of pilot incapacitation? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:39 PM |
#241 |
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The topic was your contention... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 04:57 PM |
#256 |
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No, the topic was you contention that the weather was DEFINITELY |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:07 PM |
#258 |
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You just don't get it.... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 05:18 PM |
#263 |
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IF the cause was pilot error, then the low clouds/fog were |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:33 PM |
#268 |
  -
If the cause was "pilot incapacitation".... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 05:54 PM |
#281 |
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Damn you and your inconvenient facts, Jakey! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:08 PM |
#292 |
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Nice rejoinder, helium! |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:22 PM |
#303 |
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You've got those final radar returns for me, Jakey? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:19 PM |
#301 |
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I've repeatedly tried to explain... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:42 PM |
#277 |
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The weather was not fine so will you stop saying that! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:15 PM |
#231 |
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Above freezing, no wind, 3-4 miles of visibility, no other planes reported |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:36 PM |
#240 |
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Sweet Jesus on a pogo stick! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:46 PM |
#246 |
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Padraig...there ARE indications of.. |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 04:49 PM |
#249 |
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Except there was an inversion layer and it was above freezing to about |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:52 PM |
#252 |
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All irrelevant...... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 04:47 PM |
#247 |
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Thanks for bringing sanity and knowledge into this debate, Jakey. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:56 PM |
#255 |
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"WE" are trying dog.... n/t |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 05:08 PM |
#259 |
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As a Commercial Pilot, There is Nothing to Prevent a Pilot |
mhr |
Oct-21-03 03:41 PM |
#205 |
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Okay! |
JackRiddler |
Oct-21-03 06:06 PM |
#289 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-21-03 03:59 PM |
#221 |
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No, I understand perfectly well. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:09 PM |
#227 |
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So planes were falling out of the sky across the state that day? |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:40 PM |
#243 |
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What do you not comprehend? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 04:50 PM |
#250 |
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That the weather certainly wasn't a primary cause of the accident. (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 04:54 PM |
#253 |
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Just one who's crew competency is in serious contention... n/t |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 04:51 PM |
#251 |
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This whole thread makes me sad.... |
Abaques |
Oct-21-03 05:25 PM |
#264 |
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Read and analyze everything the NTSB has released. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 05:55 PM |
#283 |
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Nor have you. n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 05:57 PM |
#285 |
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Hi Padraig18, Me Thinks Stickdog Has Little Practical Understanding |
mhr |
Oct-21-03 06:36 PM |
#309 |
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Oh no! *gasp* |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:43 PM |
#312 |
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Yeah, a VOR is truly a sophisticated, futuristic thing. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:48 PM |
#315 |
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The weather was stable that day. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 06:43 PM |
#313 |
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And MEthinks... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 06:55 PM |
#317 |
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Hand waver! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 07:00 PM |
#318 |
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Thanks, helium. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 07:00 PM |
#319 |
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A site with some manner of evidence? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 07:06 PM |
#321 |
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Eveleth's "stable" weather.... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 07:40 PM |
#328 |
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Wow, what a violent "weather system"! |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 07:48 PM |
#330 |
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Fallacy: Appeal to ridicule |
Padraig18 |
Oct-21-03 07:52 PM |
#331 |
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Nope...just very low variable ceilings... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 08:02 PM |
#332 |
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Look. Slightly changing low cloud cover COULD have been a factor. |
stickdog |
Oct-21-03 09:23 PM |
#336 |
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Oh fer chrissakes..... |
Jakey |
Oct-21-03 09:54 PM |
#339 |
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72% to 28% (nt) |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 01:47 AM |
#340 |
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Yes, 72% are indeed stupid |
Selwynn |
Oct-22-03 03:30 PM |
#418 |
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Of course, you are smart enough to rule out explanations without evidence. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:39 PM |
#427 |
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Thanks for your concern |
Bridget Burke |
Oct-21-03 05:59 PM |
#286 |
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Well, I don't know what that other poster thinks about LIHOP |
theemu |
Oct-22-03 08:08 AM |
#351 |
   -
You're probably right.... |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 08:36 AM |
#353 |
   -
Yeah. A more complex and nuanced analysis would reveal that Bush |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 01:41 PM |
#379 |
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An example.... |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 08:34 AM |
#352 |
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"The noble guy in a train" |
JackRiddler |
Oct-21-03 06:15 PM |
#297 |
  -
Backed into a corner? |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 08:51 AM |
#356 |
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sad? or guilty? |
9215 |
Oct-21-03 09:00 PM |
#335 |
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Laziness? |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 08:45 AM |
#354 |
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Here is something think about: |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 11:38 AM |
#360 |
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No.... |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 01:15 PM |
#372 |
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What is your explanation for what happened? |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 01:49 PM |
#381 |
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No, *YOU* tell us how the 'murder' happened. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 02:09 PM |
#388 |
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This is a debate, not a court of law. I'm not looking for a conviction. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:12 PM |
#406 |
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My explanation, which you have repeatedly ignored... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:17 PM |
#408 |
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Those are meaningless words. Produce a narrative explanation. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:26 PM |
#415 |
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You can wait until hell freezes over-- it's there, read it! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:33 PM |
#422 |
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Losing an argument so completely tends to do that. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:45 PM |
#430 |
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Everything you just posted was circumstancial evidence... |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 02:18 PM |
#390 |
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Where is your concrete evidence that this was an accident? |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:19 PM |
#410 |
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way buddy.... |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 05:13 PM |
#445 |
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Even people who are totally A-political knew something |
loudsue |
Oct-21-03 08:13 PM |
#333 |
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The poll gave 3 options |
nomatrix |
Oct-22-03 01:54 AM |
#341 |
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Al, I must say that C should have been the most popular pick, IMHO (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 02:33 AM |
#342 |
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I'm sorry Stickdog |
nomatrix |
Oct-22-03 03:09 AM |
#344 |
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Use of tin foil hat |
nomatrix |
Oct-22-03 02:52 AM |
#343 |
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Pattern of conduct |
Corgigal |
Oct-22-03 07:49 AM |
#350 |
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The FBI, the intense fire in the fuselage, the blue smoke - anybody? |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 08:48 AM |
#355 |
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Don't forget that all mention of the FBI was redacted from the police logs |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 10:06 AM |
#357 |
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Hoofbeats mean horses |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 12:19 PM |
#363 |
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How does that square with this |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 12:56 PM |
#366 |
  -
My goal |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 01:01 PM |
#368 |
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Fetzer's Reply: If You Hear Hundreds of Hoofbeats, Think Predator Hunting |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 01:35 PM |
#377 |
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Another voice of sanity |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 12:25 PM |
#364 |
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So I take it you've nothing to say regarding |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 12:53 PM |
#365 |
  -
Links to back up *ALL* the things you 'assert', please? n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 12:57 PM |
#367 |
   -
"Reinvent the wheel tactic": |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 01:02 PM |
#369 |
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No |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 01:12 PM |
#371 |
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Look to the original posts, I listed their numbers for your convenience |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 01:20 PM |
#374 |
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Jim fetzer? PROFESSOR Jim Fetzer from MN? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 01:26 PM |
#375 |
  -
Is ad hominem all you have? |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 01:34 PM |
#376 |
   -
Is that all YOU have? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 01:56 PM |
#384 |
  -
You know that's not true. |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 02:27 PM |
#392 |
  -
A complete and total refutation of Fetzer's 'reasoning'. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 02:34 PM |
#393 |
  -
You still haven't addressed facts such as |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 02:46 PM |
#396 |
   -
For the simple reason that... |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:01 PM |
#402 |
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Somehow I think nothing short of an |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 03:05 PM |
#403 |
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You should have stopped when you started listening to whack job Fetzer! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:18 PM |
#409 |
  -
Yeah, he's a professor who doesn't believe Oswald acted alone. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:23 PM |
#412 |
   -
Lack of coimplete disclosure |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:26 PM |
#414 |
  -
Really? Or are you just taking his speculations out of context? (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:30 PM |
#419 |
  -
Prove me wrong. n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:35 PM |
#424 |
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You make an unsupported assertion as part of your ad hominem attack. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:42 PM |
#429 |
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Odd time for you to finally pay attenmtion to my 'burden of proof' arg's |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:47 PM |
#431 |
  -
Just wondering, Padraig18: |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 03:55 PM |
#438 |
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Yes |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:58 PM |
#440 |
  -
Thanks for the answer, |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 04:04 PM |
#443 |
  -
The ravings of a lunatic. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 02:51 PM |
#399 |
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If anyone is a lunatic, it's Fetzer! |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:23 PM |
#413 |
  -
Avoiding the point again, Padraig18? (NT) |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:31 PM |
#421 |
  -
You HAD a point? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:36 PM |
#425 |
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Let us know how that lawsuit turns out. Discovery is a wonderful thing. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 02:12 PM |
#389 |
  -
Professor Fetzer's CV: Whack job with an advanced degree |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:07 PM |
#404 |
  -
"unusual" blue smoke? |
TrogL |
Oct-22-03 02:48 PM |
#398 |
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It was described as "light blue" and coming from the fuselage, |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 02:58 PM |
#401 |
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Like hell you didn't |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:10 PM |
#405 |
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like hell I did |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 03:14 PM |
#407 |
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Apology |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:22 PM |
#411 |
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same here |
TrogL |
Oct-22-03 03:40 PM |
#428 |
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apologies appreciated |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 03:48 PM |
#432 |
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Ain't it the truth? |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:55 PM |
#436 |
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How does that square with this: |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 01:09 PM |
#370 |
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No |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 01:19 PM |
#373 |
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Planes with Bush's number one political enemy on them do not crash |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 02:06 PM |
#386 |
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Conspiracy denier eh? |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 06:21 PM |
#446 |
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Excellent analysis |
TrogL |
Oct-22-03 01:49 PM |
#382 |
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How about the simple murder of a man with thousands of bitter enemies? |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 02:00 PM |
#385 |
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You haven't proven it's murder. |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 02:07 PM |
#387 |
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I haven't even alleged murder. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 02:36 PM |
#394 |
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Not true |
Abaques |
Oct-22-03 02:47 PM |
#397 |
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You haven't done anything except whine that I don't have absolute proof -- |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:52 PM |
#434 |
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I suggest that it is *your* logic that is flawed |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 02:54 PM |
#400 |
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Attempting to crash a plane isn't murder? |
TrogL |
Oct-22-03 04:03 PM |
#442 |
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Colombo? |
TrogL |
Oct-22-03 02:24 PM |
#391 |
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Columbo |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 02:41 PM |
#395 |
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I take it I'm not supposed to take you at face value |
TrogL |
Oct-22-03 03:31 PM |
#420 |
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His point is being heavy on questions and light on answers. n/t |
Padraig18 |
Oct-22-03 03:37 PM |
#426 |
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Here is the entire debate. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 01:52 PM |
#383 |
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I'll PROVE now for once and for all that it was FOUL PLAY |
Must_B_Free |
Oct-22-03 03:49 PM |
#433 |
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All of the false weather reports are what put me on the trail as well. |
stickdog |
Oct-22-03 03:55 PM |
#437 |
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In all these 400 posts |
Capn Sunshine |
Oct-22-03 06:48 PM |
#448 |
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good point. |
Minstrel Boy |
Oct-22-03 04:01 PM |
#441 |
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I suppose the irony escapes you |
TrogL |
Oct-22-03 04:08 PM |
#444 |
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Conspiracy deniers relying on totally corrupt NTSB |
9215 |
Oct-22-03 06:41 PM |
#447 |
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Locking this thread and openig continuation for discussion ... |
TahitiNut |
Oct-22-03 07:08 PM |
#449 |
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Fixed link to continuation thread ... |
TahitiNut |
Oct-22-03 08:36 PM |
#451 |
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Just PROVE it |
KFC |
Oct-22-03 07:09 PM |
#450 |