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Tue Dec-13-05 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #81 |
| 111. You're missing the point. |
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You know why black people don't vote Republican? First, cause Republicans don't do shit for them, and second, because of the obvious fucking distain that most Republicans hold for black people. Now, as yourself the same question about why poor white rednecks don't vote Dem. It's the same answers, innit?
It's not about white people being oppressed, it's about understanding why we persist in alienating a big chunk of the country.
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| -As someone who is descended from these "ignorant redneck fundies"... |
tjwash |
Dec-13-05 12:11 PM |
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what would be your description of choice... |
ret5hd |
Dec-13-05 12:18 PM |
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Nice personal attack. n/t |
tasteblind |
Dec-13-05 12:34 PM |
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no, seriously...you have misinterpreted... |
ret5hd |
Dec-13-05 12:39 PM |
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Oh, I see. |
tasteblind |
Dec-13-05 12:50 PM |
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KKKrisitans - it seperates them from the Christians they've tried |
BR_Parkway |
Dec-14-05 05:52 AM |
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And how would you describe someone who votes against |
rkc3 |
Dec-13-05 12:38 PM |
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How's this for voting against your own self interests? |
leeroysphits |
Dec-13-05 07:10 PM |
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I've seen that here in my part of Michigan too.... |
erinlough |
Dec-13-05 07:19 PM |
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SImple Answer: UAW members make a LOT of money |
wixomblues |
Dec-14-05 07:28 AM |
#118 |
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Republicans? |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 12:47 PM |
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'Redneck' isn't a racial slur |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 01:07 PM |
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I agree that it is a class slur |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 01:14 PM |
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I think one CAN stop being a redneck |
Ron_Green |
Dec-13-05 01:46 PM |
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Is open-mindedness really a decision? |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 01:52 PM |
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"Walk a mile in my shoes" |
Ron_Green |
Dec-13-05 02:11 PM |
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Coming from a like background myself... |
misanthrope |
Dec-13-05 03:26 PM |
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No, you can be a redneck without working outdoors |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 02:28 PM |
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Class isn't something you can put on or take off like a pair of shoes. |
QC |
Dec-13-05 01:22 PM |
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I call as your witness The Beverly Hillbillies |
eeyore |
Dec-13-05 01:54 PM |
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But the hillbillies in that show were more keen, more wise |
Clark2008 |
Dec-13-05 02:32 PM |
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But they weren't rednecks |
LostinVA |
Dec-13-05 03:38 PM |
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Oh, absolutely |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 02:50 PM |
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actually i have seen a handful of pickups with redneck in bold |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 01:55 PM |
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They call us "liberal elitists". |
distantearlywarning |
Dec-13-05 02:07 PM |
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They call them redneck aristocrats |
The Flaming Red Head |
Dec-13-05 06:22 PM |
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Don't black folks sometimes call themselves |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 03:02 PM |
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Yes, and they aren't being racist when they do it |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 03:07 PM |
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That's the way I see it, too. |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 03:09 PM |
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Well, since you're a liberal 'elite' |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 03:11 PM |
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but then seeing how we ar epc dems, you should have on sunscreen |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 03:16 PM |
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lol lol grannie, i will remember that n/t |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 03:15 PM |
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I work with a couple of guys who are originally from TN. |
dogfacedboy |
Dec-14-05 08:51 AM |
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then n word is its own special..... with its whole history. |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 03:12 PM |
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I think it's becoming more of a culture/political term |
LostinVA |
Dec-13-05 03:36 PM |
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Amen, TG. |
The_Mule |
Dec-14-05 09:53 AM |
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Wilderness fundies? (I tried.) |
Festivito |
Dec-13-05 05:17 PM |
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The unenlightened? |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 05:51 PM |
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what a totally excellent rant. i so appreciate and value what you |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 12:28 PM |
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Racism comes in all colors |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 12:29 PM |
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My black and gay neighbors aren't trying to impose their |
High Plains |
Dec-13-05 01:07 PM |
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I honestly sympathize with the emotion that accompanies your |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 01:24 PM |
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I don't believe every Southern Baptist (or whatever) is a threat to |
High Plains |
Dec-13-05 01:37 PM |
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I'm sorry you feel alienated in your own country. |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 01:50 PM |
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Thanks for the kind thoughts. |
High Plains |
Dec-13-05 02:10 PM |
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Brava from Tennessee!! |
Clark2008 |
Dec-13-05 02:33 PM |
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Do you really believe if we're nice to them they'll start thinking? |
redqueen |
Dec-13-05 04:27 PM |
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I think the people you are talking about |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 05:49 PM |
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Well when you say "ignorant fundie rednecks" that's who I think of. |
redqueen |
Dec-14-05 10:16 AM |
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They aren't a race or a class; they are a culture and a mindset |
Lorien |
Dec-13-05 04:50 PM |
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You wrote |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 06:16 PM |
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Another thread that apparently inspired this one |
Lorien |
Dec-13-05 07:17 PM |
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Oh...thanks |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 07:18 PM |
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If you were talking about me, just say so. |
distantearlywarning |
Dec-13-05 12:30 PM |
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I'll gladly point the middle finger at myself, however, |
antifaschits |
Dec-13-05 12:34 PM |
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So am I but |
tularetom |
Dec-13-05 12:40 PM |
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Its a way to feel superior to others-to set oneself above the "herd" |
Rowdyboy |
Dec-13-05 12:54 PM |
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Don't all three terms go together, in order to narrow the target group? |
redqueen |
Dec-13-05 04:37 PM |
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Perhaps that brush should have painted those who |
Cleita |
Dec-13-05 12:56 PM |
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Hey |
undergroundpanther |
Dec-13-05 01:13 PM |
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Woooo hooooo! Well Said! KUDOS |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 01:26 PM |
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It tells us he knows where |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 04:39 PM |
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Why are you making this a Southern thing? |
LostinVA |
Dec-14-05 09:31 AM |
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We're only talking about the ignorant ones. |
Abelman |
Dec-13-05 01:27 PM |
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And I have trouble with that word "ignorant" |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 01:45 PM |
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Uh huh. |
distantearlywarning |
Dec-13-05 01:58 PM |
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You just proved my point about stereotyping |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 02:54 PM |
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Well, we've tried reason |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 03:43 PM |
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sorry tallahassee and some you others -- you have a poor |
xchrom |
Dec-13-05 02:08 PM |
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Well, you are right about that. |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 02:42 PM |
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tallahasee, i understand what you're saying -- all i have for you |
xchrom |
Dec-13-05 04:16 PM |
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I'm back. Now you're talking |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 05:45 PM |
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hate everywhere. do we feed it |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 03:03 PM |
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Do you think it is the fact that we have forums like this |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 03:10 PM |
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i think a lot of the polarization comes from the internet |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 03:19 PM |
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i'm not suggesting that we hate |
xchrom |
Dec-13-05 04:09 PM |
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well, i am a lot of things, naive isnt one of them. i hear what you say |
seabeyond |
Dec-13-05 04:35 PM |
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all i can say is good luck. |
xchrom |
Dec-13-05 04:48 PM |
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You know |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 06:06 PM |
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Hang in there, TG! |
The_Mule |
Dec-14-05 10:17 AM |
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"get a good deal tougher -- a good deal tougher -- than we are today" |
redqueen |
Dec-13-05 04:41 PM |
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Totally off topic, but... |
distantearlywarning |
Dec-13-05 06:56 PM |
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Wow... thanks! |
redqueen |
Dec-14-05 10:17 AM |
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Let's see |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 06:00 PM |
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That's not the kind of liberal I am. |
distantearlywarning |
Dec-13-05 06:58 PM |
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You remind me of my concept of Jesus |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 07:02 PM |
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How can you "descend" from redneck fundies? |
Squatch |
Dec-13-05 02:32 PM |
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Well, my great grandfather |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 02:59 PM |
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We need to learn to relate to and persuade the uneducated and |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-13-05 03:01 PM |
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It's better to take aim at the top of the GOP than at the bottom. |
ReadTomPaine |
Dec-13-05 03:28 PM |
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how about the term "Dullards"? |
maxsolomon |
Dec-13-05 03:29 PM |
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Sorry, my family are a bunch of ignorant, redneck fundies |
LostinVA |
Dec-13-05 03:32 PM |
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You know, we need a better term than 'homophobic' |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-13-05 03:57 PM |
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I agree with you -- I actually thought that when I wrote the post |
LostinVA |
Dec-13-05 04:13 PM |
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I'm sorry you have family who are evil |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 06:21 PM |
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The rednecks I know,... |
misanthrope |
Dec-13-05 03:33 PM |
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I said the same thing in post #56 |
LostinVA |
Dec-13-05 03:41 PM |
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"ignorant redneck fundies", works for me. |
Javaman |
Dec-13-05 03:35 PM |
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I remember... |
misanthrope |
Dec-13-05 03:55 PM |
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exactly |
Javaman |
Dec-13-05 04:21 PM |
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But that's still no defense... |
misanthrope |
Dec-13-05 04:54 PM |
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Ignorance is universal and stupidity is never in short supply. |
Javaman |
Dec-14-05 11:08 AM |
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I am a fundamentalist, redneck and I endorse this message! |
PurgedVoter |
Dec-13-05 03:57 PM |
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Don't know about you... |
misanthrope |
Dec-13-05 04:59 PM |
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Ignorant Redneck Fundies live in ALL States |
new_beawr |
Dec-13-05 04:07 PM |
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And nations |
LostinVA |
Dec-13-05 04:14 PM |
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Briefly saw some show about "Hate Rock" last night |
new_beawr |
Dec-13-05 04:26 PM |
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Appears they are doing well in Australia at the moment as well |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 07:06 PM |
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I live in a part of Michigan that is chock full of "ignorant, redneck, ... |
erinlough |
Dec-13-05 07:12 PM |
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Just to discombobulate everyone... |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-13-05 04:15 PM |
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Dupe deleted |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-13-05 04:17 PM |
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isn't ignorant and fundie somewhat redundant? |
antifaschits |
Dec-13-05 04:19 PM |
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i'm devastated whenever |
sniffa |
Dec-13-05 04:43 PM |
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LOL!!! And still, tjwash can't even be bothered to reply to his/her own.. |
ret5hd |
Dec-13-05 06:17 PM |
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You're missing the point. |
nemo137 |
Dec-13-05 07:46 PM |
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Oh, baloney. |
impeachdubya |
Dec-14-05 12:49 AM |
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We don't alienate them, the GOP and themselves have |
LostinVA |
Dec-14-05 09:37 AM |
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I have become more conscious about this |
Nikia |
Dec-13-05 04:57 PM |
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You make an excellent point |
The Whiskey Priest |
Dec-13-05 04:59 PM |
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Sorry, but ignorant fundies ARE a big problem in this country. |
impeachdubya |
Dec-13-05 05:56 PM |
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I guess I'm just different in how I approach people |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-13-05 06:45 PM |
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Here's the rub... |
impeachdubya |
Dec-14-05 12:33 AM |
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Excellent post n/t |
LostinVA |
Dec-14-05 09:39 AM |
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That was an excellent, impassioned post and good arguments, all |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-14-05 10:57 AM |
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Coincidentally Enough |
impeachdubya |
Dec-14-05 07:43 PM |
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You have hammered me down to a blithering pulp |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Dec-15-05 08:09 AM |
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There's profound truth in what you say. I don't take back |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Dec-14-05 11:50 AM |
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"wrong" in the sentence ending, "....just coming round to |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Dec-14-05 06:02 PM |
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Caucasian is a race, redneck is a condition. n/t |
Lorien |
Dec-13-05 07:18 PM |
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Gotta Link? (nt) |
stepnw1f |
Dec-13-05 07:11 PM |
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Nope! It was another "Post-n-Run". |
impeachdubya |
Dec-14-05 12:38 AM |
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I Figured |
stepnw1f |
Dec-14-05 08:35 AM |
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Your description of your positions |
Jacobin |
Dec-13-05 07:58 PM |
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You're not an ignorant redneck fundie |
No Exit |
Dec-14-05 01:17 AM |
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How do we define redneck? |
newportdadde |
Dec-14-05 10:03 AM |
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At least you get an "ignorant redneck" qualifier |
Inland |
Dec-14-05 12:16 PM |
#132 |