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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 02:06 PM
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71. "I'm very anti-death-penalty" -- except for the people on death row! LOL!
Guess what -- there aren't too many angels on death row.

PROBABLE INNOCENCE CANNOT BE THE STANDARD FOR CLEMENCY! If there was much likelihood of proving that any person facing immanent execution was 100% innocent, the argument would be in favor of releasing him -- not in favor of clemency in the form of life imprisonment without hope of parole. IF YOU EXPECT PROOF OF INNOCENCE AS YOUR STANDARD OF CLEMENCY THEN YOU ARE NOT ANTI-DEATH PENALTY (sorry if I'm the one who has to break that sad news, but please don't kill the messenger-- I CAN prove my innocence).

I am in agreement with you on one point, when you say, "I've been here long enough to see people well into the thousands of posts say things you just wouldn't believe."

Amen to that!
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  -Oh, shit. I was afraid of this. "Took die, the city fry." MnFats  Dec-12-05 12:14 PM   #0 
  - Not in NYC  Stephanie   Dec-12-05 12:16 PM   #1 
  - Harlem Crips are an LA gang  Jed Dilligan   Dec-12-05 12:28 PM   #16 
     - Yup, anyone not familiar with LA gangs would see the names of all  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 12:42 PM   #29 
     - Oh I see  Stephanie   Dec-12-05 12:43 PM   #30 
  - If Tookie is reformed, then he needs to make a statement  Skidmore   Dec-12-05 12:16 PM   #2 
  - He won't . Tookie is all about Tookie.  GrumpyGreg   Dec-12-05 12:22 PM   #12 
  - I tend to agree  incapsulated   Dec-12-05 12:54 PM   #38 
  - He won't  Enraged_Ape   Dec-12-05 12:23 PM   #13 
  - What a load of horsehit. The "provacateurs" are a hell of a lot more  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 12:29 PM   #17 
     - There have been hundreds, maybe thousands, of people...  Enraged_Ape   Dec-12-05 12:51 PM   #35 
        - Once again, the people most likely to be "provacateurs" are the  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 12:58 PM   #41 
           - Don't get me wrong; I'm very anti-death-penalty  Enraged_Ape   Dec-12-05 01:13 PM   #53 
              - Yes, but folks that suddenly appear  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:20 PM   #57 
              - "I'm very anti-death-penalty" -- except for the people on death row! LOL!  Czolgosz   Dec-12-05 02:06 PM   #71 
                 - There is no "very" anti- death penalty.  demokatgurrl   Dec-12-05 02:39 PM   #74 
                 - Exactly  Czolgosz   Dec-12-05 02:46 PM   #76 
                 - Whatever. I hope Tookie doesn't die.  Enraged_Ape   Dec-12-05 06:16 PM   #84 
                 - The sad thing is, there have been a lot of people...  Enraged_Ape   Dec-12-05 06:44 PM   #87 
                    - John Alba, Franklin Alix, Allen Bridgers, Carl Brooks, Eugene Broxton,  Czolgosz   Dec-12-05 08:17 PM   #93 
  - I would be smart for him to do so.  Perky   Dec-12-05 12:36 PM   #26 
  - Good idea. I doubt this will happen, though. n/t  hiaasenrocks   Dec-12-05 12:37 PM   #28 
  - Hey YOU FREEPER SCUM!!!  Texasgal   Dec-12-05 01:02 PM   #44 
     - LOL! Before I saw who posted that...  hiaasenrocks   Dec-12-05 06:48 PM   #88 
  - I don't know. Could work in reverse. It's a no-win situation.  jobycom   Dec-12-05 12:55 PM   #40 
  - He wouldn't be listened to.  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:07 PM   #50 
  - And the only people who this would hurt...  booley   Dec-12-05 12:18 PM   #3 
  - I wonder how much of this is real...  yibbehobba   Dec-12-05 12:18 PM   #6 
  - Exactly! Rioting would just prove the Repukes point---in fact I'll  GrumpyGreg   Dec-12-05 12:20 PM   #9 
  - yep, they can riot all they want..... it won't matter. tookie will be gone  okieinpain   Dec-12-05 12:51 PM   #36 
     - Tookie's not going to do anything to quell the rioting...  Enraged_Ape   Dec-12-05 06:36 PM   #86 
  - Oh, great.  yibbehobba   Dec-12-05 12:18 PM   #4 
  - Just a bunch of criminals looking for any reason to go out on a nice  Nickster   Dec-12-05 12:18 PM   #5 
  - Shoot to kill .....  the_real_38   Dec-12-05 02:48 PM   #77 
  - Yes, b/c violent rioting is well-within the spirit of Took's reformation.  DRoseDARs   Dec-12-05 12:19 PM   #7 
  - So what kind of role model is this guy?  Beelzebud   Dec-12-05 12:20 PM   #8 
  - LOL . . . I love how you try and pin this on him as well.  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 12:27 PM   #14 
     - Pin this on him as well? What was the first thing I pinned on him?  Beelzebud   Dec-12-05 12:30 PM   #18 
        - Then why the snarky heading for your post? n/t  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 12:34 PM   #23 
           - Because apparently these idiots missed the point of why he should not  Beelzebud   Dec-12-05 12:36 PM   #27 
              - I can kind of see that, but your post reads differently than your intent  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:09 PM   #52 
  - I see, stamp out violence with more violence, irony...  AuntPatsy   Dec-12-05 12:20 PM   #10 
  - I was there too. Any chance they'll take the riot into the neighborhoods  greyhound1966   Dec-12-05 12:22 PM   #11 
  - violence is not the answer. i would think that people would have  catmother   Dec-12-05 12:27 PM   #15 
  - killing is not the answer either...  Xenotime   Dec-12-05 01:00 PM   #43 
     - i totally agree. i'm am against the death penalty but if tookie  catmother   Dec-12-05 01:05 PM   #48 
  - I honestly think some people here will be disappointed  ugarte   Dec-12-05 12:31 PM   #19 
  - It'll never happen.  Codeine   Dec-12-05 12:31 PM   #20 
  - I don't think anyone is suggesting  incapsulated   Dec-12-05 01:07 PM   #51 
     - I stand corrected. nt  Codeine   Dec-12-05 01:42 PM   #67 
  - I wonder where the National Guard will come from to handle this.  Sentinel Chicken   Dec-12-05 12:33 PM   #21 
  - Well, in '92, they used the 40th ID National Guard troops for a good  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 12:35 PM   #24 
  - except for the fact that the police state may make a show of it in  flordehinojos   Dec-12-05 12:33 PM   #22 
  - Wouldn't that be ironic.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-12-05 12:35 PM   #25 
  - This is what happens sometimes  CornField   Dec-12-05 12:43 PM   #31 
  - Or they could choose to do what  hiaasenrocks   Dec-12-05 12:49 PM   #34 
     - Isn't a system which resorts to violence also criminal?  CornField   Dec-12-05 12:58 PM   #42 
        - No.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-12-05 06:56 PM   #90 
  - "Just increase law enforcement presence and hopefully that will  High Plains   Dec-12-05 01:03 PM   #45 
     - Just look how well increased police presence at the intersection of  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:05 PM   #46 
     - I'm sure that's what would be said  hiaasenrocks   Dec-12-05 06:50 PM   #89 
  - Rioting is a form of revolution.  jobycom   Dec-12-05 12:46 PM   #32 
  - whatever, fine..... Geez.  okieinpain   Dec-12-05 12:48 PM   #33 
  - LA - especially Compton/southside-has been a tinderbox for a few years now  Shakespeare   Dec-12-05 12:54 PM   #37 
  - All the more reason to execute Williams  Walt Starr   Dec-12-05 12:54 PM   #39 
  - Dude, that's a non sequitur  High Plains   Dec-12-05 01:05 PM   #47 
  - It'll mean we caved into threats of violence  Walt Starr   Dec-12-05 01:07 PM   #49 
     - "we"...who in the hell is "we?"  noiretblu   Dec-12-05 01:22 PM   #58 
        - The collective "We"  Walt Starr   Dec-12-05 01:24 PM   #59 
  - that makes zero sense  noiretblu   Dec-12-05 01:19 PM   #56 
     - You've got it backwards  Walt Starr   Dec-12-05 01:42 PM   #66 
  - There won't be any riot  Terran   Dec-12-05 01:14 PM   #54 
  - How many people are in his gang?  incapsulated   Dec-12-05 01:18 PM   #55 
  - First, it's not "his" gang, if it ever really was, it ceased to be in the  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:26 PM   #60 
     - If it isn't his gang  incapsulated   Dec-12-05 01:35 PM   #63 
     - They DON'T give a shit. That's what I'm trying to get across.  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:41 PM   #65 
        - I don't disagree with you  incapsulated   Dec-12-05 01:43 PM   #68 
     - Exactly  Terran   Dec-12-05 03:06 PM   #81 
  - Probably right ...  the_real_38   Dec-12-05 02:51 PM   #78 
  - I'll probably get flamed for this, but...  distantearlywarning   Dec-12-05 01:28 PM   #61 
  - I've seen more outrage about Katrina than I have about Williams.  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:31 PM   #62 
     - Media Attention vs. Black Outrage  distantearlywarning   Dec-12-05 01:49 PM   #69 
        - So tell me, have there been riots regarding EITHER at this point?  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 01:56 PM   #70 
           - That's a nice argument, but...  distantearlywarning   Dec-12-05 02:43 PM   #75 
              - Actually, nothing I said implied the media was hiding anything.  ET Awful   Dec-12-05 02:55 PM   #79 
              - I feel sorry for you, because you actually make sense  Enraged_Ape   Dec-12-05 06:27 PM   #85 
  - I guess that Raymond "The Hatchet Man" Locket never read  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-12-05 01:36 PM   #64 
  - integration  enid602   Dec-12-05 02:24 PM   #72 
  - Agreed--LA is a better place now  Jed Dilligan   Dec-12-05 07:52 PM   #92 
     - whites  enid602   Dec-13-05 12:14 PM   #94 
        - It's not whites that are the problem, it's white Republicans  Jed Dilligan   Dec-13-05 01:30 PM   #95 
  - Also, back in those days, the rioters were controlled and  Cleita   Dec-12-05 02:29 PM   #73 
  - Wrong  Jed Dilligan   Dec-12-05 07:50 PM   #91 
  - I wouldn't be surprised  FreedomAngel82   Dec-12-05 02:59 PM   #80 
  - Big deal  quinnox   Dec-12-05 03:08 PM   #82 
  - Well, guess what will happen to the rioters then...  Endangered Specie   Dec-12-05 03:11 PM   #83 
     - Why don't we think about ways we can produce fewer Crips?  High Plains   Dec-13-05 01:41 PM   #96 

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