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Sat Oct-18-03 08:38 PM
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This is one of the most important issues today!!!
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| -Why Is Everyone Here Against Free Trade? |
Composed Thinker |
Oct-18-03 08:18 PM |
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You take a shot at identifying the "great things" and I'll be happy to |
burythehatchet |
Oct-18-03 08:20 PM |
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Tell the people of Ambridge and Aliquippa PA how great Free Trade is |
The Zanti Regent |
Oct-19-03 12:38 AM |
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Because they believe in |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:21 PM |
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Are you talking about the pharmacutical industry or Microsoft? |
Classical_Liberal |
Oct-19-03 01:26 PM |
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yup - I'd like to hear what those "great things" are... |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 08:23 PM |
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Your job for starters |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:25 PM |
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my job? please explain - not sure what you're saying...n/t |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 08:27 PM |
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Yeah you are |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:30 PM |
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no - please explain how corporations reaping... |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 08:36 PM |
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Forget the ideology |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:40 PM |
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The computer progammers were doing what they couldn't |
Classical_Liberal |
Oct-19-03 01:28 PM |
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The Issue Is Job Creation At Home-NOT OUTSOURCING!!! |
cryingshame |
Oct-18-03 08:45 PM |
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The issue here is actually free trade |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:51 PM |
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Do tell Maple.... |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 09:03 PM |
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You see yourself as that dumb?? |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:13 PM |
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You didn't answer the question hotshot..... |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 09:30 PM |
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I said it was up to you |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:31 PM |
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Ah so you make much noise |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 10:00 PM |
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That's fine - but what is the rate of creation of new technologies... |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 08:52 PM |
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Kind of up to you isn't it? |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:55 PM |
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that's the key |
Vikingking66 |
Oct-18-03 08:56 PM |
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Exactly |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:57 PM |
#49 |
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yeah, but they're not doing enough |
Vikingking66 |
Oct-18-03 09:47 PM |
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no - what about the low-wage workers who have been displaced? |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 09:03 PM |
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What about em? |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:07 PM |
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Blacksmiths went to work at the car factories... |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 09:18 PM |
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No...many of them started garages |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:23 PM |
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Gosh thanks for clearing that up for me! |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 10:05 PM |
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They became auto mechanics, of course |
jmowreader |
Oct-18-03 10:09 PM |
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How often do things like the internet revolution come along |
Classical_Liberal |
Oct-19-03 01:32 PM |
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So that's why we have full employment |
kayell |
Oct-18-03 08:42 PM |
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Your unemployment problem |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:43 PM |
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We 'NEED' trade ...... |
Trajan |
Oct-19-03 01:12 AM |
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Take a look at the labels on your clothes, or the label |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 08:57 PM |
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Baloney |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 10:10 PM |
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Your post is utterly nonsensical. |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 10:22 PM |
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Let me clarify |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 11:00 PM |
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But they didn't. |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 11:05 PM |
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Sure, just look at all the Japanese car companies :-) |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 11:12 PM |
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You're back to making no sense. |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 11:22 PM |
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I never said we needed more protectionism |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 11:55 PM |
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Then you aren't saying anything at all. |
BillyBunter |
Oct-19-03 12:20 AM |
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Yeah, funny thing |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 10:23 PM |
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Sorry, you're wrong. |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 10:44 PM |
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Will you "free" trade types |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 10:56 PM |
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The other person claimed free trade was |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 11:15 PM |
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It gives trade priority to their economic neighbors |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 11:38 PM |
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All Central American countries have free trade agreements with Mexico... |
arcos |
Oct-19-03 08:23 AM |
#186 |
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That's a lie the East Asian economies ARE protectionist |
Classical_Liberal |
Oct-19-03 01:37 PM |
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Too bad my husband, a skilled tradesman, will be unemployed |
MrsGrumpy |
Oct-18-03 10:30 PM |
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I'm a trained economist. |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 11:02 PM |
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I'm a trained mother, I know what I live day to day. |
MrsGrumpy |
Oct-18-03 11:05 PM |
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So am I. |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 11:23 PM |
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I am glad you are sorry that free trade in the way our |
MrsGrumpy |
Oct-18-03 11:28 PM |
#158 |
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You are assuming protectionism would improve your life, |
BillyBunter |
Oct-19-03 12:39 AM |
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Korea, Japan and China |
Classical_Liberal |
Oct-19-03 01:40 PM |
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Call it a 'tendency' |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 11:09 PM |
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When you have no arguments, just accuse the other person of being |
BillyBunter |
Oct-18-03 11:17 PM |
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More constructive than labeling us conspiracy theorists |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 11:26 PM |
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Because Free Trade as Practiced Today |
mhr |
Oct-18-03 08:23 PM |
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Depends on what you mean by it. |
quaker bill |
Oct-18-03 08:24 PM |
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ethics |
amlouden |
Oct-18-03 08:26 PM |
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interestingly, |
Vikingking66 |
Oct-18-03 09:00 PM |
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Right |
quaker bill |
Oct-18-03 09:54 PM |
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OMG, composed thinker is back. Composed, what 'great things'???? |
sgr2 |
Oct-18-03 08:24 PM |
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Apparently none of you are aware |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:28 PM |
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"Everyone in the world has lost jobs to the southern US?" |
alcuno |
Oct-18-03 08:57 PM |
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yup, and that's in the areas that are doing ok |
kayell |
Oct-18-03 09:19 PM |
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The southern US is only |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:25 PM |
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Louisiana - 7.2%, Mississippi - 6.3%, Texas - 6.6%, North |
alcuno |
Oct-18-03 09:45 PM |
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Again you make allot of noise |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 10:19 PM |
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Cos it ain't "free"? |
tinnypriv |
Oct-18-03 08:32 PM |
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It 's free in what it covers |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:34 PM |
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LOL |
tinnypriv |
Oct-18-03 09:01 PM |
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Oh! You don't get to rant |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:05 PM |
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Thus far you have supplied no facts |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 10:33 PM |
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Maple... |
coralrf |
Oct-18-03 09:24 PM |
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Pay attention please |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:28 PM |
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"borders don't matter anymore" |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 10:27 PM |
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absolutely! |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 10:33 PM |
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"I work in finance and trade" |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 10:41 PM |
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Maple or sour grapes? |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 10:48 PM |
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I would agree with you... |
arcos |
Oct-19-03 08:29 AM |
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Do you support FAIR trade? |
Abe Linkman |
Oct-18-03 08:33 PM |
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Clinton thot it was fair trade |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:35 PM |
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Because "Free Trade" is only free... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 08:36 PM |
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Forget the ideology |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:42 PM |
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When did I mention NAFTA? |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 09:18 PM |
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You lump all trade |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:30 PM |
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Very little environmental regulation or labor regulation... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 09:42 PM |
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Chapter 11, what the hell was that? |
Classical_Liberal |
Oct-19-03 01:48 PM |
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Free trade means no Stumpage subsidies |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 10:55 PM |
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So far, have not seen any good things; however |
juajen |
Oct-18-03 08:37 PM |
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Amen! Go Dennis! |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 08:38 PM |
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NAFTA and the WTO |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:44 PM |
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so what does the USA make then? |
Vikingking66 |
Oct-18-03 09:04 PM |
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Up to you |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:09 PM |
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but that's the problem |
Vikingking66 |
Oct-18-03 09:49 PM |
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Use those fancy new technologies to make |
InkAddict |
Oct-19-03 12:23 AM |
#168 |
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dude, tone it down |
Vikingking66 |
Oct-19-03 01:11 PM |
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Actually, there are things Made in the USA |
juajen |
Oct-19-03 01:54 AM |
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One of the many reasons I support Kucinich |
kayell |
Oct-18-03 08:52 PM |
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Kucinich is clueless |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:56 PM |
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Im for free trade |
Bertrand |
Oct-18-03 08:38 PM |
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That's why 146 countries |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:45 PM |
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Free trade ain't free... |
DoNotRefill |
Oct-18-03 08:38 PM |
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Free trade means no tariffs |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:46 PM |
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Want to see foreign countrys bellow like branded calfs? |
DoNotRefill |
Oct-18-03 10:10 PM |
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Because of things like this |
Tinoire |
Oct-18-03 08:41 PM |
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Sorry...wrong topic |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:47 PM |
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Change that to corporate imperialism |
kayell |
Oct-18-03 08:54 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-03 09:15 PM |
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"Globalization is just another name for submission and domination" |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 09:18 PM |
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The UN is globalization |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:34 PM |
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Maple- that explains why you're missing the whole point |
Tinoire |
Oct-18-03 09:25 PM |
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Agreed! |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 09:29 PM |
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You are more than a little Americacentric! |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:36 PM |
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She's blaming the US... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 09:46 PM |
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And it is precisely for those other 6 billion humans out there |
Tinoire |
Oct-18-03 10:21 PM |
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THANK YOU! |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 10:27 PM |
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Yah know Tinoire...I don't agree with you |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 11:41 PM |
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Shucks- Thanks |
Tinoire |
Oct-19-03 10:41 AM |
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Well, not everyone |
cally |
Oct-18-03 08:42 PM |
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Because "free trade" |
indypaul |
Oct-18-03 08:44 PM |
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Who signed the deals?? |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:49 PM |
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We are all brothers and sisters |
pinkpops |
Oct-18-03 08:50 PM |
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Well the brothers and sisters |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:53 PM |
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True BUT...... |
tkmorris |
Oct-18-03 09:16 PM |
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Oh cut it out |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:21 PM |
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My, aren't we offensive? |
tkmorris |
Oct-19-03 02:30 PM |
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Purchased, just like our politicians here in the US |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 09:48 PM |
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yeah. what you said |
pinkpops |
Oct-18-03 10:05 PM |
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What are those great things? Have you noticed that small businesses |
leesa |
Oct-18-03 08:51 PM |
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Small businesses are the backbone |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 08:58 PM |
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the problem is this |
Vikingking66 |
Oct-18-03 08:52 PM |
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NAFTA, FTAAA are NOT about free trade |
Gringo |
Oct-18-03 08:57 PM |
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Focus here Gringo |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:00 PM |
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Try reading the "NAFTA at Seven" paper |
tinnypriv |
Oct-18-03 09:12 PM |
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Don't bother |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:17 PM |
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The EPI is propaganda? |
tinnypriv |
Oct-18-03 09:25 PM |
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I AM an economist |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:38 PM |
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It was written in 2001... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 09:44 PM |
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Actually.... |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 11:44 PM |
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So in 2001 it was seven! |
Darranar |
Oct-19-03 12:41 AM |
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Indeed |
RapidCreek |
Oct-19-03 01:25 AM |
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I totally agree |
juajen |
Oct-19-03 02:19 AM |
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In case anyone's interested... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 09:43 PM |
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Excellent Article and links! Thanks for posting this |
Tinoire |
Oct-18-03 10:39 PM |
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Free trade means free of subsidies |
RapidCreek |
Oct-18-03 11:45 PM |
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What Gringo said. |
LWolf |
Oct-18-03 09:01 PM |
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Free trade coffee is OK.... |
Superfly |
Oct-18-03 09:04 PM |
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The coffee shops advertise FAIR trade coffee |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 09:50 PM |
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I'm not against free trade. |
ezmojason |
Oct-18-03 09:06 PM |
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please explain how the U.S. is going to regulate... |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 09:12 PM |
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Put in the treaties... |
ezmojason |
Oct-18-03 09:26 PM |
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yes- this is a good idea |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 09:33 PM |
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on edit, I mean "U.N" not "U.S." n/t |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 09:34 PM |
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Actually, their competition would be the one to keep up with them |
juajen |
Oct-19-03 02:28 AM |
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Would everyone buy |
Booger |
Oct-18-03 09:25 PM |
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Because the free trade agreements |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 09:35 PM |
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well put, Lydia! |
laura888 |
Oct-18-03 09:39 PM |
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It is Not Unheard-of for a CEO to Dock His Own Pay |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-18-03 10:58 PM |
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Well he's the exception |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 11:02 PM |
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His Salary May Be a Dollar |
Paulie |
Oct-18-03 11:42 PM |
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Sorry guys...but none of the immediate preceeding posts to me are true |
Maple |
Oct-18-03 09:46 PM |
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Wow- I see your background in economics also makes you |
Cat Atomic |
Oct-18-03 09:48 PM |
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Well, I knew a lot of economists in graduate school |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 09:55 PM |
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LOL! And I'm impressed by the fact that |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 09:55 PM |
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Thanks for yet another strawman... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 09:53 PM |
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I support it |
sujan |
Oct-18-03 09:53 PM |
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"Free Trade" is a Misnomer |
durutti |
Oct-18-03 09:56 PM |
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I also support globalization...... |
DemEx_pat |
Oct-19-03 02:38 AM |
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I am not so much against free trade, any other way than how |
MrsGrumpy |
Oct-18-03 09:58 PM |
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And Your Story is The Reason I'm Against Free Trade |
mhr |
Oct-18-03 10:16 PM |
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Oct-18-03 10:40 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-03 10:44 PM |
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The world market and free trade does not work |
FDRrocks |
Oct-18-03 10:50 PM |
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People are against free trade because... |
Chants |
Oct-18-03 10:56 PM |
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I think it might work... |
FDRrocks |
Oct-18-03 11:02 PM |
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I disagree... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 11:09 PM |
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For all those interested: My opinions on this issue in full |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 10:59 PM |
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There is a Bigger Risk to Our Ability to Compete Globally |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-18-03 11:13 PM |
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That's a good point... |
Darranar |
Oct-18-03 11:14 PM |
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We like American jobs going to Americans rather than to foreign |
genius |
Oct-18-03 11:04 PM |
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Of course, if the corporations really wanted to economize |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-18-03 11:09 PM |
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CEO's are part of the investor class |
cprise |
Oct-18-03 11:19 PM |
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too many Gephardt supporters??? |
burr |
Oct-18-03 11:12 PM |
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Umm I frankly don't understand what it is... |
Hippo_Tron |
Oct-18-03 11:31 PM |
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The first thing to remember is it's almost entirely unlike the EC |
cprise |
Oct-19-03 12:17 AM |
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not against "free trade" i just want FAIR TRADE!!! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Oct-19-03 12:30 AM |
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Against Free trade, but not against FAIR TRADE. |
Virginian |
Oct-19-03 12:42 AM |
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Most are for 'FAIR TRADE' |
JCMach1 |
Oct-19-03 01:15 AM |
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the answer is obvious |
liberalcapitalist |
Oct-19-03 01:21 AM |
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because 'FREE Trade' = Corporate CONTROLLED Trade |
rman |
Oct-19-03 02:00 AM |
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Why do you always start threads and then never come back? |
Booberdawg |
Oct-19-03 02:18 AM |
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punch and run baby...punch and run |
RapidCreek |
Oct-19-03 02:23 AM |
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Not at all against free trade |
Gore1FL |
Oct-19-03 03:06 AM |
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because it ain't free and it's a bad trade. |
leftofthedial |
Oct-19-03 01:13 PM |
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I'm in favor of free trade |
WillyBrandt |
Oct-19-03 01:17 PM |
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I don't see where it has given us any great things |
Classical_Liberal |
Oct-19-03 01:23 PM |
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Because with free trade we will lose jobs |
Kamika |
Oct-19-03 01:38 PM |
#197 |