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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:31 PM
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55. Burning the Constitution bothers me.
The flag is a piece of cloth. The sole reason we hold the flag dear is that it is a surrogate for the Constitution. What people need to understand is that it is utterly meaningless to protect a piece of cloth if one undermines that for which the piece of cloth stands.

I support the Constitution. If somebody burns a flag as a statement of displeasure for the USA, that's political speech. No damage has been done to anybody or anything other than cloth. But if one waters down the principles for which people have fought and died for to save a piece of cloth that is utterly repugnant to me.
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  -Burning the flag bothers me Blue_Roses  Dec-06-05 12:53 PM   #0 
  - so don't burn one....  mike_c   Dec-06-05 12:56 PM   #1 
  - I would not be for any laws against flag burning, but  FlaGranny   Dec-06-05 01:07 PM   #18 
  - I have never actually seen a flag burned in real life.  tanyev   Dec-06-05 12:56 PM   #2 
  - Only at the American Legion  ohio_liberal   Dec-06-05 12:58 PM   #3 
  - I've never even seen that, but I really meant in the context of a protest.  tanyev   Dec-06-05 01:00 PM   #9 
     - Yeah, I know  ohio_liberal   Dec-06-05 01:06 PM   #14 
  - Exactly... I suspect I've been to more protests than most...  SteppingRazor   Dec-06-05 01:09 PM   #24 
  - Exactly  ohio_liberal   Dec-06-05 01:15 PM   #32 
  - Me neither. But they have now proven that Texas executed an innocent man  Mr_Spock   Dec-06-05 01:29 PM   #54 
     - there's alot of things about Texas  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:38 PM   #65 
  - how do you feel when people make bikinis out of them?  bettyellen   Dec-06-05 12:58 PM   #4 
  - rwing double standard  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:00 PM   #8 
     - because that would be every bit as illegal.  bettyellen   Dec-06-05 01:13 PM   #27 
        - I'm in agreement  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:20 PM   #39 
           - totally agree with you there.  bettyellen   Dec-06-05 01:26 PM   #48 
  - During one of the Gay Marriage debates  pbca   Dec-06-05 12:58 PM   #5 
  - So are you willing to tear the guts out of what makes this country great  MadHound   Dec-06-05 12:59 PM   #6 
  - First of all  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:03 PM   #13 
  - Yes, what the flag represents is our freedoms, especially those  MadHound   Dec-06-05 01:07 PM   #17 
  - There are two questions here  bryant69   Dec-06-05 01:09 PM   #23 
  - I wholeheartedly agree with you  MadHound   Dec-06-05 01:14 PM   #31 
  - I see your point  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:27 PM   #50 
  - Flying it upside down would get more attention at this point  leftstreet   Dec-06-05 01:23 PM   #45 
     - point exactly  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:28 PM   #53 
  - I feel the same way too.  Err   Dec-06-05 01:32 PM   #58 
  - Abortions bother me..  tridim   Dec-06-05 01:00 PM   #7 
  - The sweet irony is  Ron_Green   Dec-06-05 01:00 PM   #10 
  - I agree  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:06 PM   #15 
     - All flags are eventually burned as that is the official protocal for  John Q. Citizen   Dec-06-05 01:13 PM   #28 
  - the problem is using an issue  G_j   Dec-06-05 01:01 PM   #11 
  - I agree and that's  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:08 PM   #19 
  - True that. This is a wedge issue designed to make emotions run high.  Ladyhawk   Dec-06-05 01:09 PM   #22 
  - I have often thought about this:  Jara sang   Dec-06-05 01:01 PM   #12 
  - I wrote to Blanche Lincoln about that. Didn't get a direct answer, of  sinkingfeeling   Dec-06-05 01:28 PM   #51 
     - I have a flag that flew over the U.S. Capitol.  Jara sang   Dec-06-05 01:53 PM   #69 
  - The flag doesn't represent a particular administration, person or policy.  AZBlue   Dec-06-05 01:06 PM   #16 
  - Well said!  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:10 PM   #25 
  - Cloth. Symbol. Soul.  Ready4Change   Dec-06-05 01:32 PM   #59 
  - very well put....  Tarheel_Dem   Dec-06-05 01:38 PM   #64 
  - Yeah, and defacing the flag bothers me!  Walt Starr   Dec-06-05 01:08 PM   #20 
  - How many times have you seen a flag being burned...  Yollam   Dec-06-05 01:08 PM   #21 
  - Flag burning is about as rampant as gay republicanism  400Years   Dec-06-05 01:11 PM   #26 
  - YOU ARE WRONG!  Walt Starr   Dec-06-05 01:13 PM   #29 
     - Lol so true, one must be a bit more careful with the facts being  AuntPatsy   Dec-06-05 01:16 PM   #35 
     - Seriously, just putting together James Guckert and Andrew Sullivan  Walt Starr   Dec-06-05 01:20 PM   #37 
        - Since I cannot at the moment visual the umm faces of the two  AuntPatsy   Dec-06-05 01:22 PM   #42 
     - I guess so after all they at least have a log cabin to meet in  400Years   Dec-06-05 01:20 PM   #40 
  - It's supposed to. To me that's the point.  alphafemale   Dec-06-05 01:14 PM   #30 
  - Consider it a warning signal, a bell weather, a data point.  Ready4Change   Dec-06-05 01:15 PM   #33 
  - Not ONE of the things that make us great is a physical symbol.  Justitia   Dec-06-05 01:16 PM   #34 
  - I'm just sentimental like that  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:18 PM   #36 
     - I understand. Think of our Founding Fathers like this.....  Justitia   Dec-06-05 01:32 PM   #57 
  - Does it really happen?  Marie26   Dec-06-05 01:20 PM   #38 
  - I'm all for  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:23 PM   #46 
  - One documented flag burning in entire US last year.  ieoeja   Dec-06-05 01:28 PM   #52 
  - Feel free not to burn them and feel free to complain  bowens43   Dec-06-05 01:20 PM   #41 
  - you know  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:22 PM   #43 
  - "it's piece of cloth " - you forgot Made in China  Mr_Spock   Dec-06-05 01:27 PM   #49 
  - Burning the flag bothers most people.  tasteblind   Dec-06-05 01:22 PM   #44 
  - I've never witnessed a flag burning im my life!  Mr_Spock   Dec-06-05 01:24 PM   #47 
  - Burning the Constitution bothers me.  longship   Dec-06-05 01:31 PM   #55 
  - It bothers me far more to see 'flag' shirts, hats, linings in jean jackets  Debi   Dec-06-05 01:31 PM   #56 
  - Well  dutchdemocrat   Dec-06-05 01:33 PM   #60 
  - How do you feel about effigies of political figures  Jed Dilligan   Dec-06-05 01:35 PM   #61 
  - When was the last time you saw a flag burning?  ComerPerro   Dec-06-05 01:36 PM   #62 
  - other than the re-runs on CNN  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 01:51 PM   #67 
     - Yeah, I know. I think a lot of the reason this is even being discussed  ComerPerro   Dec-06-05 02:03 PM   #72 
        - exactly  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 06:00 PM   #82 
  - Well, nothing is sacred as far as I'm concerned.  Flubadubya   Dec-06-05 01:36 PM   #63 
  - Isn't that the point of burning one? To bother people?  jane_pippin   Dec-06-05 01:44 PM   #66 
  - It sure would be if they ban it!  Marie26   Dec-06-05 01:58 PM   #70 
  - Country or government, is there really that much difference?  Spider Jerusalem   Dec-06-05 01:52 PM   #68 
  - it shouldn't matter to those who live outside the  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 02:00 PM   #71 
     - Unfortunately...  Spider Jerusalem   Dec-06-05 02:06 PM   #73 
        - your talking about something  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 02:11 PM   #76 
  - it doesn't matter if it bothers you or not  DrunkenMaster   Dec-06-05 02:10 PM   #74 
  - but the fact that I CAN say  Blue_Roses   Dec-06-05 02:14 PM   #79 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-05 02:11 PM   #75 
  - well, if you ever see one burned  BareNakedLiberal   Dec-06-05 02:12 PM   #77 
  - I regard flag-burning as tasteless.  Bridget Burke   Dec-06-05 02:14 PM   #78 
  - not me, not one bit, i'm an american  mopaul   Dec-06-05 02:15 PM   #80 
  - Me too. Burning the Constitution bothers me a great deal more.  freestyle   Dec-06-05 02:23 PM   #81 
 

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