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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 06:09 PM
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58. That would be cool
Just what we need.

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  -Debate: Stan Tookie Williams' Clemency (Life w/o Parole) v Execution nofurylike  Dec-02-05 08:45 AM   #0 
  - Execute him  Walt Starr   Dec-02-05 08:47 AM   #1 
  - Very well said. n/t  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 11:39 AM   #28 
  - Capital Punishment is murder...  SaveElmer   Dec-02-05 08:51 AM   #2 
  - It may be murder, but it certainly cuts down recidivism severely!!!  Village Idiot   Dec-02-05 09:33 AM   #5 
  - Not any more than life without parole...  SaveElmer   Dec-02-05 09:36 AM   #8 
  - Actually, you're mistaken. Prisoners on death row are 250% more likely to  Czolgosz   Dec-02-05 09:58 PM   #69 
     - That number would drop if  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 10:19 PM   #74 
     - Of course, an expedited process would kill more of the wrongfully accused.  Czolgosz   Dec-02-05 10:34 PM   #84 
        - Wow.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 11:12 PM   #96 
           - What other justification for the death penalty but eye-for-an-eye?  Czolgosz   Dec-02-05 11:25 PM   #101 
           - Where's the strawman?  AngryOldDem   Dec-03-05 11:50 AM   #111 
     - crucially important information, thank you, Czolgosz. eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 11:11 PM   #95 
  - thank you, SaveElmer. please email, fax and call the governor  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:45 AM   #19 
  - Again, more untruths.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 11:45 AM   #31 
  - I don't like CP,  Dorian Gray   Dec-02-05 02:58 PM   #41 
  - Why?  SaveElmer   Dec-02-05 03:04 PM   #44 
  - yes, actually, a prosecutor knowingly, premeditatedly railroading  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 03:43 PM   #48 
  - I'd argue that there is a substantial moral difference  wixomblues   Dec-03-05 11:54 AM   #113 
  - can we get the 4 corpses to testify at the clemency hearing?  msongs   Dec-02-05 08:53 AM   #3 
  - Yes, he is an expert at living a horrible life... and also an expert...  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 10:12 AM   #14 
  - Sapphire Blue...  Dorian Gray   Dec-02-05 03:03 PM   #42 
     - Thank you so much for that!  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 03:08 PM   #45 
  - hey, leave hip hop out of it. next thing you will be saying 9/11 and  okieinpain   Dec-02-05 11:37 AM   #26 
     - But Hip-Hop makes children shoot people!  ContraBass Black   Dec-02-05 11:41 AM   #29 
     - yes, yes it does. i heard it on faux news... thank you ContraBass Black!  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 04:35 PM   #52 
     - WELL said, okieinpain! thank you! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 04:23 PM   #51 
  - Murdering buggers like this is why Capital Punishment was invented.  Village Idiot   Dec-02-05 09:32 AM   #4 
  - aha! I always wondered why you chose that for your DU name!  Thtwudbeme   Dec-02-05 10:06 AM   #13 
  - We need all the information.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 09:35 AM   #6 
  - my work is to offset the bloated credence handed a prosecutor who  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 09:59 AM   #10 
     - The link I provided....  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 10:01 AM   #11 
        - do not again imply that i do not remember the victims. the struggle for  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:36 AM   #16 
           - What does this mean?  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 10:40 AM   #18 
              - you know nothing of me. n/t  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 05:37 PM   #56 
                 - I know that you have repeatedly  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 09:24 PM   #61 
                    - the frickin prosecutor called him and his community what - exhausted...  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 09:42 PM   #64 
                       - I have no problem with LWOP  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 10:03 PM   #72 
                          - "last resort." i am a fool. will not try again. goodbye. i wish you mercy.  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:20 PM   #75 
                             - As expected.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 10:21 PM   #76 
                                - of course you expect it.. that's your WHOLE *game*.  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:34 PM   #85 
                                   - No game here.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 11:03 PM   #94 
  - I am against the death penalty.  yibbehobba   Dec-02-05 09:35 AM   #7 
  - we work day in and day out trying to stop executions. no one is "the  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 11:03 AM   #21 
     - You make a few important points I'd like to address.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 11:37 AM   #25 
     - Yes, I have seen those many posts. It is also strange that...  Silverhair   Dec-02-05 10:30 PM   #82 
  - No doubts here about his guilt ...  jarab   Dec-02-05 09:47 AM   #9 
  - "I would rather that ten guilty go free than one innocent executed." yes!  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 03:56 PM   #49 
  - Amen  sproutster   Dec-02-05 09:46 PM   #66 
  - And how many new innocents will die from your release of ten...  Silverhair   Dec-02-05 10:36 PM   #86 
  - I'm anti-death penalty.  dogfacedboy   Dec-02-05 10:04 AM   #12 
  - Thank you for your strong stand against the DP.  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 01:07 PM   #34 
  - I will. Thank you for the info. n/t  dogfacedboy   Dec-02-05 03:03 PM   #43 
  - very well said, dogfacedboy! thank you! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 09:54 PM   #68 
  - Life, death and Stanley Tookie Williams  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 10:22 AM   #15 
  - kick  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 02:04 PM   #39 
  - that is excellent, Sapphire Blue!! thank you for posting that! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 04:19 PM   #50 
  - His message didn't get across to his own son who murdered a young  othermeans   Dec-02-05 10:27 PM   #79 
  - Against Death Penalty  Leeny   Dec-02-05 10:37 AM   #17 
  - Poll question: Poll: I Think Tookie Deserves Clemency Because/Doesn't ....  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 01:09 PM   #35 
  - thank you for that link, SB! will do! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 05:42 PM   #57 
  - Thanks !  Leeny   Dec-02-05 11:12 PM   #97 
  - excellent post and crucially important point, Leeny!! thank you! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 04:54 PM   #54 
  - The government should be allowed to kill NO ONE. Once you  Dhalgren   Dec-02-05 10:46 AM   #20 
  - agree, absolutely. thank you for that post, Dhalgren! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 09:19 PM   #60 
  - Life Imprisonment  MamaBear   Dec-02-05 11:28 AM   #22 
  - Thank you so much for your strong & insightful statement.  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 11:33 AM   #23 
  - very well said, MamaBear! thank you! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 09:36 PM   #62 
  - from what I've seen, I say he should be put to sleep..  okieinpain   Dec-02-05 11:36 AM   #24 
  - Let him live, but force him to spend the rest of his life  tgnyc   Dec-02-05 11:37 AM   #27 
  - He has willingly been doing that work for more than a decade.  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 11:42 AM   #30 
  - thank you for the great link. please consider writing, calling the  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:00 PM   #70 
  - 12/2 ** URGENT**11 Days to STOP the EXECUTION! Clemency=Life w/out Parole  FrustratedDemInNC   Dec-02-05 12:00 PM   #32 
  - kick... for this post!!  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 02:02 PM   #38 
  - excellent post, FrustratedDemInNC! thank you! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:14 PM   #73 
  - K & R... n/t  Peter Frank   Dec-02-05 12:10 PM   #33 
  - I'm against the death penalty, but if anybody deserved it, this guy does.  RandomKoolzip   Dec-02-05 01:17 PM   #36 
  - K... n/t  Peter Frank   Dec-02-05 01:35 PM   #37 
  - Stanley "Tookie" Williams: Redemption or Revenge?  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 02:49 PM   #40 
  - kick  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 03:39 PM   #46 
  - excellent! thank you, Sapphire Blue! what a great teacher you are!! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:28 PM   #80 
  - How CAN he turn his life around, IF HE DIDNT DO THE CRIME?  Fescue4u   Dec-02-05 03:41 PM   #47 
  - He isn't innocent and I don't believe his redemption story  slackmaster   Dec-02-05 06:10 PM   #59 
  - Are the gang-bangers going to riot and burn LA if he is executed?  Freedomfried   Dec-02-05 04:36 PM   #53 
  - That would be cool  slackmaster   Dec-02-05 06:09 PM   #58 
  - I heard that too actually  sproutster   Dec-02-05 09:37 PM   #63 
     - I wonder if Arnie will follow Republican marching orders....  Freedomfried   Dec-02-05 09:53 PM   #67 
        - Who knows... I'm sure it's on someones memo  sproutster   Dec-02-05 10:00 PM   #71 
  - please sign the petitions:  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 05:10 PM   #55 
  - "if it was a deterrent"  cherokeeprogressive   Dec-02-05 09:46 PM   #65 
  - So much hatefulnes. Sad. Really sad.  Sapphire Blue   Dec-02-05 10:24 PM   #77 
  - That ignore list is getting pretty big isnt it?  Fescue4u   Dec-02-05 10:41 PM   #88 
  - They never intended to debate in the debate thread.  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 11:15 PM   #98 
  - Do you know, or have you ever heard of Robert Bourne? I watched him die  cherokeeprogressive   Dec-03-05 01:47 AM   #106 
     - So I bet you would really love to see him tortured, huh?  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-03-05 08:31 AM   #108 
  - WARNING!  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 10:27 PM   #78 
  - It's no deterrent. The South accounts for 82% of executions, crime rises;  Czolgosz   Dec-02-05 10:29 PM   #81 
  - "the Northeast accounts for less than 1% of executions, crime falls."  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 10:45 PM   #89 
     - Here's a good graph of murder rates in states w/ and w/o the death penalty  Czolgosz   Dec-02-05 10:50 PM   #90 
        - thank you for these stats, Czolgosz. very important! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 11:22 PM   #100 
  - Life in prison without possibility of parole isn't "getting away with it"  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-02-05 10:32 PM   #83 
     - And when he gets old in prison, some person will beg that he...  Silverhair   Dec-02-05 10:39 PM   #87 
     - You're right...the thought of getting put in jail for 50 years until you  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-02-05 10:52 PM   #91 
        - Compare that "slap on the wrist" to what he gave his victims.  Silverhair   Dec-02-05 10:58 PM   #92 
           - Sorry. The victims don't count!  hiaasenrocks   Dec-02-05 11:16 PM   #99 
           - No, the victims count, but another killing does not bring them back.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-03-05 12:36 AM   #104 
           - Right, and eye for an eye is acceptable.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-03-05 12:35 AM   #103 
     - very well said, SemiCharmedQuark! thank you! eom  nofurylike   Dec-02-05 11:01 PM   #93 
  - Let me Summarize the "Save Tookie Campaign"  Fescue4u   Dec-03-05 12:22 AM   #102 
  - 911 is about Iraq ... Oh wait ... I got my spins mixed up  sproutster   Dec-03-05 12:44 AM   #105 
  - Our Creator Frowns on Killing...  Peter Frank   Dec-03-05 04:21 AM   #107 
  - new debate thread:  nofurylike   Dec-03-05 11:38 AM   #109 
  - 12/3 ** URGENT**10 Days to STOP the EXECUTION! Clemency=Life w/out Parole  nofurylike   Dec-03-05 11:41 AM   #110 
  - Pretrial investigation of a capital case is at least 3 times costlier,  Czolgosz   Dec-03-05 11:53 AM   #112 
  - Locking  LeftCoast   Dec-03-05 11:56 AM   #114 
 

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