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11. Actually, the Brittish never stated that the country in question
was Niger in their dossier. And they're being cagey about their sources -- it seems they got their intelligence from a fellow EU member who didn't want it shared with US. Because UK is primarily loyal to itself and then the EU, the UK isn't betraying the source. Although the UK hasn't discounted Niger as the country in question, they haven't exactly been precise in saying to which country they were referring in the dossier.

Bush decided to say the country was Niger, contrary to intelligence he was given from US sources, and without any confirmation from the (because UK was and is refusing to share its intelligence with US).

Blair is saying overall UK intelligence is still good, and they have sources other than the forged document for Niger (but, again, they haven't said that the alternative sources were in relation to Niger).

I think the least damaging (for Bush) outcome of this is that it turns out that some African nation was approached by Hussien in the 90s, and it may even be Niger, but that Bush jumped the gun on the intelligence in order to insert an alarming statment in the SOTU. My spider sense tells me that this Niger/Africa story isn't total bullshit.
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  -specificly, where is THE lie bearfartinthewoods  Jul-17-03 06:53 AM   #0 
  - that is not what bush said and ...  Pepperbelly   Jul-17-03 06:57 AM   #1 
  - ok..i see the distiction but i'm not sure i can work with that  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-17-03 07:01 AM   #6 
     - There was no embracing of the truthfulness  alcuno   Jul-17-03 08:05 AM   #22 
     - bearfartinthewoods: Use rethug REAGAN's words against them......  LiberalLibra   Jul-17-03 09:00 AM   #28 
     - UPDATE  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-18-03 10:17 AM   #31 
  - First of all, let's define the difference between "forged" and "faked"...  kentuck   Jul-17-03 06:57 AM   #2 
  - that ....n/t  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-17-03 07:03 AM   #9 
  - I know where you're coming from  Friar   Jul-17-03 06:59 AM   #3 
  - no time...if i'm going, i have to leave in about a half hour  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-17-03 07:05 AM   #10 
  - Brit intel  TheBigGuy   Jul-17-03 07:00 AM   #4 
  - I read where the Italian government and intelligence services are denying  kentuck   Jul-17-03 07:02 AM   #7 
  - Is it a good idea to go to war relying on secret intelligence that is  Jacobin   Jul-17-03 07:01 AM   #5 
  - third and fourth hand  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-17-03 07:11 AM   #12 
  - Try this!  Tennessee Gal   Jul-17-03 07:02 AM   #8 
  - Actually, the Brittish never stated that the country in question  AP   Jul-17-03 07:06 AM   #11 
  - As Mike Kinsley said...  trumad   Jul-17-03 07:11 AM   #13 
  - Bush decided to say the country was Niger  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-17-03 07:19 AM   #14 
     - I think it's important to recognize that it may turn out that  AP   Jul-17-03 07:26 AM   #15 
     - he looked into somebody's eyes, or relied on some kind of mojo,  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-17-03 07:34 AM   #17 
     - Try this  justicebuilder   Jul-17-03 07:29 AM   #16 
        - good one...i knew if i waited just another minute or so....  bearfartinthewoods   Jul-17-03 07:38 AM   #18 
  - yellowcake  JetJaguar   Jul-17-03 07:40 AM   #19 
  - I Think We're Going Down The Wrong Path...  MDYinz   Jul-17-03 07:47 AM   #20 
  - I disagree.  bowens43   Jul-17-03 08:09 AM   #23 
  - ...  Terwilliger   Jul-17-03 08:47 AM   #27 
  - Bush knew that the information was false  bowens43   Jul-17-03 08:02 AM   #21 
  - Not the only lie  JNelson6563   Jul-17-03 08:10 AM   #24 
  - Don't you think it might be easier for you to show us the true statements?  NNN0LHI   Jul-17-03 08:19 AM   #25 
  - Hi MDYinz!!  newyawker99   Jul-17-03 08:44 AM   #26 
  - Read this  HFishbine   Jul-17-03 09:10 AM   #29 
  - You're falling into their trap. It's not just about these 16 words  Cronus   Jul-17-03 09:34 AM   #30 

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