| 103. Once again, people have been executed and exonerated after the fact |
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that had just as many appeals. If there is the SLIGHTEST doubt, allowing an execution to take place is an atrocity. If there is proof positive found the day after he's executed that he did not kill those people, are you going to call him up and apologize for sanctioning his murder?
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| -11/28 *** URGENT*** 15 Days to STOP the EXECUTION! |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 07:30 AM |
#0 |
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Let him die, we need more jail space for the bush admin |
meisje |
Nov-28-05 07:34 AM |
#1 |
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again, from OP: |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 07:49 AM |
#4 |
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Please see this thread... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:37 AM |
#18 |
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please note: |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 07:45 AM |
#2 |
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BINGO - Hell, the prosecutor in the case was allowed to dismiss ALL |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:48 AM |
#3 |
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he "saved" kids from a life he created? |
niceypoo |
Nov-28-05 08:00 AM |
#6 |
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Ummm, you might want to educate yourself. |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 08:20 AM |
#10 |
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Yes, it is VERY decent of him. He has become a very decent man. |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 06:35 PM |
#98 |
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thank you for those crucially important facts, ET Awful! |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:01 AM |
#7 |
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You are correct, no black jurors were allowed to serve. |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 09:06 AM |
#28 |
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Woo! I did not know about the kicking off of the AA jurors! |
goclark |
Nov-28-05 09:55 AM |
#44 |
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There is SO much info regarding this case that is not widely known. |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 10:03 AM |
#48 |
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I lived in Los Angeles at the time |
goclark |
Nov-28-05 10:26 AM |
#53 |
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Fortunately, some of the info is coming out now & w/the widespread support |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 11:20 AM |
#54 |
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So much thanks to you Sappire Blue for keeping us |
goclark |
Nov-28-05 12:05 PM |
#57 |
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Unfortunately, the Supreme Court refused to hear the case. |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 03:03 PM |
#84 |
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Unfortunately, there are those who choose to close their eyes to injustice |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 06:09 PM |
#92 |
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Bingo! |
goclark |
Nov-28-05 09:58 AM |
#45 |
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that's so great to hear, goclark! put tears in my eyes! thank you! please |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 01:55 PM |
#67 |
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3 pm, the line is still busy at the groper's office! |
goclark |
Nov-28-05 05:05 PM |
#91 |
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i love that too! thank you for that news! have you gotten through yet? eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:13 PM |
#122 |
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Still no luck and I put it on redial last night 4 times nt |
goclark |
Nov-29-05 10:28 AM |
#180 |
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I support giving him clemency |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-29-05 12:08 PM |
#183 |
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I'm sorry but the evidence about his gang connections was |
HopeLives |
Nov-28-05 02:46 PM |
#75 |
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if you read the threads, you'll understand that i am talking about the |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 07:06 PM |
#99 |
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You know what else wasn't presented at trial? |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:30 PM |
#109 |
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yes! spot on information, ET Awful. painful, but clear. thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:21 PM |
#125 |
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There was a shell that came from his gun at the motel murders. |
HopeLives |
Nov-28-05 10:56 PM |
#151 |
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A gun that he owned 5 years earlier. A gun that was found on someone else. |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 11:04 PM |
#152 |
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Bingo. |
ET Awful |
Nov-29-05 05:10 AM |
#169 |
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A gun that was found at the place where he frequently stayed. |
HopeLives |
Nov-29-05 09:06 AM |
#173 |
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I Know Your Intentions Are Good, But I Think The Request Is Inappropriate |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-28-05 07:34 PM |
#112 |
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no one was asked to agree. they were asked to learn the facts for the |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:16 PM |
#123 |
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Ahem... |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-28-05 08:36 PM |
#130 |
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next line: |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:58 PM |
#134 |
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I wasn't talking about the OP, I was talking about the post I responded to |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-28-05 09:06 PM |
#139 |
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this french class is in french. you'd speak anything but. egomania. bye. |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 11:28 PM |
#153 |
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he murdered 4 people |
niceypoo |
Nov-28-05 07:57 AM |
#5 |
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not me |
blueknight |
Nov-28-05 08:01 AM |
#8 |
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You really don't know anything about the case do you? |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 08:23 AM |
#13 |
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Please see this thread... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:38 AM |
#19 |
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It is a grotesque obscenity that anyone is ever executed... |
Punkingal |
Nov-28-05 09:22 AM |
#35 |
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he also says he did not do it |
BareNakedLiberal |
Nov-28-05 09:33 AM |
#38 |
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evidence shows serious question he did. do you think anyone |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 12:41 PM |
#62 |
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And GWB was responsible for killing 1000's of innocent people |
goclark |
Nov-28-05 04:09 PM |
#90 |
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thanks to Sapphire Blue for much i copy/pasted from those excellent |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:06 AM |
#9 |
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Please call Gov. Schwarzenegger @ 916-445-2841 |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:22 AM |
#11 |
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Please fax Gov. Schwarzenegger @ 916-445-4633 |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:22 AM |
#12 |
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kick |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:48 PM |
#145 |
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Please email Gov Schwarzenegger @ governor@governor.ca.gov |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:23 AM |
#14 |
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Victims’ Families Call for End to Executions |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:29 AM |
#15 |
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Amicus Brief filed by civil rights, social justice & religious orgs. |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:33 AM |
#16 |
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*** FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT STAN 'TOOKIE' WILLIAMS EXECUTED... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:35 AM |
#17 |
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just to let you know it has been locked. some were earnestly |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 01:39 PM |
#65 |
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Thank you so much for posting this... for keeping this effort alive... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:41 AM |
#20 |
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you are welcome, Sapphire Blue! you have done so very much! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:55 AM |
#23 |
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Execution is not the answer. |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 08:48 AM |
#21 |
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very well said, FrustratedDemInNC! thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:03 AM |
#26 |
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I emailed him.... |
Punkingal |
Nov-28-05 08:54 AM |
#22 |
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THANK YOU! Please also consider calling/faxing him if you can. |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:57 AM |
#25 |
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I will call, |
Punkingal |
Nov-28-05 09:05 AM |
#27 |
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The clemency hearing is Dec. 8; PLEASE call before then! Thanks!!! |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:07 AM |
#30 |
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Will do, |
Punkingal |
Nov-28-05 09:09 AM |
#31 |
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Thank you! Thank you!! |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:10 AM |
#32 |
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that's great! thank you, Punkingal! i think there is real hope too. eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:06 AM |
#29 |
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Why a “Tookie” Williams? |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:55 AM |
#24 |
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this is a great! article! thank you SB!! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:06 PM |
#68 |
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What you can do to help save Tookie |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 09:16 AM |
#33 |
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kick! |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:18 AM |
#34 |
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great list! thank you for all that information, FrustratedDemInNC! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:39 AM |
#39 |
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Thank you, nofurylike! |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 09:44 AM |
#41 |
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"Tookie Protocol for Peace" was in that video. brilliant! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:59 AM |
#46 |
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kicking post #33... valuable info there! |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:52 AM |
#43 |
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Please contact the gov: Phone: 916-445-2841; FAX: 916-445-4633 |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:23 AM |
#36 |
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Please contact him before the Dec. 8 clemency hearing! Thanks! |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:27 AM |
#37 |
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Kick! |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 09:40 AM |
#40 |
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thanks for reminding about the december 8th hearing and time |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:49 AM |
#42 |
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kick... please contact him before the Dec. 8 clemency hearing. |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:43 PM |
#144 |
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call! fax! email! fill those email and voicemail and fax boxes, DU!! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 10:02 AM |
#47 |
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kick! |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 10:06 AM |
#49 |
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81,000 DUers MUST be able to reach that governor! this is the time! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 10:07 AM |
#50 |
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Not all DUers oppose carrying out this punishment |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-28-05 12:09 PM |
#59 |
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i am certain that anyone concerned with justice would, upon knowing |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 01:14 PM |
#63 |
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So how do you get from "did not say" to "does not oppose"? |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 01:24 PM |
#64 |
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thank you for that important information, ET Awful! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:37 PM |
#73 |
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With all due respect, not all murder victims' families desire revenge... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 06:21 PM |
#94 |
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The man did the crime |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 10:09 AM |
#51 |
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It never ceases to amaze me how many people that call themselves liberal |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 11:29 AM |
#55 |
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very well said, ET Awful! i am re-energized, thanks! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 11:58 AM |
#56 |
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ET Awful, you nailed it. |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 01:50 PM |
#66 |
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How many appeals have there been |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 07:06 PM |
#100 |
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Guess what, the case in Texas recently where they discovered that a |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:11 PM |
#102 |
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I support the DP |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 07:17 PM |
#104 |
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Apparently you see no reason to educate yourself. |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:22 PM |
#106 |
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Believe whatever you like |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 07:30 PM |
#110 |
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I see no point in visiting web sites biased towards getting a convicted |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 07:37 PM |
#113 |
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Perhaps web sites biased toward executing an innocent man, |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 07:56 PM |
#117 |
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That's what the death penalty is about, JUSTICE |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 08:01 PM |
#118 |
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Bye, Walt. |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:03 PM |
#119 |
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Laters |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 08:05 PM |
#120 |
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all that information, laid out for you by others' labor, and you can't be |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 12:12 PM |
#60 |
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He's not interested in justice. |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:38 PM |
#114 |
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thank you ET Awful. you have helped me keep my cool, again. you're |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 12:00 AM |
#157 |
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I've seen all I need to see |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 08:35 PM |
#127 |
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And you know this how? Were you there? Did you witness the crimes? |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 06:24 PM |
#95 |
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It's gone through the system |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 07:07 PM |
#101 |
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Once again, people have been executed and exonerated after the fact |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:13 PM |
#103 |
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And Tookie will get a needle in his arm |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 07:18 PM |
#105 |
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Bye bye Walt. In my opinion, you are worse than he is. |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:25 PM |
#107 |
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Aaaah, the system... that system has never been wrong, has it? |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 07:43 PM |
#115 |
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kick! back soon to post, kick. thank you all! write call fax please! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 10:12 AM |
#52 |
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Fax line is busy busy busy this morning! keep trying |
goclark |
Nov-28-05 12:08 PM |
#58 |
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thank you for that news, goclark! it IS good news! it's so great you |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:16 PM |
#69 |
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Arnold? |
LiberalPersona |
Nov-28-05 12:15 PM |
#61 |
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his seeing the petition is one reason he even recognized he must hear |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:31 PM |
#71 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:26 PM |
#70 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:32 PM |
#72 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:40 PM |
#74 |
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anyone know how to get a transcript of the Laura Flanders interview? eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:48 PM |
#76 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:51 PM |
#77 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:53 PM |
#78 |
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call, write, fax, sign the petition, please! thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:55 PM |
#79 |
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call, write, fax, sign the petition, please! thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 02:56 PM |
#80 |
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Please call Gov. Schwarzenegger @ 916-445-2841 |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 03:00 PM |
#81 |
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Please fax Gov. Schwarzenegger @ 916-445-4633 |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 03:00 PM |
#82 |
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!!! |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 10:04 PM |
#148 |
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Please email Gov Schwarzenegger @ governor@governor.ca.gov |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 03:02 PM |
#83 |
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please call, email, fax...! thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 03:05 PM |
#85 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 03:09 PM |
#86 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 03:11 PM |
#87 |
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kick. please keep this kicked. thanks! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 03:15 PM |
#88 |
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Kick! |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Nov-28-05 03:37 PM |
#89 |
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screw tookie the gang thug |
meisje |
Nov-28-05 06:11 PM |
#93 |
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Now there's an insightful, well thought out comment from someone who has |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 06:27 PM |
#96 |
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you make excellent points, again and again, ET Awful! thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 07:28 PM |
#108 |
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Well that wasn't a good point really, it was more a rant of exasperation |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 07:32 PM |
#111 |
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yes, but it was a perfectly placed rant, the culmination of a series of |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 07:52 PM |
#116 |
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Screw all the children he is keeping out of gang life today, too? |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 06:29 PM |
#97 |
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it does become exhausting, doesn't it, to care so very much and work |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:10 PM |
#121 |
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When you consider those 150,000 kids, along with the folks that could have |
ET Awful |
Nov-28-05 08:19 PM |
#124 |
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exactly! that is a critical point! thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 08:33 PM |
#126 |
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An article on Tookie, gang life, and the system... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 08:44 PM |
#132 |
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excellent articles, Sapphire Blue! thank you for them! |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 11:52 PM |
#156 |
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Nothing he does after the fact |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 08:36 PM |
#129 |
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2 choices: 'He lives & does what he can' or 'He dies & does nothing' |
IndyOp |
Nov-28-05 09:08 PM |
#141 |
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The only way there will be any justice is if he is put to death |
Walt Starr |
Nov-28-05 09:50 PM |
#146 |
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great! thank you, IndyOp! excellent quotes! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 12:13 AM |
#158 |
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Tookie has enjoyed 20 additional years |
Fescue4u |
Nov-28-05 08:36 PM |
#128 |
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Done. |
SCRUBDASHRUB |
Nov-28-05 08:42 PM |
#131 |
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Yet another person who hasn't researched anything to do with the case |
ET Awful |
Nov-29-05 05:19 AM |
#171 |
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Ah yes. The crips were a Gang of Peace back in 1979 |
Fescue4u |
Nov-29-05 09:58 AM |
#175 |
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You really are ignorant of the facts aren't you? |
ET Awful |
Nov-29-05 10:10 AM |
#177 |
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Im not his judge and jury |
Fescue4u |
Nov-29-05 10:23 AM |
#178 |
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L.A. Officers Urge 'No Mercy' for Tookie Williams |
Fescue4u |
Nov-29-05 09:51 AM |
#174 |
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You mean LA officers like say . . . Mark Fuhrman? |
ET Awful |
Nov-29-05 10:08 AM |
#176 |
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I see. So all Cops are bad. And all gang leaders are good. |
Fescue4u |
Nov-29-05 10:27 AM |
#179 |
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kick |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-28-05 08:45 PM |
#133 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:00 PM |
#135 |
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kick. back to kick more later. thank you A:LL! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:03 PM |
#136 |
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kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:04 PM |
#137 |
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kick. bye for now... |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:05 PM |
#138 |
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eh... eh... one more kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 09:07 PM |
#140 |
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thank you for doing this |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-28-05 09:15 PM |
#142 |
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Those who support the death penalty... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 09:30 PM |
#143 |
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even my Republican grandmother (RIP) was against the death penalty |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-28-05 11:42 PM |
#155 |
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you make very good points, Douglas Carpenter, thank you! i was a bit |
nofurylike |
Nov-28-05 11:41 PM |
#154 |
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yes, thank you |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-29-05 08:42 AM |
#172 |
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2001 Mother Jones interview... |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 10:04 PM |
#147 |
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i had missed this interview. thank you so much! it's great! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 12:59 AM |
#160 |
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kick for the night shift |
fortyfeetunder |
Nov-28-05 10:13 PM |
#149 |
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thank you! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 01:15 AM |
#161 |
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Danny Glover invites you to see Tookie Movie 12/4 in SF |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-28-05 10:19 PM |
#150 |
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great! good for Danny Glover! thank you for this, SB! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 01:27 AM |
#163 |
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Telling His Story to Save His Life |
Sapphire Blue |
Nov-29-05 12:39 AM |
#159 |
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Barbara Becnel is great! i hope everyone has heard that interview! |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 01:47 AM |
#165 |
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and another kick |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 01:50 AM |
#167 |
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Williams is a prime example of how rehabilitation works |
Generic Other |
Nov-29-05 01:16 AM |
#162 |
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excellent! exactly to the point, Generic Other! |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 01:37 AM |
#164 |
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thank you all for posting! kick goodnight eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 01:49 AM |
#166 |
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and another. bye. thank you all! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 01:55 AM |
#168 |
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You know, all the people clamoring for his execution remind me of nothing |
ET Awful |
Nov-29-05 05:14 AM |
#170 |
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I strongly urge DUers to |
H2O Man |
Nov-29-05 10:47 AM |
#181 |
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beautifully said! thank you for that clarity and reason! eom |
nofurylike |
Nov-29-05 09:51 PM |
#184 |
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kick |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-29-05 11:23 AM |
#182 |