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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:55 AM
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58. It keeps repeat psychopaths from raping and killing again.
It's a waste of resources.

Why should good working Americans live in poverty when we've got those vermin get food, housing, work to do, education...

Of course, take away a person's ability to live and some of them go bonkers (the movie "Falling Down" comes to mind...)

And it isn't a deterrent. Some people have a lower threshold for civility. Or think that "freedom" is another word for meaning "having nothing left to lose".

Which brings up a point; how about the corporate criminals like ken lay and his ilk? They've done far worse than kill their ex-employees. They've hurt them. Like a rapist would. But we are by, of, and for the corporation. That much is increasingly obvious. So they can do what they want. For they are above the law$ that 'guide us'.
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  -What good does the death penalty do? ulysses  Nov-26-05 08:53 PM   #0 
  - I'm old and I've only seen ONE real DP case  Warpy   Nov-26-05 08:56 PM   #1 
  - I'm sorry to hear that.  ulysses   Nov-26-05 08:59 PM   #4 
  - Some "people"  hobbit709   Nov-26-05 09:15 PM   #17 
  - "like rabid dogs" is a term of jurisprudence?  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:22 PM   #22 
     - The phrase "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men"  hobbit709   Nov-26-05 09:39 PM   #31 
        - and I won't ask you to go into detail  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:43 PM   #33 
  - Me too, surprisingly enough.  Warpy   Nov-26-05 09:43 PM   #34 
  - That's who I thought of - I'm against the Death Penalty but when  electron_blue   Nov-26-05 09:23 PM   #24 
  - I really need the personal satisfaction.  aquart   Nov-26-05 08:56 PM   #2 
  - so justice is about your personal satisfaction?  ulysses   Nov-26-05 08:59 PM   #7 
  - Satisfaction-NO  hobbit709   Nov-26-05 09:17 PM   #19 
     - Sounds very much like revenge to me.  zanne   Nov-27-05 09:45 AM   #62 
  - Not a damn bit of good, except maybe putting us in the same...  Liberal Veteran   Nov-26-05 08:58 PM   #3 
  - We need the room in prison for the Bush Republicrooks!  iwanmycntrybak   Nov-26-05 08:59 PM   #5 
  - removes  Lengsel   Nov-26-05 08:59 PM   #6 
  - I can see getting rid of the weights and TV.  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:00 PM   #8 
  - The TV keeps 'em from playing 'Oops, I dropped the soap'  Kierkegaard   Nov-26-05 09:02 PM   #11 
  - heh!  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:04 PM   #12 
  - The TV's not there for the prisoners, it's for the guards  Nevernose   Nov-27-05 02:28 PM   #68 
  - Now see, that's what I've been saying  Bluzmann57   Nov-26-05 10:07 PM   #41 
     - That approach was actually tried in the nineteenth century  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-29-05 06:23 PM   #104 
  - As far as I am concerned....  greatauntoftriplets   Nov-26-05 09:02 PM   #9 
  - amen, my friend.  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:08 PM   #13 
  - I actually met someone who had been on death row in Illinois...  greatauntoftriplets   Nov-26-05 09:15 PM   #16 
     - I'm normally not big on Republicans either  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:28 PM   #28 
  - You are right, you know.  Jamastiene   Nov-26-05 09:51 PM   #38 
     - Wrong  Warpy   Nov-26-05 09:57 PM   #40 
     - Actually, death row is more expensive  usnret88   Nov-27-05 03:36 PM   #77 
        - Do those figures include legal fees?  proud2Blib   Nov-27-05 05:08 PM   #81 
        - Those dollar amounts are from the Fla Dept of Corr web site, and  usnret88   Nov-27-05 05:43 PM   #82 
        - more expensive than what?  MarsThe Cat   Nov-28-05 08:49 AM   #94 
           - More expensive than 'general population',  usnret88   Nov-28-05 10:05 AM   #96 
  - None. Absolutely none.  Sapphire Blue   Nov-26-05 09:02 PM   #10 
  - Serious Or Philosophically?  iamjoy   Nov-26-05 09:08 PM   #14 
  - either way, I suppose.  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:20 PM   #21 
     - Interesting Response  iamjoy   Nov-27-05 08:50 AM   #57 
  - It is a specific deterrent. It's obvious the person put to death can't  beyurslf   Nov-26-05 09:12 PM   #15 
  - nor can he, should he be proven innocent later,  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:23 PM   #23 
  - "Deterrent" means it keeps people from committing the crime in the first  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Nov-27-05 02:59 AM   #53 
  - the death penalty does not deter crime..else TX would be the safest state  stevebreeze   Nov-26-05 09:16 PM   #18 
  - Some people just dont deserve to live. You take a life, you forfeit yours  BigBearJohn   Nov-26-05 09:17 PM   #20 
  - and they do have consequences.  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:25 PM   #27 
  - What good does it do? It keeps them out of MY life.  BigBearJohn   Nov-27-05 02:24 AM   #49 
     - yes, I know they do.  ulysses   Nov-27-05 11:59 AM   #65 
        - What is "right" and "good" is a matter of opinion.  BigBearJohn   Nov-27-05 03:29 PM   #76 
  - wow, that was well thought-out  Bill McBlueState   Nov-26-05 10:50 PM   #44 
  - Oh, please. Now who is going to the extreme? Maybe I should  BigBearJohn   Nov-27-05 02:41 AM   #50 
  - that's what jails are for--consequences  MisterP   Nov-26-05 11:11 PM   #47 
  - So, all the people in death penaty states should be put to death, too?  TahitiNut   Nov-27-05 09:41 AM   #61 
  - If you're not God, you can't decide who deserves to live.  zanne   Nov-27-05 09:48 AM   #63 
     - If there's one passage of the bible that I agree with, it's that  Hippo_Tron   Nov-27-05 03:16 PM   #71 
  - Just another way for vengeful Republicans to kill people in Gods name  Mr_Spock   Nov-26-05 09:23 PM   #25 
  - It's simple human sacrifice. Somebody HAS to DIE.....  Porcupine   Nov-26-05 09:24 PM   #26 
  - I'm with you, ulysses  Steve_DeShazer   Nov-26-05 09:33 PM   #29 
  - it's like some of our kids at school.  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:37 PM   #30 
  - just read in Jimmy Carter's new book  mtowngman   Nov-26-05 09:41 PM   #32 
  - Sr. Helen Prejean's book  auntAgonist   Nov-26-05 09:45 PM   #35 
  - Both great reads  mtowngman   Nov-26-05 09:47 PM   #36 
  - the Prejean quote  ulysses   Nov-26-05 09:48 PM   #37 
  - aside from the moral issue  mtowngman   Nov-26-05 09:51 PM   #39 
     - amen to that. nt  auntAgonist   Nov-26-05 10:39 PM   #42 
  - WOuldnt that strengthen the case for the DP?  Fescue4u   Nov-27-05 02:51 AM   #52 
     - It only reduces the chances, it doesn't eliminate them entirely...  Solon   Nov-27-05 03:37 PM   #78 
  - Unfortunately, the "state" has always reserved the right  Cleita   Nov-26-05 10:47 PM   #43 
  - There were no prisons in the day of the tribe  Hippo_Tron   Nov-27-05 03:20 PM   #72 
     - I have read that they were exiled from the tribe more often than  Cleita   Nov-28-05 01:02 PM   #97 
  - To quote the Twilight Zone  Lannes   Nov-26-05 10:52 PM   #45 
  - Who stands to profit?  TheGunslinger   Nov-26-05 10:58 PM   #46 
  - The Death Penalty is no more effective than Life in Prison.  Odin2005   Nov-26-05 11:21 PM   #48 
  - Stop repeat offenders  Fescue4u   Nov-27-05 02:41 AM   #51 
  - the death penalty as a way to reduce overcrowding in prisons  Bill McBlueState   Nov-27-05 09:49 AM   #64 
     - One  Fescue4u   Nov-27-05 02:20 PM   #66 
  - It prevents that person from killing again...even in jail.  BIG Sean   Nov-27-05 05:59 AM   #54 
  - Thats a good point. Vicious Killers do not stop killing  Fescue4u   Nov-27-05 03:52 PM   #79 
  - It is too a deterrent!  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-27-05 07:46 AM   #55 
  - It does absolutely no "good."  LWolf   Nov-27-05 08:34 AM   #56 
  - It keeps repeat psychopaths from raping and killing again.  HypnoToad   Nov-27-05 08:55 AM   #58 
  - It gives people a sense of security  jmm   Nov-27-05 09:03 AM   #59 
  - I always thought "life in prison"  Catchawave   Nov-27-05 09:31 AM   #60 
  - Prison is actually a good deterrent for white collar criminals  Hippo_Tron   Nov-27-05 03:23 PM   #73 
     - Oh, I agree....  Catchawave   Nov-27-05 04:49 PM   #80 
  - None at all. Except to make us look like the barbarians that we are. n/t  greyhound1966   Nov-27-05 02:24 PM   #67 
  - I used to be a pretty rabid death penalty supporter  Pushed To The Left   Nov-27-05 02:29 PM   #69 
  - no more room and board costs?  barb162   Nov-27-05 02:36 PM   #70 
  - Room and board is actually cheaper  Hippo_Tron   Nov-27-05 03:25 PM   #74 
     - But shouldnt non death penality cases have just as many appeals?  Fescue4u   Nov-27-05 08:29 PM   #85 
        - The appeals are to get the sentence reduced, not to get off  Hippo_Tron   Nov-27-05 11:00 PM   #89 
  - It gets morans elected while giving  BuyingThyme   Nov-27-05 03:26 PM   #75 
  - Tha fact that innocent people  H2O Man   Nov-27-05 05:55 PM   #83 
  - So far they have done a poor job of this.  Fescue4u   Nov-27-05 08:32 PM   #86 
     - The prison system  H2O Man   Nov-27-05 08:37 PM   #87 
     - Wouldn't that make life in prison  mtowngman   Nov-27-05 09:10 PM   #88 
        - It absolutely does  Fescue4u   Nov-28-05 12:13 AM   #90 
           - Then maybe the idea is to look at the penal system  mtowngman   Nov-28-05 09:02 PM   #98 
  - It isn't a deterrent, it doesn't bring the victims back...  terrya   Nov-27-05 06:00 PM   #84 
  - Even the bible says... "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord"  Hippo_Tron   Nov-29-05 02:50 PM   #101 
  - Revenge. There is no other reason. n/t  Hamlette   Nov-28-05 12:32 AM   #91 
  - It make fear-hate driven simpletons happy and wins votes for  ConsAreLiars   Nov-28-05 12:47 AM   #92 
  - This could have been a death penalty case.  Lannes   Nov-28-05 08:38 AM   #93 
  - Violence begets violence.  Swede   Nov-28-05 08:57 AM   #95 
  - Well said, Swede!  FrustratedDemInNC   Nov-29-05 06:44 PM   #105 
  - It's a deterrent only to the one being executed  Southpawkicker   Nov-28-05 09:10 PM   #99 
  - It ensures legal justice.  ErisFiveFingers   Nov-28-05 09:33 PM   #100 
  - heh.  ulysses   Nov-29-05 05:02 PM   #102 
  - The death penalty debate usually ignores those..  moriverrat   Nov-29-05 06:13 PM   #103 

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