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51. Poppy was CIA at least since the late 1950's
Allen Dulles, the first director of the CIA was Prescott Bush's lawyer when he and his business partners were funding Hitler. So in other words, the same traitors who enabled the Third Reich are the ones who founded the CIA.

George HW Bush himself was in all probability in charge of the failed Bay of Pigs operation. Though neither Poppy or the agency will admit to it (due to their secretive nature) Bush's involvement can be proven by any historical record of the Bay of Pigs operation.

Three boats were involved in the plan. The names of the boats were the "Houston", the "Zapata" and the "Barbara". Or in other words, Poppy's hometown, his company name (Zapata Oil) and of course, his wife.

Richard Nixon, in tapes later heard during the Watergate investigation, could be heard discussing "that Bay of Pigs thing" and he would always refer to "the Texans" when talking about it. Those who knew Tricky Dick best, however, realized that when he said "that Bay of Pigs thing", he wasn't referring to just the Cuban invasion attempt, but the JFK assassination itself.

Coincidentally, Nixon was also in Dallas on 11/22/63. He was at a Pepsi shareholders meeting. By no small coincidence, the Pepsi corporation happenned to be one of the companies pressuring the US government to invade Cuba, so they could restore the cheap sugar supply they had under the Batista dictatorship.
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  -The OCTOPUS in Dallas: Poppy involved in JFK Assassination Octafish  Nov-26-05 04:19 PM   #0 
  - Timing of Poppy's call is interesting. He called the FBI an hour and  leveymg   Nov-26-05 04:37 PM   #1 
  - From what's known: Bush has never admitted publicly where he was.  Octafish   Nov-26-05 04:54 PM   #5 
  - He can't recall where he was ??  Pool Hall Ace   Nov-26-05 08:03 PM   #32 
     - Exactly! Good Point, Poll Hall Ace!  AuntiBush   Nov-27-05 09:27 AM   #73 
     - I was in Europe, trying to find a TV--I remember it clearly n/t  MADem   Nov-27-05 04:40 PM   #95 
  - Especially since it was on the news by then. Was this an attempt to  mom cat   Nov-26-05 06:32 PM   #20 
  - More on Parrott from Tarpley and Chaitkin...  Octafish   Nov-26-05 07:42 PM   #27 
  - How do we KNOW GHWB called from 70 miles away?  Festivito   Nov-27-05 01:41 AM   #64 
  - He waited 75 minutes because that's how long it took to drive to Tyler.  smirkymonkey   Nov-27-05 05:26 PM   #98 
  - That's what you refer to as  libhill   Nov-27-05 07:59 PM   #109 
  - Can you paraphrase the info?  demble   Nov-26-05 04:45 PM   #2 
  - Here are transcripts...  Octafish   Nov-26-05 04:59 PM   #8 
     - Thank you!  demble   Nov-26-05 05:43 PM   #18 
     - Octafish you are amazing!  goclark   Nov-27-05 12:57 PM   #88 
  - Interesting! I had heard that he was in Dallas  Catrina   Nov-26-05 04:50 PM   #3 
  - The assassination of JFK has important answers to the corruption today.  shance   Nov-26-05 04:59 PM   #7 
  - Why do I have it in my memory  Karenina   Nov-26-05 07:55 PM   #29 
  - 11/22/63 -  libhill   Nov-27-05 08:23 PM   #111 
  - The Mayor of NYC was there on 911?  johnnyburma   Nov-26-05 06:51 PM   #23 
  - Yeah, IIRC  atfqn   Nov-26-05 07:31 PM   #26 
  - Yeah, he couldn't find his bunker  Catrina   Nov-26-05 10:25 PM   #44 
     - He should explain why he sold the WTC rubble off BEFORE forensics...  RBHam   Nov-26-05 10:37 PM   #46 
        - When RFK was assassinated, the LAPD got rid of the evidence PDQ.  Octafish   Nov-26-05 11:24 PM   #56 
        - And don't forget  libhill   Nov-27-05 08:28 PM   #113 
           - Interesting. The "Fall of Communism" and the "Rise of Terrorism"  KansDem   Nov-28-05 12:34 PM   #135 
              - The war machine always needs an "ism" to keep fighting dont they?  shance   Nov-28-05 01:10 PM   #136 
        - My Plame research tied the sale of WTC rubble to the Khan Network.  robertpaulsen   Nov-28-05 01:14 PM   #137 
           - kick  robertpaulsen   Nov-28-05 04:28 PM   #143 
  - "Maybe it's time to take a close look at all these 'security' firms"  leeroysphits   Nov-26-05 06:55 PM   #24 
  - For some reason, political assassination seems to hit Liberals...  Octafish   Nov-26-05 10:45 PM   #48 
  - Mark Felt was Hoover's prime operative for many COINTELPRO jobs  leveymg   Nov-27-05 05:57 AM   #67 
     - Interesting that you should say "if"  deminks   Nov-27-05 10:28 AM   #81 
     - That's like resigning as a Yale alumnist. Not many do.  leveymg   Nov-27-05 02:45 PM   #92 
     - Mark Felt also was good friends with Charles Colson.  Octafish   Nov-27-05 10:14 PM   #118 
  - Poppy was CIA at least since the late 1950's  AntiCoup2K4   Nov-26-05 11:00 PM   #51 
  - PepsiCo's President Donald M. Kendall also has an interesting  leveymg   Nov-27-05 06:31 AM   #68 
  - Wow! Remarkable...  AuntiBush   Nov-27-05 09:41 AM   #75 
  - "IF" Reagan had died,Poppy would have been President!!  goclark   Nov-28-05 10:17 AM   #130 
  - Thank you for answering my questions re Nixon being in Dallas  Catrina   Nov-27-05 11:18 PM   #122 
  - W Bragged Poppy was CIA in 1973... Two Years BEFORE Poppy was DCI!  Octafish   Nov-27-05 11:44 PM   #123 
  - Catrina Rocks on this post!  goclark   Nov-27-05 01:03 PM   #89 
     - Well -  libhill   Nov-27-05 08:37 PM   #114 
        - Right -do you think the Take Over Started in 1963?  goclark   Nov-27-05 10:59 PM   #120 
           - I do believe  libhill   Nov-27-05 11:06 PM   #121 
              - I believe what you believe  goclark   Nov-28-05 09:43 AM   #128 
                 - It's hard to prove with a grainy picture,  libhill   Nov-28-05 01:55 PM   #142 
                    - It looks like him to me too and since he can't remember  goclark   Nov-28-05 05:27 PM   #144 
                       - LOL  libhill   Nov-29-05 10:01 AM   #160 
                          - He is a snake of the highest order nt  goclark   Nov-29-05 10:26 AM   #161 
  - Babs was with him as well  leftchick   Nov-26-05 04:51 PM   #4 
  - They say that G Gordon Liddy was in Memphis the day ML King  alfredo   Nov-26-05 05:23 PM   #15 
  - babs and georgie were having lunch in a hotel, poppy went away  seabeyond   Nov-26-05 05:31 PM   #17 
  - seabeyond help me out  goclark   Nov-27-05 06:45 PM   #103 
     - one of the bin ladens. yup, i find it simply amazing too n/t  seabeyond   Nov-27-05 08:24 PM   #112 
     - Not really  libhill   Nov-27-05 08:49 PM   #116 
  - Nixon said of her: 'Now there's a woman who knows how to hate.'  Octafish   Nov-26-05 10:55 PM   #49 
  - Here's a link to an article that goes into this in depth  radio4progressives   Nov-26-05 04:54 PM   #6 
  - The Bay of Pigs is surrounded by the Zapata swamps...hence Zapata Offshore  EVDebs   Nov-26-05 05:04 PM   #11 
  - Yeah. I've thought about that article every day since I first read it.  Octafish   Nov-26-05 11:10 PM   #53 
  - Thank you for the link. Terrific, telling article. I thought this part  shance   Nov-27-05 02:45 PM   #91 
  - Did JFK Jr. have evidence?  smirkymonkey   Nov-27-05 05:30 PM   #99 
  - Gee, let's name the CIA's HQ in DC after him...swell idea for posterity  EVDebs   Nov-26-05 05:01 PM   #9 
  - Dallas police reported running into 'Secret Service agents' on the knoll..  Octafish   Nov-26-05 11:36 PM   #58 
  - A link to another more detailed article on the Assassination  shance   Nov-26-05 05:02 PM   #10 
  - Oh yeah. Paul Kangas is great.  Octafish   Nov-27-05 07:33 PM   #107 
  - Plausible deniability a CIA specialty incase his role in the assassination  LibertyorDeath   Nov-26-05 05:10 PM   #12 
  - You got that right, LibertyorDeath. Didya read this hypothesis?  Octafish   Nov-27-05 07:43 PM   #108 
     - Wow they left nothing to chance  LibertyorDeath   Nov-27-05 09:59 PM   #117 
  - Probably the guy at the grassy knoll, with a shotgun.  Rex   Nov-26-05 05:17 PM   #13 
  - We[ve argued the facts for 42 years. We should ask: 'Who benefitted?'  Octafish   Nov-27-05 08:41 PM   #115 
     - Bookmarked forever Octafish!  goclark   Nov-28-05 09:12 PM   #148 
     - Just way to many holes in the lone gunman theory  Rex   Nov-29-05 12:13 AM   #157 
  - Well some people think this is him  wakeme2008   Nov-26-05 05:18 PM   #14 
  - thanks for the pic  toymachines   Nov-26-05 08:56 PM   #38 
  - A striking likeness. E Howard Hunt may've been there, too.  Octafish   Nov-27-05 11:54 PM   #124 
  - Wow. That definitely looks like Bush Sr.  Oregonian   Nov-28-05 11:00 AM   #132 
  - Wasn't Oswald an  alfredo   Nov-26-05 05:24 PM   #16 
  - LHO's earliest association with the CIA was....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-26-05 11:12 PM   #54 
     - Rather fishy. I do remember seeing a picture of him arriving from  alfredo   Nov-26-05 11:46 PM   #59 
     - Lee Harvey...you're a madman  Darkwingbird   Nov-27-05 12:32 PM   #85 
        - Welcome to DU, Darkwingbird!  Oregonian   Nov-28-05 11:01 AM   #133 
  - The most venal revelation  PATRICK   Nov-26-05 05:44 PM   #19 
  - Thom Hartmann - Ultimate Sacrifice: Plan for a Coup-and the Murder of JFK  FogerRox   Nov-26-05 06:34 PM   #21 
     - Just picked up a copy of Ultimate Sacrifice tonight - a very LARGE book!  SmileMaker   Nov-26-05 08:32 PM   #34 
     - Hartmann had Waldron on his show again on Thanksgiving day (24th).  nicknameless   Nov-27-05 03:27 AM   #65 
     - Sorry, but the people running JFK's autopsy.....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-27-05 03:49 AM   #66 
  - Just Googling around, I found this.  Gregorian   Nov-26-05 06:38 PM   #22 
  - Now that is telling.  Maestro   Nov-26-05 07:49 PM   #28 
  - There has been a group of men who have been pulling the  lovuian   Nov-26-05 07:03 PM   #25 
  - Of course he was  FreedomAngel82   Nov-26-05 07:57 PM   #30 
  - Great post as always Octafish. I wish that you'ld comment on "Catcher in  WiseButAngrySara   Nov-26-05 08:02 PM   #31 
  - Wasn't "Catcher in the Rye" used as such in the Mel Gibson movie  Athame   Nov-26-05 08:29 PM   #33 
  - Yes! I'm sure the reason was because of these Reagan Lennon  WiseButAngrySara   Nov-26-05 08:36 PM   #36 
  - Thanks, WiseButAngrySara!That's fascinating stuff, there...  Octafish   Nov-27-05 12:42 PM   #86 
  - Thanks so much! This is fascinating...I had no idea that Salinger might  WiseButAngrySara   Nov-27-05 05:09 PM   #97 
     - Why I feel sorry (in a way) for Poppy...  Octafish   Nov-27-05 07:23 PM   #106 
        - Octafish thanks for the new info on this slime ball  goclark   Nov-28-05 10:08 AM   #129 
  - You have a good point there -  libhill   Nov-27-05 10:43 PM   #119 
  - I just turned on the History Channel, and The JFK Conspiracy Theory  WiseButAngrySara   Nov-26-05 08:32 PM   #35 
  - Yeah, I just watched it. Don't waste your time. You'll get pissed.  leanin_green   Nov-26-05 09:25 PM   #40 
  - A pox on America!  gulfcoastliberal   Nov-26-05 08:48 PM   #37 
  - Yes, and this nation has been taken hostage ever since.  goforit   Nov-26-05 09:20 PM   #39 
  - Democrat and Republican alike, I'm sad to say.  leanin_green   Nov-26-05 09:32 PM   #41 
     - No doubt. It is an issue of corruption of power and classism, which  shance   Nov-27-05 12:50 AM   #61 
  - If any of you remember the Oliver Stone "JFK" movie, and I know  spenbax   Nov-26-05 09:34 PM   #42 
  - Are you talking about the woman that was pushed out of a car that....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-26-05 11:15 PM   #55 
  - Very much a fact. Read "A Farewell to Justice" by Joan Mellen  shance   Nov-27-05 12:53 AM   #62 
  - So many books to read. Did she die before she could tell them  spenbax   Nov-27-05 09:48 AM   #77 
     - No, Joan Mellen is a professor at Temple University. She met Garrison  shance   Nov-27-05 02:34 PM   #90 
        - Thanks. Sounds like a book I might like to read, although I'm  spenbax   Nov-27-05 06:50 PM   #104 
  - Yes, that's the one. I wonder if she told them anything else.  spenbax   Nov-27-05 09:46 AM   #76 
  - Rose Cheramie was her name I believe  long_green   Nov-27-05 10:19 AM   #80 
     - More information on Rose Cheramie  shance   Nov-28-05 05:33 PM   #145 
  - If you serve a noble cause, there is no need to hide in shadows.  RBHam   Nov-26-05 10:00 PM   #43 
  - Absolutely. He and Eisenhower both had been betrayed by those agencies.  shance   Nov-27-05 12:48 AM   #60 
  - kick  DemonFighterLives   Nov-26-05 10:36 PM   #45 
  - This site has a photo of a guy in Dallas in 1963 that looks exactly like..  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-26-05 10:44 PM   #47 
  - It really does look like him.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Nov-27-05 09:02 AM   #70 
     - That's the Photo!  AuntiBush   Nov-27-05 09:28 AM   #74 
        - I saw this photo a while back and couldn't get over the  OmmmSweetOmmm   Nov-27-05 10:03 AM   #79 
  - Too bad we can't convice Clinton that his new buddy is  Cleita   Nov-26-05 10:58 PM   #50 
  - Or he had something on him during his stint as govenor. . .  leanin_green   Nov-27-05 01:14 AM   #63 
  - The whole damn cabul, a bunch of serial killers!  lonestarnot   Nov-26-05 11:09 PM   #52 
  - Sure.. AND he was involved in the attempt on Ronnie Raygun's life..  all_hail_gwb   Nov-26-05 11:35 PM   #57 
  - VIDEO online, JFKII: The Bush Connection, that discusses this  OmmmSweetOmmm   Nov-27-05 07:02 AM   #69 
  - Isn't there a Photo Here on DU of Poppy in Dallas  AuntiBush   Nov-27-05 09:24 AM   #71 
  - See post #47 and/or #70  OmmmSweetOmmm   Nov-27-05 09:26 AM   #72 
  - Octafish, please respond to post #31! I'm so curious as to your opinion  WiseButAngrySara   Nov-27-05 09:54 AM   #78 
  - The Carlyle Group  stubtoe   Nov-27-05 11:16 AM   #82 
  - Hi  doodie   Nov-27-05 12:06 PM   #84 
  - Welcome to DU, doodie!  stubtoe   Nov-27-05 06:11 PM   #101 
  - Carlyle  rman   Nov-29-05 03:38 AM   #158 
  - beam me back up  annces8   Nov-27-05 11:56 AM   #83 
  - I shook hands with JFK and the clan in 1958 as a wee lad.  dbeach   Nov-27-05 12:56 PM   #87 
  - I've even heard that Guido Fawkes was somehow involved...  T Town Jake   Nov-28-05 02:56 AM   #125 
     - Isn't that what J Edgar Hoover believed?  Octafish   Nov-28-05 08:29 AM   #126 
  - From the Demopedia....Zapata  Joanne98   Nov-27-05 03:26 PM   #93 
  - "All SEC filings of Zapata between 1960 and 1966 were sadly destroyed  shance   Nov-27-05 04:00 PM   #94 
  - Surely someone should at least research James Parrot & Mss Fawley & Smith  althecat   Nov-27-05 04:42 PM   #96 
  - thank you Octafish and others who contribute to this body of knowledge. I  mod mom   Nov-27-05 05:58 PM   #100 
  - I feel the same-a BIG THANKS from me too!  TheGoldenRule   Nov-27-05 06:37 PM   #102 
  - it's HIS world...  MarsThe Cat   Nov-27-05 06:53 PM   #105 
  - On that fateful day, the corporacrats violated a democratic nation,...  Just Me   Nov-27-05 08:07 PM   #110 
  - A kick for the truth!  Swamp Rat   Nov-28-05 08:32 AM   #127 
  - Is this NEW info? why is this being brought up now?  Up2Late   Nov-28-05 10:50 AM   #131 
  - "why is this being brought up now?"  redqueen   Nov-28-05 01:25 PM   #139 
  - This will be new to many people.  Bridget Burke   Nov-28-05 01:29 PM   #140 
  - The driver?  libhill   Nov-28-05 01:49 PM   #141 
  - Has there ever been an investigation of the driver of the president's car?  shance   Nov-28-05 11:51 AM   #134 
  - Nixon was in Dallas the morning of the assassination  WI_DEM   Nov-28-05 01:17 PM   #138 
  - Hey Octafish, any more info on whether this document was real or a hoax?  robertpaulsen   Nov-28-05 07:40 PM   #146 
  - I still want to believe, but I have my doubts...  Octafish   Nov-28-05 09:31 PM   #150 
  - Thanks Octafish. Maybe it's like the W AWOL forgery Rather got.  robertpaulsen   Nov-29-05 02:34 PM   #162 
  - Hey there robertpaulsen  seemslikeadream   Nov-29-05 07:51 AM   #159 
     - Hi seemslikeadream!  robertpaulsen   Nov-29-05 02:48 PM   #163 
  - It HAD to be an 'INSIDE JOB' by elements of the U.S. Government.  Octafish   Nov-28-05 08:55 PM   #147 
  - AND, who had the power to stack the Warren Commission?  shance   Nov-28-05 09:24 PM   #149 
  - Wink Wink  Octafish   Nov-28-05 09:38 PM   #151 
     - Well that's interesting. A picture is worth 1000 words.  shance   Nov-28-05 10:19 PM   #153 
  - That Right and the Left turns are against SS rules you know  Up2Late   Nov-30-05 01:59 AM   #164 
  - That;s the day the RW began the takeover of the country  TOJ   Nov-28-05 09:40 PM   #152 
  - And if Americans cannot face the truth, than we cannot change our future.  shance   Nov-28-05 10:24 PM   #154 
  - they killed 2 viable presidential candidates and 1 president Kennedy  upi402   Nov-28-05 10:42 PM   #155 
     - Yes they did. They killed leadership which was giving a positive vision  shance   Nov-28-05 11:50 PM   #156 
 

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