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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:59 PM
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1. Doesn't bother me in the least.
"...and commemorate Wesley Clark's lifelong commitment to public service."

If a lifetime in the military isn't public service, what is? Why the empahasis on those last words?
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  -is anyone else bothered by Clark's "New American Patriotism"? pruner  Oct-16-03 08:57 PM   #0 
  - Doesn't bother me in the least.  Padraig18   Oct-16-03 08:59 PM   #1 
  - I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a lifetime in public service  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:01 PM   #2 
  - You are so blinded by your  OKNancy   Oct-16-03 09:07 PM   #12 
  - you missed my whole point  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:11 PM   #20 
     - I responded to your post about service and it being crass  OKNancy   Oct-16-03 09:22 PM   #43 
     - I am not attempting to smear Clark  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:25 PM   #49 
        - I find that hard to believe  RandomUser   Oct-16-03 09:32 PM   #55 
        - please point me to an "anti-Clark" post of mine  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:35 PM   #59 
           - Unfortunately  RandomUser   Oct-16-03 09:43 PM   #62 
              - no problem  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:45 PM   #64 
                 - Indeed  RandomUser   Oct-16-03 09:48 PM   #66 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 10:17 PM   #80 
           - start eating  pruner   Oct-16-03 10:20 PM   #81 
     - What's wrong with "patriotism"  maha   Oct-16-03 10:13 PM   #78 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 10:22 PM   #83 
        - nasty  CWebster   Oct-16-03 10:44 PM   #96 
        - Unless you're a  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 10:44 PM   #97 
     - No, you are the one that is totally missing the point.  Brian Sweat   Oct-16-03 11:56 PM   #118 
  - are you really the target market?  sweetheart   Oct-16-03 09:09 PM   #16 
  - I should think that all Americans are the target market  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:32 PM   #56 
  - What market would that be?  maha   Oct-16-03 10:22 PM   #82 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 11:06 PM   #104 
     - Well then, we can assume you are not the target market,  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:01 AM   #120 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-17-03 12:28 AM   #133 
     - Then let's just give up, OK?  maha   Oct-17-03 10:38 AM   #155 
  - the source for your stats  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 10:46 PM   #98 
     - what are you attacking?  sweetheart   Oct-16-03 11:26 PM   #111 
        - My statistics are sound you say...............  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 11:31 PM   #114 
  - Check out his speech - this is a slam at Bush & the Pubs!! Brilliant!  janekat   Oct-16-03 09:18 PM   # 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 09:12 PM   #22 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 09:13 PM   #23 
        - I can't believe it either  RandomUser   Oct-16-03 09:24 PM   #48 
           - I didn't have the misfortune...  Andromeda   Oct-17-03 12:06 AM   #123 
  - I hate to say this, but you're going to have to accept....  dweeb   Oct-16-03 09:02 PM   #3 
  - very smart post....  familydoctor   Oct-16-03 09:07 PM   #10 
  - Yep , you're right .  bowens43   Oct-16-03 09:13 PM   #25 
  - Oh, Are You Still Believing Those Republican Shills?  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-16-03 09:20 PM   #38 
  - Yawn.....  bowens43   Oct-16-03 09:29 PM   #52 
     - Yawn yourself  kiahzero   Oct-16-03 09:47 PM   #65 
     - I don't deny any of this.  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:05 AM   #121 
  - but all of politics is a game  dweeb   Oct-16-03 09:21 PM   #39 
  - The problem is  bowens43   Oct-16-03 09:35 PM   #60 
     - NO, Clark is in it for the people who asked him to run...  familydoctor   Oct-16-03 10:33 PM   #88 
     - Clark is not in it for the game...  Andromeda   Oct-17-03 12:39 AM   #138 
  - Garbage.  maha   Oct-16-03 10:15 PM   #79 
  - No way...  Andromeda   Oct-17-03 12:25 AM   #130 
  - Defuse the GOP myth?  Pastiche423   Oct-16-03 09:24 PM   #47 
  - I agree 100%  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:37 PM   #61 
  - We don't want to play by their rules  union_maid   Oct-16-03 10:35 PM   #90 
  - Co-opt, play by...  Pastiche423   Oct-16-03 10:51 PM   #100 
     - Get Real  Bertrand   Oct-17-03 12:52 AM   # 
     - fair enough  TexasPatriot   Oct-17-03 12:52 AM   #140 
  - We're playing by our own rules here  jumptheshadow   Oct-17-03 04:45 AM   #143 
  - Please do. And help me while you are at it, if you can.  stickdog   Oct-16-03 10:33 PM   #87 
  - It's so intellectually dishonest to say that pubic service and patriot ism  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 11:03 PM   #103 
  - No wonder women don't care for Clark  CWebster   Oct-16-03 11:14 PM   #108 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 11:59 PM   #119 
     - Yeah right  CWebster   Oct-17-03 06:26 AM   #148 
     - Shiny medals and miliatry service are not the only measure of  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:10 AM   #124 
        - It isn't at the top  CWebster   Oct-17-03 06:27 AM   #149 
           - Nice non-answer.  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 10:22 AM   #153 
  - Hate to say this BUT...pol. games aside, truth only>US murders millions.  JohnOneillsMemory   Oct-17-03 12:14 AM   #126 
  - As a supporter, I don't think it is crass....  familydoctor   Oct-16-03 09:03 PM   #4 
  - It's a good idea  quinnox   Oct-16-03 09:04 PM   #5 
  - Not Me  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-16-03 09:04 PM   #6 
  - community service  cid   Oct-16-03 09:17 PM   #29 
     - Umm...Huh?  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-16-03 09:19 PM   #34 
     - let me clarify once again  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:20 PM   #37 
        - So Let ME Say Once Again  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-16-03 09:21 PM   #40 
        - I like the idea of showing the people what real patriotism is.  Kerryfan   Oct-16-03 09:34 PM   #57 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 10:25 PM   #84 
           - Score another one for the MAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 11:11 PM   #107 
           - High five, baby.  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:19 AM   #129 
     - Absoletely, because it is impossible to have multiple reasons.  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:12 AM   #125 
  - He gets to define it as he wishes.  BillyBunter   Oct-16-03 09:04 PM   #7 
  - I think he's doing right on both accounts  unfrigginreal   Oct-16-03 09:05 PM   #8 
  - it's the title that bugs me  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:08 PM   #14 
  - And your avatar bothers me...  Democrats unite   Oct-16-03 09:18 PM   #31 
  - Don't you get it - says he's tired of how the Pubs have hijacked the term  janekat   Oct-16-03 09:23 PM   #46 
     - I was speaking of the leaf  Democrats unite   Oct-16-03 09:31 PM   #53 
     - Pruner doesn't want to get it  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 11:16 PM   #109 
        - as I've stated numerous times already  pruner   Oct-16-03 11:42 PM   #115 
           - Ok then, how is Clark defining a new patriotism that welcomes dissent  Clark Can WIN   Oct-17-03 12:05 AM   #122 
              - Elaborate please.  Clark Can WIN   Oct-17-03 12:38 AM   #137 
  - And that fancy title is strategically brilliant  RandomUser   Oct-16-03 09:10 PM   #19 
     - so you're saying it's wrong for the GOP to coopt the term "patriotism"  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:13 PM   #24 
        - Yes, Because Clark Is Right  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-16-03 09:15 PM   #28 
        - I think patriotism is a concept best defined by the individual  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:18 PM   #33 
           - OK, Fine  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-16-03 09:19 PM   #35 
           - thanks for not resorting to name-calling DTH  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:22 PM   #41 
              - It's All Good  DoveTurnedHawk   Oct-16-03 09:25 PM   #50 
           - Clark is not "coopting" patriotism  maha   Oct-16-03 10:26 PM   #85 
        - Yes it's wrong for the GOP to insinuate that patriotism(love of country)..  unfrigginreal   Oct-16-03 09:22 PM   #42 
        - Gop is saying if you do not agree with Bush you are unpatriotic.  Kerryfan   Oct-16-03 09:55 PM   #72 
        - When Bush invokes "patriotism" he means do what I say and like it  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 11:27 PM   #112 
        - Simple equation formula  Clark Can WIN   Oct-17-03 12:14 AM   #127 
  - It just plain gives me the willies  Pastiche423   Oct-16-03 09:06 PM   #9 
  - That's exactly the attitude....  familydoctor   Oct-16-03 09:07 PM   #13 
  - wrong it's attitudes like yours that are doing that  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:09 PM   #15 
     - Ok, here it goes.....  familydoctor   Oct-16-03 09:23 PM   #45 
        - I never said I don't like Clark  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:31 PM   #54 
        - Wow Pruner, for Clark to be your number 2 guy....  familydoctor   Oct-16-03 09:44 PM   #63 
        - 1st of all  Pastiche423   Oct-16-03 09:55 PM   #70 
           - It seems as if it is settled in your own mind that we...  familydoctor   Oct-16-03 10:38 PM   #92 
           - Aha!  Pastiche423   Oct-16-03 10:58 PM   #102 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-03 11:55 PM   #117 
                 - If they had an emoticon for a hi five.............. I'd give it!  Clark Can WIN   Oct-17-03 12:27 AM   #132 
           - Confident in YOUR Party??  Speed8098   Oct-17-03 05:46 AM   #145 
  - Caring About And Connecting To Others NEVER Sucks  cryingshame   Oct-16-03 09:29 PM   #51 
  - Here's something funny.  Bleachers7   Oct-16-03 11:49 PM   #116 
  - Honoring public service in this way is a good thing  goobergunch   Oct-16-03 09:07 PM   #11 
  - i have to figure behind the scenes  sweetheart   Oct-16-03 09:18 PM   #32 
  - He's saying dissent is Patriotic  andym   Oct-16-03 09:09 PM   #17 
  - But Clark's supporters paint a difrent story.  Code_Name_D   Oct-16-03 09:34 PM   #58 
     - As you can see Clark is not my first choice, but  Kerryfan   Oct-16-03 09:50 PM   #67 
     - I was not criticizing Clark I was criticizing his choice of words  pruner   Oct-16-03 09:53 PM   #69 
     - You stated 2 things that rub you the wrong way about Clark .  Kerryfan   Oct-16-03 10:07 PM   #74 
        - you're right Kerryfan  pruner   Oct-16-03 10:12 PM   #77 
        - Thanks Kerryfan  Clark Can WIN   Oct-17-03 12:35 AM   #136 
     - The cats, vs. the rats.  Code_Name_D   Oct-16-03 10:11 PM   #76 
     - I am sure that in your little world defending your candidate against  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:18 AM   #128 
        - /\__Case in point.  Code_Name_D   Oct-17-03 09:56 AM   #152 
           - No - it's not a case in point.  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 10:27 AM   #154 
              - Pigman suports Clark!!!  Code_Name_D   Oct-17-03 10:40 AM   #156 
  - the difference between what Clark is doing  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-16-03 09:09 PM   #18 
  - I love the idea of New American Patriotism  union_maid   Oct-16-03 09:12 PM   #21 
  - improving communities isn't such a bad thing  syrinx9999   Oct-16-03 09:14 PM   #26 
  - "There is nothing more patriotic than speaking speaking out, questioning  janekat   Oct-16-03 09:15 PM   #27 
  - This is what bothers ME  bumbler   Oct-16-03 09:17 PM   #30 
  - I Care About The Extended Family That Is America  cryingshame   Oct-16-03 09:20 PM   #36 
  - cryingshame you hit the nail right on the head.  Democrats unite   Oct-16-03 09:23 PM   #44 
  - No  Ronnie   Oct-16-03 09:51 PM   #68 
  - On the contrary.  gulliver   Oct-16-03 09:55 PM   #71 
  - I am not bothered.  coralrf   Oct-16-03 10:00 PM   #73 
  - Oooo, evil evil public service.  maha   Oct-16-03 10:10 PM   #75 
  - I have no problem with Clark's  stickdog   Oct-16-03 10:29 PM   #86 
  - I'm glad I'm not the only one  Pastiche423   Oct-16-03 10:37 PM   #91 
  - If he's cReEpY, who's your choice.  Speed8098   Oct-17-03 05:51 AM   #146 
  - This Patriotism stuff makes me like I'm living back in the 1950's.  ozone_man   Oct-16-03 10:42 PM   #95 
     - As someone else said, that is your problem.  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:26 AM   #131 
     - The thing is Bush puts on a flight suit  Clark Can WIN   Oct-17-03 12:50 AM   #139 
  - If the definition bothers you then I humbly suggest you have NOT READ IT  Clark Can WIN   Oct-16-03 10:35 PM   #89 
  - And once AGAIN  Pastiche423   Oct-16-03 10:42 PM   #94 
  - Yes and no  CWebster   Oct-16-03 10:41 PM   #93 
  - I have nothing against patriotism  jiacinto   Oct-16-03 10:48 PM   #99 
  - I have nothing against patriotism either  pruner   Oct-16-03 10:51 PM   #101 
  - I don't see it  sangha   Oct-16-03 11:08 PM   #105 
  - Please show where Clark is trying to define what patriotism means.  Brian Sweat   Oct-17-03 12:29 AM   #134 
  - How do you define patriotism, Carlos? n/t  DisgustipatedinCA   Oct-16-03 11:09 PM   #106 
  - I am  gate of the sun   Oct-16-03 11:19 PM   #110 
  - Nope...  FDRrocks   Oct-16-03 11:29 PM   #113 
  - and if we take the patriotism away  Frenchie4Clark   Oct-17-03 12:55 AM   #141 
     - Nice post...  familydoctor   Oct-17-03 05:18 AM   #144 
  - Why should I be bothered by an expanded Americorps?  Rowdyboy   Oct-17-03 12:33 AM   #135 
  - Sorry, I already do Sweetest Day!  InkAddict   Oct-17-03 01:31 AM   #142 
     - "Take the Second Slot, Wes - I'm having a trust problem!"  Speed8098   Oct-17-03 05:57 AM   #147 
        - because she's a women  CWebster   Oct-17-03 06:31 AM   #150 
           - Can you say vol-un-tary?  Rowdyboy   Oct-17-03 06:50 AM   #151 
 

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