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Wed Nov-16-05 09:37 AM
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| 40. It's not just factory jobs |
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high tech, engineering, accounting, even legal positions. Higher paying jobs. Virtually everything in offshorable these days, with workers forced into lower paying service sector jobs, and executives lining their pockets with cost cutting bonuses.
It's utter bullshit.
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| -I think outsourcing is a red herring. |
bezdomny |
Nov-15-05 01:49 AM |
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Northwest Airlines to outsource thousands of flight attendant jobs |
Bluebear |
Nov-15-05 01:53 AM |
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It's terrible, I know, |
bezdomny |
Nov-15-05 01:57 AM |
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Treaties |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-15-05 02:00 AM |
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In this instance, they could insist the foreign nationals... |
Bluebear |
Nov-15-05 02:06 AM |
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and this is a great example of where it is a matter of policy, not |
expatriot |
Nov-15-05 02:00 AM |
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They are squeezing the US worker at both ends |
dogday |
Nov-16-05 08:39 AM |
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The problem is not outsourcing as you pointed out |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-15-05 01:55 AM |
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It is complicated. But all those industrial jobs - they all produced |
applegrove |
Nov-15-05 01:56 AM |
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There is nothing inevitable |
julianer |
Nov-15-05 02:38 AM |
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No but do you seriously think we have a future if people continue to |
applegrove |
Nov-15-05 06:08 AM |
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You've got the wrong end of the stick |
julianer |
Nov-15-05 03:27 PM |
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That is why we have to make regulations across the board. Trade does |
applegrove |
Nov-16-05 12:26 AM |
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Firstly, regulation doesn't work |
julianer |
Nov-16-05 02:23 AM |
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Regulations are simply laws. That is all they are. Are you saying "rule |
applegrove |
Nov-16-05 02:29 AM |
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What I am saying is not so difficult to understand |
julianer |
Nov-16-05 08:36 AM |
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You say they do not work. They work if they are enforced. If campaign |
applegrove |
Nov-16-05 04:57 PM |
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Yes, we are powerless |
julianer |
Nov-17-05 05:37 AM |
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I'll tell you the corporations have taken over. |
rman |
Nov-17-05 11:06 AM |
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Those Third World countries would be much better off in trading blocs |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-16-05 10:21 AM |
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I agree with much of what you say. |
applegrove |
Nov-16-05 04:58 PM |
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Thanks for this. It's very interesting. |
bezdomny |
Nov-15-05 03:09 AM |
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I completely agree with you |
aquart |
Nov-15-05 02:14 AM |
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ROFLMAO |
foreigncorrespondent |
Nov-15-05 02:20 AM |
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Well, I put it up front for a reason. |
bezdomny |
Nov-15-05 03:18 AM |
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I won't flay you alive because I "know a lot more about politics..." |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-15-05 02:15 AM |
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He \she will once the salary goes down to 50 cents |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-15-05 02:23 AM |
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S/he lives in Shanghai according to the profile |
Bluebear |
Nov-15-05 02:24 AM |
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Did not check it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-15-05 02:25 AM |
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She. |
bezdomny |
Nov-15-05 03:36 AM |
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You're taking that quote out of context. |
bezdomny |
Nov-15-05 03:30 AM |
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You're right... |
Sapphocrat |
Nov-15-05 06:57 PM |
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I agree with almost everything you've said. |
bezdomny |
Nov-16-05 02:41 AM |
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What Sapphocrat said. |
area51 |
Nov-15-05 06:10 AM |
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Due to outsourcing industry, this nation is screwed if there |
Skidmore |
Nov-15-05 06:21 AM |
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What they have gotten rid of is "civil goods". Not the nanotechnology, |
applegrove |
Nov-15-05 06:34 AM |
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The government could prohibit corporations |
rman |
Nov-15-05 07:24 AM |
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Seeing as how 95% of the middle class will live outside the USA |
applegrove |
Nov-15-05 09:12 AM |
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Is that an argument in support of allowing corporations to exploit |
rman |
Nov-16-05 07:18 AM |
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no - I am saying that if we do not trade and open up our markets to |
applegrove |
Nov-16-05 10:42 PM |
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It's not about not trading - it's about not exploiting people. |
rman |
Nov-17-05 10:01 AM |
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You assume everyone in a trading relationship is being exploited. |
applegrove |
Nov-17-05 05:53 PM |
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I assume nothing - i am informed. |
rman |
Nov-18-05 05:11 AM |
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Now how did Japan industrialize? They had access to the USA market |
applegrove |
Nov-18-05 01:20 PM |
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The other bogus argument they use is that they're doing it for the good of |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-16-05 10:26 AM |
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Why do all less developed nation's economists and thinkers back |
applegrove |
Nov-16-05 10:44 PM |
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They want advantages for their exports, but unfortunately, that tends to |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-17-05 01:32 AM |
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It is the protected industries of the West that should come down. |
applegrove |
Nov-17-05 05:14 AM |
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I wouldn't count Africa out in the long term |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-17-05 09:25 AM |
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Everybody except the elites get cut out of the discussion |
Armstead |
Nov-17-05 10:11 AM |
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They don't |
rman |
Nov-17-05 10:25 AM |
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I'm not for strict IMF following. And I think that yes - countries need to |
applegrove |
Nov-17-05 05:43 PM |
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Which is why big corporation like to do business in those nations |
rman |
Nov-18-05 05:30 AM |
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The Clintons & other third wayers are big fans of De Soto. Microbanking |
applegrove |
Nov-18-05 01:25 PM |
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very broadly -- 2 things. |
xchrom |
Nov-15-05 07:29 AM |
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Outsourcing is as bad for the American worker as illegals are |
Loonman |
Nov-15-05 09:17 AM |
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Are illegals bad for the American worker or are the... |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-16-05 08:41 AM |
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Both |
Loonman |
Nov-16-05 08:47 AM |
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YOU ARE RIGHT!!!! |
dcfirefighter |
Nov-16-05 09:20 AM |
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I think the situation isn't as narrow or cozy as you make it out to be. |
HypnoToad |
Nov-17-05 06:27 PM |
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We could close the loophole |
CornField |
Nov-16-05 09:30 AM |
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We could use a carrot and a stick approach |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-16-05 10:31 AM |
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It's not just factory jobs |
mnmoderatedem |
Nov-16-05 09:37 AM |
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I'd like to add that most jobs are lost because |
entanglement |
Nov-16-05 06:18 PM |
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I do have a suggestion about stores like Wal-Mart. |
Cleita |
Nov-16-05 10:52 PM |
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No, outsourcing is VERY real... |
JCMach1 |
Nov-16-05 11:00 PM |
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Such Fatalism is the result of corporate brainwashing |
Armstead |
Nov-17-05 09:56 AM |
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Yes, the government can do something about it! |
Jim__ |
Nov-17-05 10:03 AM |
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There Are Things That Can Be Done |
ProfessorGAC |
Nov-17-05 11:18 AM |
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Here's a thought, or many: |
HypnoToad |
Nov-17-05 06:10 PM |
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