| 157. ROFL! You nailed it, thanks! |
| -all marriage is now illegal in Texas? because of screw-up in anti-gay |
Algorem |
Nov-08-05 11:40 PM |
#0 |
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Well, here's the official wording, you decide: |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:42 PM |
#1 |
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Sounds really confusing |
FreedomAngel82 |
Nov-08-05 11:43 PM |
#2 |
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Well first it defines marriage as one man, one woman |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:45 PM |
#4 |
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Which man and which woman? |
Jed Dilligan |
Nov-08-05 11:47 PM |
#9 |
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LOL. |
lizzy |
Nov-09-05 07:26 AM |
#118 |
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UNfortunately that couple is aWoL and Pickles |
Vincardog |
Nov-09-05 05:54 PM |
#205 |
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That's my first thought. I think someone should sue. |
newscott |
Nov-09-05 01:56 PM |
#198 |
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I see it now |
FreedomAngel82 |
Nov-08-05 11:49 PM |
#14 |
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You're hired! |
Lex |
Nov-09-05 12:24 AM |
#79 |
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LOL, I used to be a technical writer. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:26 AM |
#80 |
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So many laws have been screwed up because of bad statutory drafting. |
Lex |
Nov-09-05 12:28 AM |
#84 |
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You guys might be interested in the analysis |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:34 AM |
#86 |
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I just raised the same question about Ohio, in a reply below. |
bluedawg12 |
Nov-09-05 09:09 AM |
#146 |
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How can you prove something is wrong if it is exactly the same |
Rex |
Nov-09-05 07:19 AM |
#117 |
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Very good. Very good |
ComerPerro |
Nov-09-05 09:24 AM |
#165 |
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Isn't this the same legislature that tried to outlaw sodomy and |
izzybeans |
Nov-09-05 06:28 PM |
#209 |
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I'm a 3rd year law student |
northernsoul |
Nov-09-05 11:19 AM |
#192 |
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B for Bad Writing |
fortyfeetunder |
Nov-08-05 11:44 PM |
#3 |
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Basically says they're the only ones... |
cynatnite |
Nov-08-05 11:45 PM |
#5 |
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I realize that's what they were trying to say, but the way it's |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:47 PM |
#11 |
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It makes sense to me... |
cynatnite |
Nov-08-05 11:52 PM |
#23 |
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A question: |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:55 PM |
#27 |
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Yeah, you're right about that... |
cynatnite |
Nov-09-05 12:00 AM |
#41 |
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Your interpretation is wrong |
Walt Starr |
Nov-09-05 09:04 AM |
#140 |
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Just to split hairs. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:07 AM |
#144 |
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Doesn't say "between" |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-09-05 03:36 PM |
#202 |
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Sounds pretty simple to me |
notawol |
Nov-08-05 11:46 PM |
#8 |
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ROFL! |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:48 PM |
#12 |
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I'm sure they can get |
FreedomAngel82 |
Nov-08-05 11:51 PM |
#18 |
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Guess we won't be seeing any of THIS in the near future, then... |
mark11727 |
Nov-08-05 11:56 PM |
#31 |
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Camilla looks like she's smirking at Laura. |
loudsue |
Nov-09-05 12:26 AM |
#82 |
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Hmmm...the rich are different aren't they? n/t |
bluedawg12 |
Nov-09-05 08:57 AM |
#132 |
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Jeeee-zus, did Laura get into hubby's coke stash or something? |
IntravenousDemilo |
Nov-09-05 04:05 AM |
#112 |
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Big LOL |
Robert Cooper |
Nov-09-05 05:26 AM |
#113 |
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that's pretty funny stuff.i guess they think it'll go to court. |
Algorem |
Nov-08-05 11:47 PM |
#10 |
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Marriage is not "identical or similar to" marriage. It is marriage. |
WatchWhatISay |
Nov-08-05 11:50 PM |
#15 |
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But marriage that is identical to marriage is marriage. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:51 PM |
#20 |
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Identical means "the same as." |
Lex |
Nov-09-05 12:26 AM |
#81 |
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The self |
jbnow |
Nov-09-05 07:06 AM |
#116 |
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I guess so...... |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 08:07 AM |
#120 |
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"the horror.... the horror..." |
twominuteshate |
Nov-08-05 11:57 PM |
# |
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stick figures |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-09-05 09:55 AM |
#182 |
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Isn't the woman one wearing a triangle dress? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:57 AM |
#184 |
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So maybe it's supporting man-transvestite marriage. |
dean_dem |
Nov-09-05 03:48 PM |
#203 |
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Yes |
WatchWhatISay |
Nov-09-05 05:38 PM |
#204 |
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Um, the way I read it (b) cancels out (a) completely... |
truebrit71 |
Nov-08-05 11:56 PM |
#32 |
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Exactly how I read it. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:58 PM |
#39 |
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You are no longer married |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-08-05 11:57 PM |
#36 |
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Yeah, particularly if it's ONLY one man and one woman. |
impeachdubya |
Nov-09-05 12:20 AM |
#71 |
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DAMN! |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:21 AM |
#74 |
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MAY NOT CREATE OR RECOGNIZE ANY LEGAL STATUS IDENTICAL or similar to MARRI |
bluedawg12 |
Nov-09-05 12:50 AM |
#92 |
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Just read a, then b. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:53 AM |
#95 |
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They don't have to point back to (a), it is a given in this text. |
bluedawg12 |
Nov-09-05 08:55 AM |
#128 |
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How is it a given? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:00 AM |
#135 |
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B uses the term defined in A. |
mccoyn |
Nov-09-05 11:35 AM |
#195 |
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B says the state can not recognize A face it there is only at most |
Vincardog |
Nov-09-05 06:05 PM |
#206 |
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....shittily ? Is that really a word ? I hear ya though !! |
Wise Doubter |
Nov-09-05 11:22 AM |
#193 |
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Yes, I made it up. You actually looked it up? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 06:23 PM |
#207 |
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....shittily ? Is that really a word ? I hear ya though !! |
Wise Doubter |
Nov-09-05 11:22 AM |
#194 |
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Sorry, (a) is a definition |
Walt Starr |
Nov-09-05 09:05 AM |
#141 |
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It defines marriage in (a) and ... |
Mr_Jefferson_24 |
Nov-09-05 12:56 AM |
#96 |
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Or hell, all they had to do was look at the wording as it was used |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 01:01 AM |
#100 |
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Yes, they thought they were going after.. |
ananda |
Nov-09-05 07:05 AM |
#115 |
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(b) doesn't say anything about only homosexual couples, does it? |
terrya |
Nov-09-05 08:11 AM |
#123 |
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No. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 08:59 AM |
#134 |
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Only a man and woman can get married, but Texas doesn't recognize marriage |
LSdemocrat |
Nov-09-05 08:51 AM |
#125 |
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according to this, I'm no longer married.... |
GloriaSmith |
Nov-09-05 08:58 AM |
#133 |
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Part A question. |
alfredo |
Nov-09-05 09:01 AM |
#137 |
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Here's my new law.... |
obreaslan |
Nov-09-05 09:18 AM |
#156 |
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ROFL! You nailed it, thanks! |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:18 AM |
#157 |
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Actually, this only makes STRAIGHT marriage illegal, doesn't it? |
IanDB1 |
Nov-09-05 09:24 AM |
#164 |
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The problem is, two men can't marry in Texas in the first place. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:43 AM |
#173 |
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Reflexive Property of Equality |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-09-05 09:51 AM |
#179 |
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That was great. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:53 AM |
#180 |
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hey, sometimes my math mind does something productive n/t |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-09-05 10:06 AM |
#187 |
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OMG |
wryter2000 |
Nov-09-05 11:12 AM |
#191 |
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so they didn`t change the wording! |
madrchsod |
Nov-08-05 11:45 PM |
#6 |
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That's the official wording that will be adopted into the |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:46 PM |
#7 |
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only in Texas, huh? |
twominuteshate |
Nov-08-05 11:50 PM |
#17 |
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Well, they're shooting for having 69 constitutional amendments |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:54 PM |
#25 |
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Court challenge is immediate! |
Zan_of_Texas |
Nov-08-05 11:54 PM |
#26 |
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And in 2004, Dallas County voted in a Hispanic openly lesbian |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:57 PM |
#34 |
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Lesbian mayor in my tiny rural county |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Nov-09-05 12:43 AM |
#90 |
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no, no, no! please leave it on the books! |
NuttyFluffers |
Nov-09-05 12:52 AM |
#94 |
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HAHA! Tonight's been good! |
Raiden |
Nov-08-05 11:49 PM |
#13 |
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I don't know what state they were married in. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:50 PM |
#16 |
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Wouldn't that be great, if it undoes all marriage. I hope so...I hope |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-08-05 11:55 PM |
#29 |
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Don't you love karma |
FreedomAngel82 |
Nov-08-05 11:52 PM |
#21 |
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Hyuck, hyuck....we Texans are a bunch of idiots. |
cat_girl25 |
Nov-08-05 11:51 PM |
#19 |
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Welcome to Dumbfuckistan, Y'all! |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:52 PM |
#22 |
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It maintains our image as stupid Texans, right? nm |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-08-05 11:56 PM |
#30 |
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somebody should take another look at the Ohio one that passed last year |
Algorem |
Nov-09-05 12:05 AM |
#47 |
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How was it worded? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:07 AM |
#50 |
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Article XV Section 11. Only a union between one man and one woman may be a |
Algorem |
Nov-09-05 12:14 AM |
#60 |
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Sounds fairly tight to me. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:16 AM |
#63 |
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so all they had to do is copy it down and use it there?somebody did a |
Algorem |
Nov-09-05 12:23 AM |
#77 |
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You know, the Rude Pundit would say they were getting off |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-08-05 11:53 PM |
#24 |
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But you know the real reason the republicans don't want gay marriage? |
cat_girl25 |
Nov-08-05 11:57 PM |
#35 |
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Personally, I think some of them DO want some of that. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:01 AM |
#42 |
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It really is amazing isn't it? |
FreedomAngel82 |
Nov-09-05 12:16 AM |
#64 |
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Wouldn't that just be perfect! |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Nov-08-05 11:55 PM |
#28 |
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Just saved a lot of hetero couples wanting to get divorced a LOT |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:02 AM |
#44 |
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Do you realize what this could do to our population? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Nov-09-05 12:08 AM |
#51 |
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Hmmm, that's true. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:09 AM |
#55 |
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Before you know it we'll be the most populated state in the US |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Nov-09-05 12:20 AM |
#73 |
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Actually, this has been called |
Texas_Kat |
Nov-09-05 01:15 AM |
#102 |
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This might be the basis for a court challenge |
Robert Cooper |
Nov-09-05 05:30 AM |
#114 |
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RUH-ROH! |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 08:08 AM |
#121 |
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I'll ahve to go read it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-08-05 11:57 PM |
#33 |
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Here it is. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:04 AM |
#46 |
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Does this mean no Texas divorces? |
Deb |
Nov-08-05 11:58 PM |
#37 |
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How can you get divorced if the state dissolved your marriage? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:00 AM |
#40 |
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happy non aniversary? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-05 12:02 AM |
#43 |
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Um, thanks? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:03 AM |
#45 |
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Yep, |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-05 12:05 AM |
#48 |
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Sigh. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:07 AM |
#49 |
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RLOL |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-05 12:08 AM |
#52 |
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And it didn't cost either of you a dime! |
cynatnite |
Nov-09-05 12:08 AM |
#53 |
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oh god, whoever wrote that did not get it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-05 12:16 AM |
#62 |
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yes! taken literally, it could indeed be read as a ban on divorce |
NorthernSpy |
Nov-09-05 12:09 AM |
#54 |
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oops -- meant to say it appears to outlaw *remarriage* after divorce |
NorthernSpy |
Nov-09-05 01:00 AM |
#98 |
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Marry in haste, repeal at leisure? |
No Exit |
Nov-08-05 11:58 PM |
#38 |
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I couldn't find this on Kos. Do you have a link? |
DeepModem Mom |
Nov-09-05 12:09 AM |
#56 |
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No link needed. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:11 AM |
#57 |
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Thanks! |
DeepModem Mom |
Nov-09-05 12:16 AM |
#65 |
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Can anything which leads to less Texans really be all bad ? |
Spinzonner |
Nov-09-05 12:12 AM |
#58 |
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Because you can't reproduce unless you're married? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:17 AM |
#66 |
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Well it would discourage a fair number |
Spinzonner |
Nov-09-05 01:01 AM |
#99 |
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Extremely bad statutory drafting. Legal arguments will be made |
Lex |
Nov-09-05 12:12 AM |
#59 |
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What about current marriages? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:18 AM |
#68 |
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I was focused on the "create" part of the sentence. |
Lex |
Nov-09-05 12:22 AM |
#76 |
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Right. People have a case here don't they? It seems that this |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-09-05 12:18 AM |
#69 |
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Lord knows I don't want to help the KKK-aligned asshole |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:15 AM |
#61 |
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Damn, Oklahoma is pretty freaking specific, aren't they? |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:19 AM |
#70 |
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Oklahoma is specific, but open to challenge |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 08:50 AM |
#124 |
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Ooo good one! |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:01 AM |
#138 |
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Benefits of being an anthropologist! |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 09:31 AM |
#168 |
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Does anybody know yet |
FreedomAngel82 |
Nov-09-05 12:20 AM |
#72 |
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I don't know, but I bet you could just go to the website for the |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:21 AM |
#75 |
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Here: |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:23 AM |
#78 |
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Check out Ohio! They go above and beyond!! #@!#!! |
bluedawg12 |
Nov-09-05 09:06 AM |
#143 |
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Oh this is funny... |
Sgent |
Nov-09-05 12:17 AM |
#67 |
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You mean you cannot remarry in Texas? |
DearAbby |
Nov-09-05 12:27 AM |
#83 |
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Nope |
Sgent |
Nov-09-05 12:37 AM |
#87 |
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Yep, what he said. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:40 AM |
#88 |
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Here's the idiot who wrote this: |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:32 AM |
#85 |
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LOL, I just thought of something. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:41 AM |
#89 |
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Better that |
Sgent |
Nov-09-05 12:49 AM |
#91 |
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I tend to agree with that. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 12:51 AM |
#93 |
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We should alert Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann |
lakemonster11 |
Nov-09-05 12:58 AM |
#97 |
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As a caller to Malloy pointed out, this is great for business owners |
ticapnews |
Nov-09-05 01:07 AM |
#101 |
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Here we have PROOF that homosexuality RUINS HETERO MARRIAGE! |
Nothing Without Hope |
Nov-09-05 01:16 AM |
#103 |
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Stupid ass homophobes. So typical. |
Hissyspit |
Nov-09-05 01:49 AM |
#104 |
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It's clear. |
Justice Is Comin |
Nov-09-05 02:04 AM |
#105 |
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ROFLMAO nm |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-09-05 02:26 AM |
#107 |
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now I am not married anymore! |
fleabert |
Nov-09-05 02:07 AM |
#106 |
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Me either damn. n.t |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-09-05 02:27 AM |
#108 |
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look on the bright side |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-05 02:28 AM |
#109 |
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LOL Funny nm |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-09-05 02:29 AM |
#110 |
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No SHIT. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 08:10 AM |
#122 |
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They just officially crowned themselves all as bastards! |
calipendence |
Nov-09-05 02:30 AM |
#111 |
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Texas is just trying corner the singles market |
nolabels |
Nov-09-05 07:40 AM |
#119 |
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i am still in an ugly dazed, ranting to myself world. help me please |
seabeyond |
Nov-09-05 08:53 AM |
#126 |
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Ok |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:06 AM |
#142 |
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My wife and I were married in Texas, but now live |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 08:53 AM |
#127 |
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Somebody needs to tell eHarmony |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 08:55 AM |
#129 |
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So I suppose that these idiots really don't care |
MadHound |
Nov-09-05 08:55 AM |
#130 |
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Say I get married in Mississippi (as if there's a large pool of potential |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 08:56 AM |
#131 |
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You are correct on the first part |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 09:01 AM |
#136 |
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Well, I married there and divorced there. |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:03 AM |
#139 |
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OK, OK, gee I have to do a *little* work between DU postings! |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 09:09 AM |
#145 |
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Well, fatblossom! |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:10 AM |
#148 |
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I think it applies to current and future unions. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:13 AM |
#151 |
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Woohooo! I'm going to have to have a cocktail at 9:30 AM to celebrate! |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:17 AM |
#155 |
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Contact Glen Maxey in Texas. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:20 AM |
#160 |
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I'll leave the test of that law for a Texas resident. |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:23 AM |
#161 |
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Your marriage is simply no longer recognized in Texas. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:12 AM |
#149 |
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Maybe several other southern states will just plagiarize the Texas... |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:14 AM |
#152 |
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OK good, I'm still married then |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 09:15 AM |
#154 |
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LOL |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:24 AM |
#163 |
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If you got married in Mississippi and move to a state where |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:10 AM |
#147 |
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Well that is just too cool, isn't it? |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:12 AM |
#150 |
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Now, some employer needs to cancel spousal benefits for all employees |
IanDB1 |
Nov-09-05 09:15 AM |
#153 |
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That really is what they deserve |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 09:18 AM |
#158 |
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Amen...test the limits of this law. |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:19 AM |
#159 |
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Well, it would really hurt way more people than that |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:23 AM |
#162 |
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Exactly! Yes, there will be many legal wars. |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:25 AM |
#166 |
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Of course we don't really mean we want to hurt people like you |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 09:34 AM |
#170 |
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But the millions of marriages just annuled by this law... |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:36 AM |
#171 |
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They can't just "change the wording" on a Constitutional Amendment |
IanDB1 |
Nov-09-05 09:39 AM |
#172 |
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Exactly. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:45 AM |
#174 |
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True, I didn't think of that |
Dr. Death |
Nov-09-05 10:03 AM |
#186 |
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Or every one can go to Vegas and get married. Their marriages |
Vincardog |
Nov-09-05 09:42 PM |
#210 |
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"But taking people's rights away is WRONG!!" |
IanDB1 |
Nov-09-05 09:33 AM |
#169 |
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If gay marriage is NOT SIMILAR to 1M1W, then gay marriage is LEGAL. |
Festivito |
Nov-09-05 09:28 AM |
#167 |
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Hmm, I'm not really sure the wording goes as far as to support that |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:47 AM |
#175 |
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True... |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:50 AM |
#178 |
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Well, to be clear: |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:56 AM |
#183 |
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Rather than superfluous, it defines what cannot be recognized. |
Festivito |
Nov-09-05 03:33 PM |
#201 |
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What a funny exercise in logic. |
Festivito |
Nov-09-05 03:12 PM |
#200 |
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Hmm, I see what you are saying now. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 06:26 PM |
#208 |
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Read this excellent article on the topic: A Texas-sized const'l mistake |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:47 AM |
#176 |
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Exactly. Kinda hard to get divorced when the state just dissolved your |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 09:48 AM |
#177 |
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LOL...they'll have to take down the old shingle and put up a new one... |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 09:53 AM |
#181 |
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Yep, no new ones can be CREATED. |
Bouncy Ball |
Nov-09-05 10:00 AM |
#185 |
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Might oughta plan it in Aruba, instead--and stay there. |
Maddy McCall |
Nov-09-05 10:22 AM |
#188 |
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Fastest way to end a bad law is STRICK ENFORCEMENT ! LoL ! |
EVDebs |
Nov-09-05 10:52 AM |
#189 |
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If the state cannot recognize marriage, |
troubleinwinter |
Nov-09-05 10:59 AM |
#190 |
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So it removes any legal recognition of marriage... |
drm604 |
Nov-09-05 12:31 PM |
#196 |
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I was thinking the same thing |
Shadoobie |
Nov-09-05 01:51 PM |
#197 |
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Could this mean marriage is over in Texas? |
Xenotime |
Nov-09-05 02:42 PM |
#199 |