| 119. Corporations should. And the government. |
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Which means some of our tax dollars, yes.
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| -Should landowners have to pay a tax to the Indian tribe that lived there? |
bob_weaver |
Nov-07-05 11:02 AM |
#0 |
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No, what I think they ought to do is GIVE IT BACK |
mtnester |
Nov-07-05 11:03 AM |
#1 |
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I disagree |
sui generis |
Nov-07-05 11:11 AM |
#5 |
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Have you given back yours? |
Wcross |
Nov-07-05 12:25 PM |
#27 |
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Better know my heritage better before you go there |
mtnester |
Nov-07-05 12:50 PM |
#30 |
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Why is that? |
Wcross |
Nov-07-05 01:23 PM |
#32 |
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Your opinion is one thing, and yours to have |
mtnester |
Nov-07-05 03:14 PM |
#48 |
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Do you mean "throw" something at you? |
Wcross |
Nov-07-05 04:39 PM |
#54 |
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Again, snark away |
mtnester |
Nov-07-05 04:41 PM |
#55 |
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What's yer point, Wcross, other than to stir up crap? |
NVMojo |
Nov-07-05 07:08 PM |
#66 |
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Yes, I assume that is what is going on...I have my ways of handling that |
mtnester |
Nov-07-05 07:25 PM |
#69 |
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You assume what is going on? Clue me in. |
Wcross |
Nov-07-05 07:59 PM |
#73 |
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I think my point is clear. |
Wcross |
Nov-08-05 07:05 PM |
#120 |
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Why |
Toots |
Nov-08-05 08:29 AM |
#88 |
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OK, who ya gonna give it to? |
TX-RAT |
Nov-07-05 01:24 PM |
#33 |
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I don't know...it is simply wishful thinking on my part |
mtnester |
Nov-07-05 03:16 PM |
#49 |
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we're not "caretakers", we are residents. |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-07-05 11:41 PM |
#74 |
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give it back? |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-07-05 06:05 PM |
#62 |
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If you read my post 49 DIRECTLY above you at this point |
mtnester |
Nov-07-05 07:24 PM |
#68 |
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People can BUY my land, no problem. If the price is right. |
mtpWriter |
Nov-07-05 11:43 PM |
#75 |
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there are a lot of tribes completely wiped out |
barb162 |
Nov-08-05 10:12 PM |
#135 |
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sure, if they reimburse white europeans for the twin gifts |
afdip |
Nov-07-05 11:05 AM |
#2 |
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i think, |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 02:45 PM |
#40 |
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okay, we'll call it even . . . . especially if you consider the caribe's |
afdip |
Nov-07-05 03:20 PM |
#50 |
| -
we gave out Syphillis?... |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 03:28 PM |
#52 |
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nope, the caribe's gave it to the crew on columbus' 1st voyage |
afdip |
Nov-07-05 04:00 PM |
#53 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-08-05 07:47 AM |
#84 |
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actually, it is more likely that pre-columbus-era bones in europe |
afdip |
Nov-08-05 08:59 AM |
#90 |
| -
evidence of syphilis was found in bones in greece. |
xchrom |
Nov-08-05 06:06 PM |
#110 |
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you're certainly welcome to your opinion, but most epidemiologists |
afdip |
Nov-09-05 09:25 AM |
#146 |
| -
check this out... |
xchrom |
Nov-09-05 09:31 AM |
#147 |
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you are one sad poster ...with no knowledge of American history |
NVMojo |
Nov-07-05 07:10 PM |
#67 |
| -
what? did i miss something? |
petersond |
Nov-08-05 12:54 AM |
#78 |
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No, of course not. |
Burning Water |
Nov-07-05 11:05 AM |
#3 |
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I had a knock down drag out with a repuke last week |
liberal N proud |
Nov-07-05 11:10 AM |
#4 |
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So |
Debau2005 |
Nov-07-05 11:33 AM |
#8 |
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If it was a republican government? he would probably think it was |
liberal N proud |
Nov-07-05 11:45 AM |
#13 |
| -
wait |
pitohui |
Nov-07-05 12:15 PM |
#23 |
| -
perhaps you ought to read the history of the modern state of israel |
niyad |
Nov-07-05 12:18 PM |
#24 |
| -
al-Nakba |
manic expression |
Nov-08-05 05:41 PM |
#104 |
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i have to disagree- |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-07-05 06:12 PM |
#63 |
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:) |
petersond |
Nov-08-05 01:04 AM |
#79 |
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I'd rather owe it to you for the rest of my life... |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-08-05 02:38 AM |
#81 |
| -
Yes, blood is hard to wash out... |
petersond |
Nov-08-05 02:12 PM |
#91 |
| -
those treaties and $5.25 will gat you a cup of coffee at starbucks. |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-08-05 05:30 PM |
#103 |
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Excuse me, |
manic expression |
Nov-08-05 05:53 PM |
#106 |
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the time frame being discussed WAS a "century or two" ago. |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-09-05 07:34 AM |
#145 |
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Exactly |
manic expression |
Nov-09-05 07:58 PM |
#173 |
| -
and what exactly do you consider to be "the right thing" ? |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-09-05 10:24 PM |
#174 |
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The right thing |
manic expression |
Nov-10-05 09:41 AM |
#177 |
| -
re: might makes right- |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-10-05 01:12 PM |
#180 |
| -
So them |
petersond |
Nov-10-05 01:43 PM |
#183 |
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after you look up the word "prejudge" in that new dictionary- |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-10-05 01:58 PM |
#184 |
| -
Okay i will type really slow also...:) |
petersond |
Nov-10-05 02:12 PM |
#186 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-08-05 09:16 PM |
#128 |
| -
Sorry, it was probably me.... |
petersond |
Nov-10-05 10:20 PM |
#187 |
| -
handouts!?! bwahahahaha! |
xchrom |
Nov-09-05 09:34 AM |
#148 |
| -
not by me. |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-09-05 05:15 PM |
#170 |
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Actgually, there is NO SUCH THING as Native Americans. |
Village Idiot |
Nov-07-05 11:32 AM |
#6 |
| -
Whites are genetically superior to Native Americans? What? And what does |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-07-05 11:45 AM |
#12 |
| -
Actually, he's talking (badly) about genetic resources: plants, animals... |
JHB |
Nov-07-05 12:10 PM |
#19 |
| -
Ok.. Thanks for the clarification. That's a rather different point than |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-07-05 12:14 PM |
#22 |
| -
Yeah but there was "intelligent design" behind all that stuff |
davepc |
Nov-07-05 04:49 PM |
#56 |
| -
no, it's much more darwinistic |
northzax |
Nov-10-05 01:15 PM |
#181 |
| -
Jared Diamond has a very myopic view of history |
400Years |
Nov-07-05 12:20 PM |
#25 |
| -
genetically superior?... |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 02:47 PM |
#41 |
| -
Bad choice of words- |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-10-05 08:37 AM |
#175 |
| -
Yeah, i saw that.... |
petersond |
Nov-10-05 10:28 PM |
#188 |
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I commend you on choosing a username that describes you SO well |
entanglement |
Nov-08-05 02:17 AM |
#80 |
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What an apt name |
manic expression |
Nov-08-05 06:00 PM |
#109 |
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SUPERIOR?!?!? |
VPStoltz |
Nov-08-05 11:52 PM |
#142 |
| -
If people have been around for 3 million years |
Yupster |
Nov-10-05 10:39 PM |
#190 |
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they may have been here earlier, but did they take land from anyone? |
lady of texas |
Nov-11-05 12:38 PM |
#194 |
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the land that america sits on -- would otherwise be their |
xchrom |
Nov-07-05 11:32 AM |
#7 |
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Stupid Idea |
dbackjon |
Nov-07-05 11:35 AM |
#9 |
| -
Very true |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-07-05 11:47 AM |
#14 |
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i think first nations people would take a radically different view |
xchrom |
Nov-07-05 11:59 AM |
#15 |
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Not me. I'm Irish. |
Touchdown |
Nov-07-05 12:32 PM |
#28 |
| -
even the poorest irish had it better than first nations people. |
xchrom |
Nov-08-05 07:16 AM |
#82 |
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My heart bleeds. |
Touchdown |
Nov-08-05 08:56 AM |
#89 |
| -
the reneged treaties are still there -- for every one to see. |
xchrom |
Nov-08-05 06:15 PM |
#116 |
| -
I didn't steal anything. |
Touchdown |
Nov-08-05 09:42 PM |
#133 |
| -
if your going to spout republican/libertarian party line |
xchrom |
Nov-09-05 09:44 AM |
#149 |
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Oh' I get it. Anybody who disputes you is a Repug. |
Touchdown |
Nov-09-05 10:34 AM |
#151 |
| -
Okay brother.... |
petersond |
Nov-09-05 02:37 PM |
#156 |
| -
You're talking to a gay man here. |
Touchdown |
Nov-09-05 03:02 PM |
#159 |
| -
a gay man!!! Lets unite our powers! |
petersond |
Nov-09-05 03:57 PM |
#162 |
| -
Another little thing.... |
petersond |
Nov-11-05 11:59 AM |
#192 |
| -
your government created the responsibility |
xchrom |
Nov-09-05 02:49 PM |
#158 |
| -
Answer my question. |
Touchdown |
Nov-09-05 03:09 PM |
#160 |
| -
In short, its all ready that way.... |
petersond |
Nov-09-05 04:08 PM |
#163 |
| -
Actually I wanted x-chrom to answer that. |
Touchdown |
Nov-09-05 04:31 PM |
#166 |
| -
Oh...sorry... |
petersond |
Nov-09-05 04:58 PM |
#169 |
| -
oh please -- nobody is ''long dead'' in this case |
xchrom |
Nov-09-05 06:32 PM |
#172 |
| -
Nope. Not an answer. |
Touchdown |
Nov-10-05 09:35 AM |
#176 |
| -
you are laughable -- |
xchrom |
Nov-10-05 10:31 AM |
#178 |
| -
And you're not answering the question. |
Touchdown |
Nov-10-05 10:35 AM |
#179 |
| -
Some Irish call it Celtic descent, to separate themselves from the Euros! |
MADem |
Nov-09-05 04:25 PM |
#164 |
| -
Sounds good. I'll use that. |
Touchdown |
Nov-09-05 04:51 PM |
#168 |
| -
"We didn't obliterate them as a people"... |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 02:59 PM |
#44 |
| -
I've got news for you... |
youthere |
Nov-07-05 05:55 PM |
#61 |
| -
Look at the ground you are standing on |
manic expression |
Nov-08-05 06:09 PM |
#112 |
| -
Yes, very true. |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 02:33 PM |
#37 |
| -
Wow |
manic expression |
Nov-08-05 06:07 PM |
#111 |
| -
But then, shouldn't that tribe pay it to the other tribe that they kicked. |
Silverhair |
Nov-07-05 11:42 AM |
#10 |
| -
To take it further, let's incarcerate all the... |
Touchdown |
Nov-07-05 12:36 PM |
#29 |
| -
yes, damn them! |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 02:53 PM |
#43 |
| -
How far do you go back? You go back legally to the UN Charter |
Mairead |
Nov-07-05 03:02 PM |
#45 |
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No. n/t |
Walt Starr |
Nov-07-05 11:43 AM |
#11 |
| -
They are getting it back |
Semi_subversive |
Nov-07-05 12:00 PM |
#16 |
| -
Silly idea. |
igil |
Nov-07-05 12:09 PM |
#17 |
| -
Shall will hold children responsible for the crimes of their parents? |
izzybeans |
Nov-07-05 12:10 PM |
#18 |
| -
open your mind... we do EXACTLY that |
Bluerthanblue |
Nov-08-05 11:38 PM |
#141 |
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no be a man & go over to the casino & pay your dues in person! |
pitohui |
Nov-07-05 12:13 PM |
#20 |
| -
The easy answer |
H2O Man |
Nov-07-05 12:14 PM |
#21 |
| -
There it is. |
ismnotwasm |
Nov-07-05 07:43 PM |
#72 |
| -
Not necessarily |
Loonman |
Nov-07-05 12:21 PM |
#26 |
| -
Really stupid, bad idea |
slackmaster |
Nov-07-05 12:53 PM |
#31 |
| -
I'm in favor of some kind of reparation to Native and African |
Cleita |
Nov-07-05 01:30 PM |
#34 |
| -
Might i suggest you pay whomever, whatever you think is fare. |
TX-RAT |
Nov-07-05 01:57 PM |
#35 |
| -
Fair, not fare |
RebelOne |
Nov-07-05 07:25 PM |
#70 |
| -
"we"? I didn't do anything to anybody. |
Wcross |
Nov-07-05 02:07 PM |
#36 |
| -
No you didn't do anything... |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 02:41 PM |
#38 |
| -
damn it... |
petersond |
Nov-09-05 02:49 PM |
#157 |
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You as an individual didn't, but your nation did and |
Cleita |
Nov-07-05 05:05 PM |
#59 |
| -
My great grandmother was Cherokee. |
mtpWriter |
Nov-07-05 11:46 PM |
#76 |
| -
Sensitivity has nothing to do with. |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 02:51 PM |
#93 |
| -
You keep using terms like |
mtpWriter |
Nov-08-05 03:24 PM |
#94 |
| -
Yes, but your nation did, and as much as you didn't do this |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 03:34 PM |
#97 |
| -
Not clear on this statement... |
mtpWriter |
Nov-08-05 04:30 PM |
#100 |
| -
True, but most people object to this because |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 04:43 PM |
#101 |
| -
This is never going to happen. |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-08-05 05:59 PM |
#107 |
| -
This is not to feel good. |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 06:12 PM |
#115 |
| -
Again, it will never happen, but let me ask.... |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-08-05 07:30 PM |
#121 |
| -
On another post I recommended that the money be put |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 08:19 PM |
#125 |
| -
Well, here's a start. |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-08-05 09:21 PM |
#129 |
| -
That's a good website and I hope it prospers. |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 09:29 PM |
#130 |
| -
I see. |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-08-05 09:32 PM |
#131 |
| -
What I see is that you want people to beg for charity |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 11:08 PM |
#139 |
| -
Oh, well. That was interesting for a while. |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-09-05 12:01 AM |
#143 |
| -
Quite honestly I was going to give you an longer and |
Cleita |
Nov-09-05 12:15 AM |
#144 |
| -
Wow, you know at LEAST 20 whole Indian people . . . |
petersond |
Nov-08-05 08:58 PM |
#127 |
| -
Accountability |
sandnsea |
Nov-08-05 05:52 PM |
#105 |
| -
That's kind of my point. |
Cleita |
Nov-08-05 07:30 PM |
#122 |
| -
I agree completely |
sandnsea |
Nov-08-05 08:55 PM |
#126 |
| -
Yes, you are right. |
petersond |
Nov-08-05 10:49 PM |
#136 |
| -
No, not unless |
petersond |
Nov-07-05 02:43 PM |
#39 |
| -
Course not... |
SteppingRazor |
Nov-07-05 02:49 PM |
#42 |
| -
It doesn't end it's the stuff the clash of civilizations is made of |
HereSince1628 |
Nov-07-05 03:05 PM |
#46 |
| -
no |
TK421 |
Nov-07-05 03:06 PM |
#47 |
| -
And which Indian tribe would that be |
MadHound |
Nov-07-05 03:22 PM |
#51 |
| -
Sure, bring him by my office and we'll work it out. |
Fescue4u |
Nov-07-05 05:00 PM |
#57 |
| -
Should that tribe pay taxes to the tribe before them? |
Fight_n_back |
Nov-07-05 05:01 PM |
#58 |
| -
No. I didn't steal anything. |
MrSlayer |
Nov-07-05 05:45 PM |
#60 |
| -
Do you live in America? |
manic expression |
Nov-08-05 06:20 PM |
#117 |
| -
Is there a map we can check? n/t |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-08-05 07:40 PM |
#124 |
| -
of course not- and nothing was "stolen". |
MarsThe Cat |
Nov-07-05 06:15 PM |
#64 |
| -
well, let's put it this way: if we were talking about paying white people |
noiretblu |
Nov-07-05 06:39 PM |
#65 |
| -
I will be for this when... |
Touchdown |
Nov-08-05 10:05 PM |
#134 |
| -
oh please |
noiretblu |
Nov-09-05 10:52 AM |
#152 |
| -
So this really isn't a principle for you then? |
Touchdown |
Nov-09-05 11:11 AM |
#153 |
| -
the principle applies in america because i am american |
noiretblu |
Nov-09-05 04:49 PM |
#167 |
| -
We should ask the surviving native americans what's fair |
killbotfactory |
Nov-07-05 07:30 PM |
#71 |
| -
Zero. Thanks for asking ;) |
mtpWriter |
Nov-07-05 11:49 PM |
#77 |
| -
I don't ask for much... |
petersond |
Nov-08-05 02:38 PM |
#92 |
| -
for those of you who claim your forbears got here late |
xchrom |
Nov-08-05 07:33 AM |
#83 |
| -
Of course we took land from the Native Americans... |
Squatch |
Nov-08-05 07:56 AM |
#85 |
| -
and treaties held no part in this ''history"? |
xchrom |
Nov-08-05 08:05 AM |
#86 |
| -
So exactly who had it first?, and how long ago? |
TX-RAT |
Nov-08-05 03:32 PM |
#96 |
| -
Salamanca, NY |
baldguy |
Nov-08-05 08:27 AM |
#87 |
| -
Must be a New York state thing. |
ieoeja |
Nov-08-05 04:11 PM |
#99 |
| -
Most of them are dead. |
porphyrian |
Nov-08-05 03:30 PM |
#95 |
| -
I think most of us already do pay taxes |
OnionPatch |
Nov-08-05 04:05 PM |
#98 |
| -
Absolutely NOT. |
Beelzebud |
Nov-08-05 04:44 PM |
#102 |
| -
No. It will not (and should not) ever happen. n/t |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-08-05 06:00 PM |
#108 |
| -
Yes, and Mexicans should pay tribute to the Maya and Aztecs. |
geek tragedy |
Nov-08-05 06:11 PM |
#113 |
| -
Apples and oranges, though |
jaredh |
Nov-09-05 01:07 PM |
#154 |
| -
Okay. How about Spain paying reparations to the Caliphate |
geek tragedy |
Nov-09-05 01:48 PM |
#155 |
| -
Better comparison |
jaredh |
Nov-09-05 04:25 PM |
#165 |
| -
I don't know, what tribes did the native americans steal it from? |
Jose Diablo |
Nov-08-05 06:11 PM |
#114 |
| -
Hell, no! |
LoveOHBlues |
Nov-08-05 06:33 PM |
#118 |
| -
Corporations should. And the government. |
shance |
Nov-08-05 06:41 PM |
#119 |
| -
Corporations do give to Indian charities. |
hiaasenrocks |
Nov-08-05 07:38 PM |
#123 |
| -
Pretty soon, Walmart will be on that list... |
petersond |
Nov-08-05 11:00 PM |
#137 |
| -
The land question |
dcfirefighter |
Nov-08-05 09:39 PM |
#132 |
| -
Only if the Romans and Normans pay me. |
brokensymmetry |
Nov-08-05 11:08 PM |
#138 |
| -
ok, send bill. |
kineneb |
Nov-10-05 10:40 PM |
#191 |
| -
A few words from a man long gone: |
rumpel |
Nov-08-05 11:16 PM |
#140 |
| -
Good article, i love it.... |
petersond |
Nov-09-05 03:22 PM |
#161 |
| -
Damn it.. |
petersond |
Nov-09-05 06:16 PM |
#171 |
| -
No |
shawn703 |
Nov-09-05 10:31 AM |
#150 |
| -
basically all land was stolen from somebody |
northzax |
Nov-10-05 01:16 PM |
#182 |
| -
I was just thinking the same thing. n/t |
Fox Mulder |
Nov-10-05 02:11 PM |
#185 |
| -
Sure. As long as I am then allowed to stop paying $ to the US gov. |
kineneb |
Nov-10-05 10:36 PM |
#189 |
| -
Um...no. While I am of Native American descent... |
Dob Bole |
Nov-11-05 12:33 PM |
#193 |
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