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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:41 AM
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79. We need to fight smarter more than harder.
This adds one more diatribe to a list of Bush admin missteps. Swing voters are cowed and scared and turned off their ears for something too loud to ignore, like indicting Libby.

Smarter is to have a few things the swingers can remember at water coolers, or my favorite, heading off the next CON move.

Like when it comes to Libby ONLY being charged with lying, its confusing, its a busy time in WH, criminalizing politics.


There is a huge crime here.
There is a coverup here.
Someone lied, at least ONE person.
There has been a leaker in the WH for two years.
Bush moves too slowly.
Investigations are needed to push Bush.

Jumping ahead to Bush should resign, no matter how certain we are, alienates people who would support us. We can't afford that.
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  -If Bush** has any dignity, he'll resign and spare the nation the shame. ClassWarrior  Oct-29-05 12:11 PM   #0 
  - Repentance GOP style  occuserpens   Oct-29-05 12:15 PM   #1 
  - That's the way they WANT it to work. Don't let them!!  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 07:14 PM   #99 
  - Well according to Tweety yesterday as * saddled up to the  MidnightWind   Oct-29-05 12:16 PM   #2 
  - Tweety had tucker carlson on to comment  oldtime dfl_er   Oct-29-05 12:19 PM   #5 
  - tweety is scared the wh  zidzi   Oct-30-05 08:49 PM   #104 
  - You're right , of course.  drb   Oct-29-05 12:17 PM   #3 
  - I appreciate your use of language  oldtime dfl_er   Oct-29-05 12:17 PM   #4 
  - Keep hope alive!  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 08:08 PM   #68 
  - The right wing talking point about Clinton is this:  mutley_r_us   Oct-29-05 12:19 PM   #6 
  - Criminalization of Politics  Marc A   Oct-29-05 12:21 PM   #7 
  - That is backfiring bigtime. Everyone who hears that thinks of Delay, Frist  buddysmellgood   Oct-29-05 12:27 PM   #10 
  - I feel offended, why is Galloway in that list??!  hiabrill   Oct-30-05 12:50 PM   #85 
     - DOH! Yes, sorry. I meant Gannon and Abramhoff.  buddysmellgood   Oct-30-05 02:16 PM   #92 
  - Hi Marc A!!  newyawker99   Oct-29-05 05:31 PM   #54 
  - Welcome to DU, Marc!  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 06:42 PM   #64 
  - Which I think is hysterical, btw. Boo-hoo-hoo! Where I come from,  calimary   Oct-30-05 01:23 AM   #73 
  - BushCo.  Neocondriac   Oct-29-05 12:21 PM   #8 
  - You're missing the point again  tavalon   Oct-29-05 04:56 PM   #49 
     - I believe he will resign if Fitz...  hiabrill   Oct-30-05 12:55 PM   #86 
  - And if a frog could fly, he wouldn't bump his rump.  brokensymmetry   Oct-29-05 12:22 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for only bothering to read the title without reading the post...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 12:29 PM   #12 
  - Good advice.  brokensymmetry   Oct-29-05 02:14 PM   #39 
     - Thanks for being a good sport.  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 02:19 PM   #40 
  - And that's not the point n/t  tavalon   Oct-29-05 04:56 PM   #50 
  - Dignified Bush=Oxymoran.  WritingIsMyReligion   Oct-29-05 12:28 PM   #11 
  - Please keep this kicked and nominate it, if you believe...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 12:31 PM   #13 
  - If Cheney and Rove had any honor, they'd resign-- would work too.  Overseas   Oct-31-05 04:26 PM   #112 
     - Excellent corollary. Mix and match as needed.  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 05:19 PM   #117 
  - If he had any dignity, he would have bowed out instead of having  MrsGrumpy   Oct-29-05 12:33 PM   #14 
  - It's Worth A Try, But Frankly, GOP Has NO Shame  Demeter   Oct-29-05 12:33 PM   #15 
  - I'm not talking about the GOOP's shame - I'm talking about the American...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 12:36 PM   #16 
  - Don't Think There's Much of That Either In Red States  Demeter   Oct-29-05 12:42 PM   #19 
     - There doesn't have to be "much" - just "enough."  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 12:44 PM   #20 
        - Oh, I Am Not Advocating Resignation On Our Part  Demeter   Oct-29-05 12:45 PM   #22 
           - Who said "hold your breath?" I'm saying jump in there and help grind!!  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 12:48 PM   #24 
  - But this isn't about winning the hearts and minds of the GOP  tavalon   Oct-29-05 04:58 PM   #51 
  - You have a point, but  NV Whino   Oct-29-05 12:36 PM   #17 
  - What's so sleazeball about calling for Bush**'s resignation?  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 12:40 PM   #18 
     - We've Been Doing That for Years, Now  Demeter   Oct-29-05 12:44 PM   #21 
     - No we haven't. We've wanted it, but we haven't been calling for it...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 12:47 PM   #23 
     - We're talking Granny Smiths and Navels here  NV Whino   Oct-29-05 12:53 PM   #25 
        - So you don't believe Bush** should take responsibility for his crimes?  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 01:33 PM   #32 
           - Even in his orange jumpsuit  NV Whino   Oct-29-05 02:40 PM   #43 
              - So you say if Bush** won't resign there's no value in demanding it. But...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 05:50 PM   #56 
  - well, we all know the answer to THAT question, don't we? n/t  n2doc   Oct-29-05 12:59 PM   #26 
  - You're referring to a 'man' who doesn't believe in taking  MsConduct   Oct-29-05 01:04 PM   #27 
  - Please read the POST, not just the TITLE, before you respond...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 01:07 PM   #28 
  - Once again classless warrior, you are NOT the board police.  MsConduct   Oct-29-05 01:14 PM   #29 
     - You're right. People are totally free to spout uninformed opinions.  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 01:22 PM   #30 
     - You were wrong  tavalon   Oct-29-05 05:03 PM   #53 
        - Thanks for your perspective, tav. I was just frustrated.  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 05:39 PM   #55 
  - That isn't the point of this post  tavalon   Oct-29-05 05:02 PM   #52 
     - I've been here for over a year and have only responded to  MsConduct   Oct-29-05 06:35 PM   #63 
     - If I've offended you in the past, I apologize.  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 06:56 PM   #65 
     - Apology accepted. n/t  MsConduct   Oct-30-05 01:38 AM   #76 
     - It didn't  tavalon   Oct-30-05 01:32 AM   #75 
     - I think we should use bringing shame to America  ninkasi   Oct-31-05 05:56 PM   #121 
        - Yes, spread the blame around - the meme still fits...  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 08:20 PM   #122 
  - the American people should be outraged about this mess  bluedog   Oct-29-05 01:31 PM   #31 
  - I agree totally. Which is why we need to speed the erosion of his...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 01:34 PM   #33 
  - A lot of people just simply aren't aware  journalist3072   Oct-29-05 08:50 PM   #70 
     - A lot of people just plain don't care until it directly effects them. nt  rhett o rick   Oct-31-05 04:12 PM   #110 
        - You hit the nail on the head..  journalist3072   Oct-31-05 05:52 PM   #119 
  - What reaction would you get if you said this to your RW brother-in-law...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 01:42 PM   #34 
  - I agree with you 100 %  bigbrother05   Oct-29-05 01:48 PM   #35 
  - Excellent points. Please nominate the thread.  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 01:50 PM   #36 
     - I don't think it's game playing either  bigbrother05   Oct-29-05 02:07 PM   #37 
  - That's the truth. FRAMING MATTERS. Recommended. n.t  texpatriot2004   Oct-29-05 02:07 PM   #38 
  - Utterly. FRAMING MATTERS - as though our very LIVES depended on it.  calimary   Oct-30-05 03:20 PM   #94 
  - Kick nm  texpatriot2004   Oct-29-05 02:28 PM   #41 
  - As they say in Houston - KIKK...  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 10:23 PM   #123 
  - Kicking  RetroLounge   Oct-29-05 02:36 PM   #42 
  - Kicking again.  calimary   Oct-30-05 01:31 AM   #74 
     - And once more...  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 11:25 AM   #78 
  - I agree with you  MissWaverly   Oct-29-05 02:45 PM   #44 
  - nah...he's a cockroach...and ya'll have to stomp them out.  oregonindy   Oct-29-05 02:47 PM   #45 
  - It would be very helpful if you read the post before you comment...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 07:40 PM   #67 
  - VERY powerful talking point. Read the whole post: it isn't about  bleever   Oct-29-05 03:36 PM   #46 
  - Damned Frickin' Straight!  calimary   Oct-30-05 01:08 PM   #87 
     - Damn, that was good. It's not who "wins" the argument that counts;  bleever   Oct-30-05 03:50 PM   #96 
     - Excellent, Mar.  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 06:01 PM   #97 
  - I have also written about "The Resignation Frame" (different use)  GuvWurld   Oct-29-05 03:39 PM   #47 
  - Interesting perspective. I guess Lakoff feels, like I do...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 07:09 PM   #66 
  - Recommended. The meme of resignation needs to be pushed because  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-29-05 04:49 PM   #48 
  - LOL - Love the cartoon!  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 06:11 PM   #59 
  - Oh, Dear God what a SENSATIONAL cartoon!  calimary   Oct-30-05 01:10 PM   #88 
  - Don't count on it, he's as stubborn as he is stupid.  spanone   Oct-29-05 05:57 PM   #57 
  - Might I very kindly suggest you read the post before you comment...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 06:01 PM   #58 
  - Unless the Dems retake the House in 2006  peace frog   Oct-29-05 06:13 PM   #60 
  - Might I very kindly suggest you read the post before you comment...  ClassWarrior   Oct-29-05 06:20 PM   #61 
     - Sure, since you put it so nicely  peace frog   Oct-29-05 06:22 PM   #62 
  - When Bush talked about  journalist3072   Oct-29-05 08:11 PM   #69 
  - Fine, but Dems don't have a meme distribution machine.  Festivito   Oct-29-05 09:03 PM   #71 
  - True, but that's reason to fight harder.  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 10:00 AM   #77 
  - We need to fight smarter more than harder.  Festivito   Oct-30-05 11:41 AM   #79 
     - Agreed. Thanks for putting that finer point on it.  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 11:55 AM   #80 
  - OH YES THEY DO. It's US. And if the traditional, conventional,  calimary   Oct-30-05 01:22 PM   #89 
     - I like your attitude. It is war. Pitchforks and torches are fine. /nt  Festivito   Oct-30-05 03:07 PM   #93 
  - Not that I can see i t, but, incredibly, others DO. I woke up this morning  calimary   Oct-30-05 01:21 AM   #72 
  - Sunday morning kick.  bleever   Oct-30-05 12:03 PM   #81 
  - Sorta like a strong, hot cup of coffee??  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 07:51 PM   #100 
  - This is great. Repeat after me...(doesn't even begin to compare w/ a BJ!)  WiseButAngrySara   Oct-30-05 12:12 PM   #82 
  - If Bush** has any dignity at all, he'll resign now...  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 06:28 PM   #98 
  - Kicking again. Already recommended.  calimary   Oct-30-05 12:46 PM   #83 
  - Dignity? You want dignity? I got yer dignity, right here:  calimary   Oct-30-05 03:36 PM   #95 
     - The classic open fly photo!! LOL  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 09:32 PM   #105 
  - ** has no dignity and feels no shame...!!!  hiabrill   Oct-30-05 12:48 PM   #84 
  - This isn't about what Junior** will do. It's about eroding his support...  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 01:45 PM   #90 
     - It's like saying, "C'mon Junior**, prove your 'dignity'"...  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 01:58 PM   #91 
  - He can't even  Little Star   Oct-30-05 07:54 PM   #101 
  - Hey, welcome to DU!  ClassWarrior   Oct-30-05 08:43 PM   #103 
  - I like it  SlavesandBulldozers   Oct-30-05 08:03 PM   #102 
  - kick for the weekday crowd...  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 10:48 AM   #106 
  - Kicked again  LittleClarkie   Oct-31-05 01:50 PM   #107 
     - Say it with me!!  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 04:03 PM   #108 
        - If Bush had any dignity... but he doesn't... and that's the whole point.  LittleClarkie   Oct-31-05 04:05 PM   #109 
  - The people you are aiming that at, won't get it. I appreciate what you  rhett o rick   Oct-31-05 04:20 PM   #111 
  - If the point is to win over the public or undermine his support, may i  rhett o rick   Oct-31-05 04:30 PM   #113 
  - Thanks for another "give up" post!!  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 04:36 PM   #114 
     - What have i said today to indicate that i am for giving up? Damn, i believ  rhett o rick   Oct-31-05 05:42 PM   #118 
        - When did I ever say I was targeting this talking point at Republican...  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 05:54 PM   #120 
  - it's obvious he has no dignity  WI_DEM   Oct-31-05 04:41 PM   #115 
     - Exactly. Ergo, resign. So start passing it on please...  ClassWarrior   Oct-31-05 04:46 PM   #116 

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