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Mon Oct-24-05 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #76 |
| 82. Again, that's why I wanted to |
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know the whole story.
How was this customer humiliated?
Was this an emergency?
Was there no other way for them to get this product?
And what did this customer do in terms of their own responsibility for their health care? Did they go to another pharmacy and take care of their needs?
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| -Target's response to my letter |
graywarrior |
Oct-24-05 12:36 PM |
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hope this is true... |
nickinSTL |
Oct-24-05 12:37 PM |
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A timely and respectful manner? |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 12:38 PM |
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Is this part really true? |
napi21 |
Oct-24-05 12:41 PM |
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Title VII has always protected religion. |
Xithras |
Oct-24-05 01:45 PM |
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This occurs to me... |
jmowreader |
Oct-24-05 04:12 PM |
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Uhh no |
Sgent |
Oct-24-05 05:12 PM |
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I don't see how filling a prescription for contraceptives can violate |
wildeyed |
Oct-24-05 12:43 PM |
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Excellent point! Your analogy clarifies the real issues very well! (nt) |
TwoSparkles |
Oct-24-05 12:46 PM |
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the thinking goes something like this |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:00 PM |
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Emergency contraception is not the same as an abortion |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 01:05 PM |
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emergency contraception (to my knowledge) |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:08 PM |
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Yes, and that is not the same as an abortion |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 01:11 PM |
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to someone who believes that life begins at conception it is |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:13 PM |
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If they're that ignorant about science and medicine |
MountainLaurel |
Oct-24-05 01:23 PM |
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when does life begin? aye? can you definitively answer that question? |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:26 PM |
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Difference: WE don't force OUR morals on THEM. |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-24-05 05:13 PM |
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forcing them to provide the means for a termination |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-25-05 04:13 AM |
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bullshit. No one is forcing them to *use* the pill and no one is |
gkhouston |
Oct-25-05 11:35 AM |
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They are entitled to hold their beliefs |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-24-05 02:27 PM |
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Or Target shouldn't carry the product. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 02:55 PM |
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Not really |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-24-05 08:02 PM |
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So do you support pharmacists who do not want to give bcp's |
electron_blue |
Oct-24-05 03:27 PM |
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Again.. not abortion |
insane_cratic_gal |
Oct-24-05 01:19 PM |
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not what I am saying at all... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:21 PM |
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But does it make it right |
insane_cratic_gal |
Oct-24-05 01:30 PM |
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Fertilized eggs fail to implant all the time |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-24-05 02:30 PM |
#47 |
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I know a pharmacist right now who won't hand out condoms. |
Xithras |
Oct-24-05 01:55 PM |
#41 |
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by giving someone heart meds |
insane_cratic_gal |
Oct-24-05 02:06 PM |
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I'm not commenting on how valid or invalid his religious beliefs may be. |
Xithras |
Oct-24-05 02:22 PM |
#45 |
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Correct, however |
insane_cratic_gal |
Oct-24-05 01:16 PM |
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I can agree on those points...the policy should be made clear up front |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:19 PM |
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It's a legal medical prescription. If a pharmacist "can't" fill it... |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 01:24 PM |
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so, an OB/GYN should stop their profession if they don't wish |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:26 PM |
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If they won't perform a legal medical procedure why would they want to |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 01:30 PM |
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because they might love side of that profession |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:33 PM |
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sorry...it doesn't work that way |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 01:34 PM |
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actually it can work that way |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-24-05 01:36 PM |
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OB/GYN's who refuse |
insane_cratic_gal |
Oct-24-05 01:39 PM |
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The question is |
DefenseLawyer |
Oct-24-05 03:23 PM |
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ahh, but your analogy breaksdown |
northzax |
Oct-24-05 05:13 PM |
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There's the question really. |
DefenseLawyer |
Oct-24-05 05:54 PM |
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I've already stated that it is the responsibility of the pharmacy |
northzax |
Oct-24-05 06:08 PM |
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The bottom line is |
DefenseLawyer |
Oct-24-05 06:26 PM |
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I agree |
gkhouston |
Oct-25-05 11:38 AM |
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and nobody is forcing him to be a pharmacist |
Horse with no Name |
Oct-24-05 01:08 PM |
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So a hindu or jain checker could refuse to ring up a leather belt? |
SnowGoose |
Oct-24-05 01:18 PM |
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Yup, that's corrrect.... this letter is BULL |
LostinVA |
Oct-24-05 01:21 PM |
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No, they couldn't |
Xithras |
Oct-24-05 02:09 PM |
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so why should a pharmacist consider |
gkhouston |
Oct-24-05 03:07 PM |
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That's an interesting question. Should the person stocking shelves.... |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 05:59 PM |
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Missin' the point friend, and I think you're mistaken to boot. |
SnowGoose |
Oct-24-05 04:48 PM |
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dupe |
SnowGoose |
Oct-24-05 04:50 PM |
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I think you are being a little bit too literal. |
wildeyed |
Oct-24-05 05:37 PM |
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or could a mormon work at Dunkin Dognuts?... coffee is forbidden.. |
Bluerthanblue |
Oct-24-05 07:10 PM |
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Well, at least Ms Hanson uses more than one form letter. |
enlightenment |
Oct-24-05 12:45 PM |
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I got the second letter |
DU9598 |
Oct-24-05 12:48 PM |
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Ahha -- that explains it. I just read mine, sighed, and |
enlightenment |
Oct-24-05 01:10 PM |
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MMM, that letter is fudgy. |
MostlyLurks |
Oct-24-05 01:09 PM |
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Planned Parenthood says that Target has refused |
murielm99 |
Oct-24-05 02:54 PM |
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Weasel words. She isn't saying that they will fill the prescription at all |
Nickster |
Oct-24-05 12:52 PM |
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by that wording |
insane_cratic_gal |
Oct-24-05 01:02 PM |
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She doesn't go on to say HOW the reports are |
olafvikingr |
Oct-24-05 12:53 PM |
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Forward her email to PP.... |
CatBoreal |
Oct-24-05 12:57 PM |
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I'd like to know exactly. . . |
kevinbgoode |
Oct-24-05 01:16 PM |
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Target (or any store) |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 01:17 PM |
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They also don't have the "right" to my tax dollar which helps to subsidize |
Nickster |
Oct-24-05 01:25 PM |
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Didn't say they do. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 01:27 PM |
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I don't disagree with you necessarily, but when my tax money goes to |
Nickster |
Oct-24-05 02:06 PM |
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This reminds me of a local case in which |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 02:52 PM |
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Pharmacies are state licensed |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:07 PM |
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It's this part of the letter that concerns me |
graywarrior |
Oct-24-05 02:32 PM |
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And I wonder... is the prescription filled before or after the "guest"... |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 03:33 PM |
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What bothers me is |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:09 PM |
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Just so I'm clear on this... |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 02:59 PM |
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That's a different letter from the one I got |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 03:08 PM |
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What would be the problem with |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 03:30 PM |
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Some towns only have one pharmacy |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 03:57 PM |
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So the customer in this case was |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 04:12 PM |
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But that's a moot point. Taget carries the product. |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 04:17 PM |
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I am saying that Target (or any store) |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 04:23 PM |
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No, this is about whittling away the rights of a woman to have... |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 04:36 PM |
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So Target is out to remove your |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 04:43 PM |
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since your profile is turned off I can only guess but... |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 04:46 PM |
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LOL. Here we go. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 04:50 PM |
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attack your motive? really? |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 05:01 PM |
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I didn't say you did. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:05 PM |
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please read this |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 05:21 PM |
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Okay, I read it. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:25 PM |
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Don't you think that some items will be unavailable |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:29 PM |
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I definitely agree with you. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:34 PM |
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We can require the store to provide it |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:47 PM |
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I guess that would depend on the state. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:50 PM |
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And that is the way it must be approached |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:55 PM |
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Okay so we agree. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:57 PM |
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You are arguing a point that isn't relevant |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-24-05 05:33 PM |
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Again.... |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:39 PM |
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Not your motive |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 05:09 PM |
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Oh, I see. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:13 PM |
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Target - |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 05:27 PM |
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Target may be male owned. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:30 PM |
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You're not discussing this issue |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 05:33 PM |
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I see. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:37 PM |
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Not to me you haven't - |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 05:39 PM |
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This isn't about the consumer. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:43 PM |
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Why should they have to? |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 05:06 PM |
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That's the overlooked issue, IMO. |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 05:09 PM |
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Again, that's why I wanted to |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:09 PM |
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But this is not about one customer, ultimately. |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 05:14 PM |
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Wait a minute. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:15 PM |
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Uh, yeah. That must be it. |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 05:28 PM |
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Well, you tell me. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:44 PM |
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As I 've already said, this is a wider societal issue. |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 05:53 PM |
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There could be. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:55 PM |
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Well, I think that solution still leaves room for women to be victimized. |
Zenlitened |
Oct-24-05 06:40 PM |
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The woman went to a state licensed pharmacy |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:14 PM |
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Target is a private company. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:17 PM |
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It doesn't matter! They have a legal prescription, they are entitled to |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-24-05 05:18 PM |
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A lawyer does have that right. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:20 PM |
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Women have a right to health care |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:23 PM |
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Correct. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:27 PM |
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Right, but the point is, it would be incredibly STUPID of me |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-24-05 05:23 PM |
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Defense attorneys turn down work all the time. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:28 PM |
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What if I was a defense attorney and, on moral principles, |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-24-05 05:33 PM |
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That analogy would be accurate |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:40 PM |
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The difference is, lawyers are more accessible than pharmacies can be. |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-24-05 05:43 PM |
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You and I agree more than we disagree. |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:53 PM |
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Yep. I agree completely. Target cannot advertise that |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-24-05 05:55 PM |
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Agreed. That's pretty much all I'm saying. n/t |
hiaasenrocks |
Oct-24-05 05:58 PM |
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Right, but the point is, it would be incredibly STUPID of me |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-24-05 05:23 PM |
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Not to mention they are practicing medicine without a license. |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:20 PM |
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Defense lawyers refuse clients all the time |
dsc |
Oct-24-05 06:15 PM |
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the "whole story" |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 05:26 PM |
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That's a different letter from the one I got |
mzteris |
Oct-24-05 03:08 PM |
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Damn! I thought you were talking about target letters!!! n/t |
BlueStateBlue |
Oct-24-05 03:34 PM |
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I thought the thread about target letters was about Target |
graywarrior |
Oct-24-05 03:39 PM |
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As a vegetarian, can I work at McDonalds and refuse to serve burgers? |
skipos |
Oct-24-05 04:15 PM |
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sure, you can work the fry machine. |
northzax |
Oct-24-05 05:14 PM |
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Kick ass!!! nt |
skipos |
Oct-24-05 05:41 PM |
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! (nt) |
bigwillq |
Oct-24-05 05:06 PM |
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If you want a better answer |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:17 PM |
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That's a great idea. |
graywarrior |
Oct-24-05 05:25 PM |
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I don't |
yankeedem |
Oct-24-05 05:32 PM |
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Yes, as a matter of fact, it is. |
graywarrior |
Oct-24-05 05:35 PM |
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So basically their policy hasn't changed |
jmm |
Oct-24-05 06:16 PM |
#135 |
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