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Mon Oct-24-05 08:17 PM
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| 135. I can't speak for your pot |
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but "things" are mostly empty space.. but also, and this is implied by the double slit experiment, among other things- the part that isn't "empty space" the "stuff", as it were-- isn't anything remotely resembling what we take for granted as commonsense notions about "stuff". Electrons, for example (although other subatomic particles also tend to get 'smeared out' as per their assosciated probability waves) don't actually have a "location", at least not when you're not looking for one.
Anyway, demonstrating quantum effects at a macroscopic level is a schrodinger's cat of another color, as is making quantum mechanics gel with macroscopic relativity. We shall see. All I know is, in MY life and the lives of certain people I know, I've seen plenty of weird shit manifest -stuff that defies the logic of newtonian "common sense"- and when I press myself for explanations (believe me- no one is a bigger skeptic on this stuff than me. That's why certain experiences carry so much weight in my own mind.. because I was NOT easy to convince) things like quantum interconnectedness, or a non-local basis for consciousness, or a bi-directional or non-linear component to time.. make as much sense as anything.
Really, what I suspect is, that our theories and particularly our crude, primitive primate semantic structures don't come close to being able to describe anything resembling what's "really" going on, not yet at least.
And I don't even smoke pot anymore, so I don't have that as an excuse.
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| -Any DUers who have some psychic ability? Not kidding. |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 05:27 PM |
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Yeah, you just might get some sarcastic responses. |
bryant69 |
Oct-23-05 05:30 PM |
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I lost my Ouija Board Mousepad when we moved. |
elehhhhna |
Oct-23-05 06:47 PM |
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Ouija board mousepad? LOL. Check this out |
ComerPerro |
Oct-24-05 08:03 AM |
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YOU ARE MY HERO ! (And I think I'm the queen of googling, duh) |
elehhhhna |
Oct-24-05 05:48 PM |
#133 |
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I predict Tom of Finland has a little surprise in store for Mr. Delay! |
KzooDem |
Oct-23-05 05:30 PM |
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Ya like that, huh? |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 05:31 PM |
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Go check these groups... |
lildreamer316 |
Oct-23-05 05:33 PM |
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thank you- I've never been to that board. I'll try it. |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 05:39 PM |
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I've had psychic experiences before, including a recent one, but |
Ilsa |
Oct-23-05 05:34 PM |
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I have little control over it either |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-23-05 07:25 PM |
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My beliefs on the Paranormal |
ck4829 |
Oct-23-05 05:34 PM |
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You're right though |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 10:50 PM |
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More likely you'll get abuse |
Terran |
Oct-23-05 05:39 PM |
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Don't paint us with such a wide brush |
jim3775 |
Oct-23-05 05:42 PM |
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15 posts to this point, and no abuse. |
trotsky |
Oct-23-05 05:53 PM |
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I'm not exactly prejudging... |
Terran |
Oct-23-05 06:23 PM |
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it's okay... when one casts a wide net |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 06:53 PM |
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awmm. The answer is, some event that requires martial law. |
PowerToThePeople |
Oct-23-05 05:42 PM |
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Where is Karnak when we need him? |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 05:44 PM |
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well, I don't know about it |
newspeak |
Oct-23-05 05:47 PM |
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fungus |
seabeyond |
Oct-23-05 05:46 PM |
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pure intuition -- i haven't been able yet to get waiste-deep in the story |
nashville_brook |
Oct-23-05 05:50 PM |
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i think you're prolly right on. |
NV Whino |
Oct-23-05 07:28 PM |
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I would definitley say McCain has compromised |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 10:54 PM |
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The government believes in psychics. |
Jara sang |
Oct-23-05 05:50 PM |
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The Government (particularly the DoD) has done insane things |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Oct-23-05 08:26 PM |
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Oh sure |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 10:56 PM |
#66 |
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just for you |
knowbody0 |
Oct-23-05 05:53 PM |
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That is the exquisite Beauty of the IChing |
cryingshame |
Oct-23-05 06:06 PM |
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sigh ;) |
knowbody0 |
Oct-23-05 06:09 PM |
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thank you. |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 06:48 PM |
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hard to say |
knowbody0 |
Oct-23-05 07:02 PM |
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If I may, |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Oct-24-05 04:21 AM |
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care to comment |
knowbody0 |
Oct-24-05 11:59 AM |
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Sure, I'll give it a shot |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Oct-24-05 01:27 PM |
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No. |
muriel_volestrangler |
Oct-23-05 05:55 PM |
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I respectfully disagree |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 06:30 PM |
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"considerabley intelligent" |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-23-05 07:06 PM |
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excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 08:40 PM |
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if you put it in quotes- |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-23-05 09:28 PM |
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oh, brother |
npincus |
Oct-23-05 10:12 PM |
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my thoughts exactly... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-23-05 10:50 PM |
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Yes how hilarious--someone made a spelling error!!! LOL!!! |
newfaceinhell |
Oct-24-05 04:58 AM |
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they made the spelling error talking about intelligence... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 07:35 AM |
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gee... STILL laughing? |
npincus |
Oct-24-05 09:17 AM |
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when people respond to my posts, i prefer to respond back... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 09:33 AM |
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okey doke... |
npincus |
Oct-24-05 09:40 AM |
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says you! |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 09:47 AM |
#104 |
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is this necessary? |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-24-05 09:40 AM |
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just as 'necessary' as your post, i suppose... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 09:46 AM |
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Okay, then... |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-24-05 09:49 AM |
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thanks... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 09:54 AM |
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Oh, sweetie, I didn't give you my permission. |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-24-05 10:24 AM |
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well- you said you wouldn't "stop" me... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 11:07 AM |
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Considerably is a word |
nomatrix |
Oct-24-05 03:10 PM |
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and considerabley isn't... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 04:55 PM |
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Sorry about the apparent condescension |
muriel_volestrangler |
Oct-24-05 04:49 AM |
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I tend |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-24-05 09:47 AM |
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no problem |
npincus |
Oct-24-05 10:36 AM |
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I've seen the future on at least 4 occasions... |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-23-05 07:15 PM |
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Finally, a sane response to this post. |
FM Arouet666 |
Oct-23-05 10:20 PM |
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I don't know, man. I'm pretty skeptical about everything |
impeachdubya |
Oct-23-05 11:12 PM |
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So have I.... |
FM Arouet666 |
Oct-23-05 11:50 PM |
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And I bet you knew it was coming before it arrived |
impeachdubya |
Oct-23-05 11:52 PM |
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weird shit |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 10:03 AM |
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Ah, thank you for telling me what I've seen. |
impeachdubya |
Oct-24-05 01:38 PM |
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wikipedia- now there's a real bastion of legitimate info... |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 02:13 PM |
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Oh, okay. I made up Bell's theorem. Mmmm. |
impeachdubya |
Oct-24-05 04:23 PM |
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i never said that- |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 04:27 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-24-05 04:31 PM |
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o.k. |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 05:04 PM |
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You're right. It's not. |
impeachdubya |
Oct-24-05 05:45 PM |
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but most of the "weird shit" happens at the atomic/sub-atomic level |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 07:14 PM |
#134 |
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I can't speak for your pot |
impeachdubya |
Oct-24-05 08:17 PM |
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You don't know that |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 10:59 PM |
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There was no insult there |
muriel_volestrangler |
Oct-24-05 04:56 AM |
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Sounds like your Mercury is Squared by Pluto, Vole |
SpiralHawk |
Oct-24-05 07:22 AM |
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You can't say... |
demobabe |
Oct-23-05 11:29 PM |
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I can say it with as much confidence as I'd say you are a human |
muriel_volestrangler |
Oct-24-05 04:38 AM |
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Assumption. Opinion. |
demobabe |
Oct-24-05 05:00 AM |
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of course you can't "prove" that something DOESN'T exist- |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-24-05 10:09 AM |
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There you go. |
Zhade |
Oct-24-05 05:37 PM |
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Sometimes |
Disorganized |
Oct-23-05 05:57 PM |
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I can relate to the "need to know basis" as well... |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-23-05 07:21 PM |
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Oh wow |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 11:05 PM |
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Funny thing is, I'm not sure if 9/11 was what I saw. |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-23-05 11:39 PM |
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LOL |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 11:03 PM |
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Here is the problem: |
Straight Shooter |
Oct-23-05 06:12 PM |
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Bush will not go easy |
undergroundpanther |
Oct-23-05 06:12 PM |
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i'm assuming you really mean intuition. not so much clairvoyance. |
nashville_brook |
Oct-23-05 06:13 PM |
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Some of us are cursed with "friends" who tell us things... |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-23-05 07:31 PM |
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Speaking of time and all that |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 11:10 PM |
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I wish it was something concrete that could be explained |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-23-05 11:29 PM |
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no it is not intuition-- |
newspeak |
Oct-23-05 07:42 PM |
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I think you were probably told |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 11:15 PM |
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Hakuna Matata. n/t |
bonito |
Oct-23-05 06:16 PM |
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I was freaked out over the Johnny Carson show as a kid on one night |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Oct-23-05 06:20 PM |
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It's real and pretty well documented |
Jose Diablo |
Oct-23-05 09:51 PM |
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That was Cleve Backster. "Secret Life of Plants" |
IMModerate |
Oct-24-05 12:06 AM |
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It should be two fold: the leak and the conspiracy into the war. |
roguevalley |
Oct-23-05 06:21 PM |
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those that claim psychic ability may be more intuitive than others. |
Malva Zebrina |
Oct-23-05 06:30 PM |
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I get info randomly but it's generally about family and friends-- |
elehhhhna |
Oct-23-05 06:46 PM |
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yeah, that's what it is |
newspeak |
Oct-23-05 08:12 PM |
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Oh yes |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 11:21 PM |
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KNOWING vs. wishful thinking |
Disorganized |
Oct-24-05 07:46 AM |
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... |
walldude |
Oct-23-05 06:56 PM |
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no. |
MarsThe Cat |
Oct-23-05 07:04 PM |
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Hey, this is what happens when you close the Meeting Room, Skinner! |
meganmonkey |
Oct-23-05 07:05 PM |
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I only talk to the dead and the gods |
Chicago Democrat |
Oct-23-05 07:06 PM |
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Tell Jerry I say hello n/t |
impeachdubya |
Oct-23-05 11:15 PM |
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I posted this on October 1, 2005 -- it got archived somewhere on DU. |
IdaBriggs |
Oct-23-05 07:09 PM |
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Wow - Totally Oedipal |
SpiralHawk |
Oct-24-05 07:30 AM |
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I can only see events close to my circle of family/friends |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-23-05 07:13 PM |
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everyone forgets there was a trial going on in lower Manhattan |
Stephanie |
Oct-23-05 11:00 PM |
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My cats are the ones who are psychic and they could care less. |
McCamy Taylor |
Oct-23-05 07:24 PM |
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I feel I am very intuitive as well |
DemExpat |
Oct-23-05 07:28 PM |
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it's hard to wait this out in real time, isn't it? |
BareNakedLiberal |
Oct-23-05 07:39 PM |
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thanks for your sage advice and perception |
npincus |
Oct-24-05 09:15 AM |
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I am with you all the way on this one. |
BareNakedLiberal |
Oct-24-05 05:19 PM |
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I have been accused of being psychic by my clients and |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-23-05 08:44 PM |
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Sarcasm? |
FM Arouet666 |
Oct-23-05 10:39 PM |
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I have tried but |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 10:40 PM |
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I do have abilities and am reminded of a few things |
FreedomAngel82 |
Oct-23-05 10:46 PM |
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I knew you were going to ask that. |
oregonindy |
Oct-23-05 11:01 PM |
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i have many many psychic abilities |
Faye |
Oct-23-05 11:28 PM |
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If your talking about Natural Laws the 3 Fold Law |
lovuian |
Oct-24-05 12:30 AM |
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I'm telepathic, |
Andromeda |
Oct-24-05 01:25 AM |
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I suck at this |
Mojorabbit |
Oct-24-05 03:26 PM |
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There are several threads in the Group for |
mandyky |
Oct-24-05 05:46 AM |
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thanks, I did- here's the link |
npincus |
Oct-24-05 11:12 AM |
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I'm getting a "Betty" or a "Barney" |
leftofthedial |
Oct-24-05 09:51 AM |
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I'm intuitive and have had premonitions as well as other extra-sensory |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Oct-24-05 10:10 AM |
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I predict that the rats are scramming and beware that they |
lonestarnot |
Oct-24-05 12:16 PM |
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I wanted to keep quiet, but ... |
Kailassa |
Oct-24-05 02:40 PM |
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you know, I keep having this recurring dream for over a year now |
newspeak |
Oct-24-05 02:52 PM |
#122 |