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Sun Oct-09-05 09:16 AM
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If it wasn't for Clinton's Supreme Court appointees Hardwick would still be the law of the land and if it wasn't for the Clinton presidency the armed forces wouldn't even have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy...
I'd take a one hundred year reign of Clinton Third Wayism than eight years of BFEE....
I'd bet that's a plan 99% of rank and file Democrats could embrace...
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| -Far right GOP agrees with far right DLC. Dobson's Focus on the Family. |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-05 06:18 PM |
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"Focus On Your Own Damn Family" |
jhain |
Oct-08-05 06:19 PM |
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I see that on bumper stickers in Colorado Springs. |
MissMarple |
Oct-09-05 03:16 PM |
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divide and conquer |
knowbody0 |
Oct-08-05 06:20 PM |
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Jeeze Louise... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-08-05 06:26 PM |
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The DLC report was just about like that. |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-05 06:28 PM |
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Surrrre it was... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-08-05 06:42 PM |
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And there is more. |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-05 06:52 PM |
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Of course there would be (snicker) |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 03:05 AM |
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Snickering is a neocon strategy employed when the neocon is really wrong |
Nikki Stone 1 |
Oct-09-05 03:16 AM |
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Snickering is an appropriate response to silliness... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 03:26 AM |
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Don't cut them- freeze them and then smash them to bits. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-09-05 02:14 PM |
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Frozen, broken Snickers......I seem to have not yet lived! |
Nikki Stone 1 |
Oct-09-05 08:34 PM |
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You Nailed It... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-09-05 09:00 AM |
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One wonder what planet some of these folks live on... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 11:42 AM |
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DLC vs DNC - a 10 round KO match - get your tickets exclusively at DU!! |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-09-05 12:09 PM |
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As the GOP becomes more and more EXTREME ... |
TahitiNut |
Oct-08-05 06:29 PM |
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we can't win without the DLC constituencies |
Neil Lisst |
Oct-08-05 06:35 PM |
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Carlos, is that you? |
TahitiNut |
Oct-08-05 06:58 PM |
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Oh man! Carlos!!! whatever became of him? |
wellstone_democrat |
Oct-09-05 01:31 PM |
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He was banned. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-09-05 02:16 PM |
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yeah, I remember but wondered if anyone knew his |
wellstone_democrat |
Oct-09-05 02:29 PM |
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You are trying to use common sense on an activist site - stop that |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-09-05 11:49 AM |
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The DLC doesn't have constituencies. They have donors. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-09-05 01:58 PM |
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If you really need to know what is wrong... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 04:18 AM |
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Of course not. Everone knows that the "winning strategy" is to ... |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 08:07 AM |
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Wonder where you dredge this nonsense up... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 08:53 AM |
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Don't ask and I won't tell. |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 09:10 AM |
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If It Wasn't |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-09-05 09:16 AM |
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Yep. I guess that's why there're Log Cabin Republicans. |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 09:40 AM |
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Were We Better Off When Hardwick Was The Law Of The Land? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-09-05 09:43 AM |
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Let me get this straight (or gay) ... |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 09:57 AM |
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Believe me, you can keep whatever it is... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 11:38 AM |
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Strengthen our base, reach out to young voters, |
bluedawg12 |
Oct-13-05 12:42 AM |
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HRC, Vilsack, Mary Landrieu |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-09-05 09:11 AM |
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There's a HUGH difference between Franco and Hitler! |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 09:16 AM |
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Hitler Was The Architect Of The Final Solution And Threw The World Into |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-09-05 09:23 AM |
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See? You agree. |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 09:26 AM |
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So you're seriously trying to pretend Hillary Clinton is like Hitler.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 11:43 AM |
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Nice try. |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 11:59 AM |
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Don't know what the hell else you're getting at.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 12:02 PM |
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So, you're saying it's ignorance rather than intention? |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 01:02 PM |
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Can't tell whether your claim was ignorant or deliberately dishonest |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 01:27 PM |
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That you "don't know" and "can't tell" .... |
TahitiNut |
Oct-09-05 01:39 PM |
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So tell me what the point of the "Hitler/Franco" post was.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 01:52 PM |
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Agreed... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 11:39 AM |
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There are more than too many here beyond persuasion |
Mr_Spock |
Oct-09-05 11:56 AM |
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We've done it the DLC's way for 5 years |
bluestateguy |
Oct-08-05 06:32 PM |
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Don't forget Melissa Bean. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-08-05 06:34 PM |
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That would be the Harry Truman |
MrBenchley |
Oct-08-05 06:45 PM |
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None of those people are progressives/populists |
nvliberal |
Oct-09-05 11:46 AM |
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This is a tenuous shortcut to real analysis. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-08-05 06:33 PM |
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I added more from the WP article. See my edit above. |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-05 06:45 PM |
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If your point was you're wrong, then you made it |
Neil Lisst |
Oct-08-05 06:48 PM |
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No, not all of them are Democrats. |
madfloridian |
Oct-08-05 06:54 PM |
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So which ones are really Republicans? Hillary? Max Cleland? Kerry? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 02:54 PM |
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No, of course not. |
madfloridian |
Oct-09-05 06:22 PM |
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That's who the Democratic Leadership Council is.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-10-05 07:18 AM |
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Aw c'mon everybody. Get with it. |
niallmac |
Oct-08-05 06:58 PM |
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There is no" to far to the left "as far as I'm concerned. n/t |
Snotcicles |
Oct-09-05 11:50 AM |
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The DLC is comprised of REPUBLICAN INFILTRATORS into the Dem Party |
loudsue |
Oct-09-05 12:06 PM |
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Oct-09-05 12:16 PM |
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Hillary Clinton is a GOP infiltrator? Really? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 02:53 PM |
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Mr. Benchley...how can you be so blind. |
loudsue |
Oct-09-05 06:05 PM |
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So I guess the answer to my question is |
MrBenchley |
Oct-10-05 07:16 AM |
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Didn't we do this in 2004? Or was Kerry a wild leftist to these peeps |
wellstone_democrat |
Oct-09-05 01:40 PM |
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Don't forget all those hippies like Max Cleland we ran in 2002. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Oct-09-05 02:11 PM |
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You DO know Cleland is a member of the DLC, don't you? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 02:51 PM |
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You DO know I campaigned for Max Cleland in Augusta GA. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-09-05 03:11 PM |
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So in other words, Cleland is part of the DLC |
MrBenchley |
Oct-09-05 05:00 PM |
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I never said he was not DLC. I said he lost in 2002. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-09-05 09:26 PM |
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So that DLC must not be ALL bad, if it's got folks like Cleland, eh? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-10-05 07:07 AM |
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I agree- the DLC is not all bad. I love Cleland, Gore, Hackett, etc |
Dr Fate |
Oct-10-05 11:12 AM |
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Like I said... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-10-05 04:19 PM |
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I was responding to post #51 |
Dr Fate |
Oct-10-05 05:08 PM |
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I don't see many Democrats courting the religious right... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-10-05 05:13 PM |
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Here is a unique idea on how we actually can do that: |
Dr Fate |
Oct-10-05 05:23 PM |
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That seemed to you like a good idea? Weird. |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 06:14 AM |
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Someone said Zell is moderate? I thought he was more in line w/ the DLC |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 10:10 AM |
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Please, somebody buy a clue..... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 04:40 PM |
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I've never met any DLC volunteers. They seem to only exist on websites. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:14 PM |
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Know what? I'm not gonna tell you why that is... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 05:18 PM |
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Probably because you are their 501st volunteer. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:24 PM |
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This gets funnier and funnier.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 05:27 PM |
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So you are against living wages for families? Sounds "far right." |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 10:32 AM |
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Did Kreskin tell you that was what that gibberish referred to? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 04:54 PM |
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I'll be glad to continue that topic in the original thread: |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:18 PM |
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Include me out.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 05:25 PM |
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I will. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:29 PM |
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Also, I think Kerry won in Richmond county due to massive GOTV... |
Dr Fate |
Oct-09-05 09:50 PM |
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Geeze, get out the vote is a strategy old as the hills.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-10-05 07:13 AM |
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Wrong- it was Liberal Black voters who put Kerry over the top in Augusta. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-10-05 11:18 AM |
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And I'll bet a lot were old line moderate Democrats |
MrBenchley |
Oct-10-05 04:17 PM |
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No- that would be the Gov. Barnes machine, who lost everything in 2002. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-10-05 05:02 PM |
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Jeepers |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 06:24 AM |
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Where can I meet some of these active DLC people? |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 10:15 AM |
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The "me too" strategy was one passed down from the top in 2002. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 10:27 AM |
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Again, did you expect to set national policy |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 04:37 PM |
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I dont believe I've looked at the DNC website in some time either. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:11 PM |
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Tee hee hee.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 05:16 PM |
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I asked how YOU influence national policy. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:19 PM |
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Ask louder.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 05:24 PM |
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Nah- I'll check "the website"- that holy-grail of strategic wisdom... |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 06:48 PM |
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About fucking time.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-12-05 07:22 AM |
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Yes- and you can tell from my posts that I was never driving at that. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-12-05 12:57 PM |
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Which posts are supposed to tell me that, pray tell? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-12-05 04:29 PM |
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No one is supposed to tell YOU anything, Mr. Benchly. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-12-05 04:53 PM |
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Awwww.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-12-05 05:08 PM |
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Oh- is that how it happened? |
Dr Fate |
Oct-13-05 12:05 AM |
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Hey, you didn't know what type of organization it is |
MrBenchley |
Oct-13-05 07:14 AM |
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Either you are dull or half way okay at turning things around on people. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-13-05 12:17 PM |
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Far as I can see "the constant theme over the past 2 years on DU" |
MrBenchley |
Oct-13-05 06:09 PM |
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Just what we've known. Far right GOP = far right DLC |
leesa |
Oct-10-05 08:19 AM |
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As if Kerry and many other candidates didn't take this approach & LOSE! |
confludemocrat |
Oct-10-05 08:42 AM |
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WTF?! |
Arkana |
Oct-10-05 05:09 PM |
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Far-right NRA agrees with Howard Dean! |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-10-05 05:24 PM |
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Let's take all this issue by issue, candidate by candidate. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-10-05 05:27 PM |
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I wasn't really serious. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-10-05 08:13 PM |
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Dean does not go much for gun control. |
madfloridian |
Oct-10-05 05:31 PM |
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So since YOU declare it a non-issue |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 06:31 AM |
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And James Dobson is opposed to gun control! Aiyeee! |
MrBenchley |
Oct-11-05 06:36 AM |
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That is why I say "issue by issue, candidate by candidate." |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:38 PM |
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Now just a damn minute! I thought Howard Dean was an "ultra-leftist" |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Oct-11-05 05:56 PM |
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Issue by issue, candidate by candidate. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-11-05 05:59 PM |
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Who the fuck ever said Dean was an ultra-leftist? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-12-05 07:27 AM |
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I don't know, maybe the DLC itself... |
Solon |
Oct-13-05 12:27 AM |
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The DLC notes that Kerry was being overly tactical. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-13-05 12:35 AM |
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How I wish people could actually READ... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-13-05 07:25 AM |
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Oh, my bad, I thought I ras reading that from their website. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-13-05 12:12 PM |
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ruh-ro.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-13-05 06:07 PM |
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The DLC put that Boston Globe Editorial on their Website. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-13-05 07:36 PM |
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Yes, and did you read the conclusion? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-14-05 06:40 AM |
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Yes. But If you can't answer questions about an editorial you site.... |
Dr Fate |
Oct-14-05 12:30 PM |
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What a silly statement..... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-14-05 09:13 PM |
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The reason is the DLC does indeed agree with the text it provided. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-14-05 01:46 PM |
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Tee hee hee.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-14-05 09:14 PM |
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Ahem.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-13-05 07:17 AM |
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So how do we tell which parts of the article "the website" agrees with? |
Dr Fate |
Oct-13-05 01:44 PM |
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Try press releases and position papers |
MrBenchley |
Oct-13-05 06:11 PM |
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I said Dean's DNC/DFA approach- I was not asking about the primaries. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-13-05 07:21 PM |
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Happen to catch Dean on David Letterman? |
MrBenchley |
Oct-14-05 06:41 AM |
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Good diversion. Now back tho the DLC link you sited: |
Dr Fate |
Oct-14-05 12:35 PM |
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n/t |
Dr Fate |
Oct-14-05 01:44 PM |
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No diversion at all.... |
MrBenchley |
Oct-14-05 09:16 PM |
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I'll answer the questions myself: |
Dr Fate |
Oct-14-05 01:47 PM |
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They're your silly questions..be as goofy as you like. |
MrBenchley |
Oct-14-05 09:18 PM |
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There is a place for radical right wing theofascists |
bluedawg12 |
Oct-13-05 12:52 AM |
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HA HA HA HA |
MisterP |
Oct-13-05 06:14 PM |
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Damn it .. the people were THERE in '04 |
annabanana |
Oct-13-05 06:13 PM |
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"...prominent role of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council..." |
paineinthearse |
Oct-13-05 06:24 PM |
#136 |