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What we MUST realize in order to win - Americans are stupid and uninformed
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This is very important because in order to win we must understand the way the average American thinks. I'm afraid WE have nothing in common with them.

I came to the two following conclusions when I saw the large number of people who voted for Bush back in 2000.

#1 - I would dare to assume that most of us here are in the upper 1%-20% of the population intelligence-wise. We must come to the realization that the majority of the population is in the lower 80% to 99% percent of the bell-curve. WE are not the norm. The Republicans understand that the average American is not very bright. They cater and pander to the masses. The Democratic Party tries to appeal to the population about "issues" that these people just don't understand.

I've heard it said that the reason that Clinton's sex scandal resonated so strongly among "the people" was because it was a scandal that the average American understood. The average person can't understand a financial scandal.

In addition, people of average or lower intelligence tend to not be as logical or reasoned as those of higher intelligence - they deal with emotion. Therefore they are more likely to get riled up about someone burning a flag rather than a illogical tax cut.


#2 - The majority of people do not read the newspaper OR listen to the news, CNN, etc. Therefore -they get their news from the Tonight Show, Letterman, Oprah and Saturday Night Live. Or, they get their news from talking to their co-workers at the water cooler.

Also, for the few people who DO listen to the news - who do they hear it from? Fox News and Bill O'Reilly are the most popular. Most newspapers and media outlets are owned by Republicans.

THIS is what we are fighting against people. In order to win we will need to start pandering to the masses.
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  What we MUST realize in order to win - Americans are stupid and uninformed janekat  Oct-08-03 11:35 AM   #0 
   I would prefer 20%-25% voter turnout!!!! There are very few...  PROGRESSIVE1   Oct-08-03 11:38 AM   #1 
   I know - maybe they should start giving tests to voters  janekat   Oct-08-03 11:43 AM   #4 
   Funny...  pnb   Oct-08-03 02:21 PM   #31 
   Yes.  DemVet   Oct-08-03 02:40 PM   #40 
   frightening....  HitmanLV   Oct-09-03 08:02 PM   #94 
   Thanks Hitman  Ardee   Oct-11-03 10:04 AM   #137 
   Comment and scolding  calm_blue_ocean   Oct-10-03 05:58 PM   #99 
   bad idea  gate of the sun   Oct-10-03 10:47 PM   #122 
   you mean like they did in mississippi back in the day?  angka   Oct-10-03 11:18 PM   #126 
   Right  forgethell   Oct-10-03 05:15 PM   #96 
   Britney for President!  Maine-i-acs   Oct-08-03 11:42 AM   #2 
   Maybe we should have run Jerry Springer  janekat   Oct-08-03 11:44 AM   #6 
   I thought we were running him for Senator.  Bandit   Oct-08-03 11:47 AM   #9 
   We aren't running him for anything.  ieoeja   Oct-08-03 04:00 PM   #65 
      he's not running  bearfartinthewoods   Oct-09-03 02:18 PM   #82 
   Isnt he a Repubican?  Fescue4u   Oct-13-03 09:20 AM   #187 
      Nope  SubliminAL MessaGOREs   Oct-13-03 11:36 PM   #195 
   It's actually one lower than the Groper!  PROGRESSIVE1   Oct-08-03 11:58 AM   #20 
   Almost what I thought when I read the name of the thread....  magnolia   Oct-11-03 03:43 PM   #152 
   misinformed, yes, but...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-08-03 11:43 AM   #3 
   I Agree  RobinA   Oct-08-03 03:59 PM   #64 
   Hey, maybe we can get Dean to run on this!  Kimble   Oct-08-03 11:44 AM   #5 
   We have to tell Dean, Clark and the rest of the candidates to "dumb" down  janekat   Oct-08-03 11:47 AM   #8 
      Oh.......my.........God!  billyskank   Oct-08-03 02:12 PM   #28 
   "We're all just so much more enlightened than them"  IrateCitizen   Oct-08-03 11:46 AM   #7 
   How do you explain the group of people who think that Bush is "intelligent  janekat   Oct-08-03 11:50 AM   #10 
   How do THEY explain it?  JHB   Oct-08-03 02:36 PM   #36 
   Yea I have asked them.....  RapidCreek   Oct-09-03 05:28 AM   #73 
   Bush is not intelligent...  LeahMira   Oct-09-03 01:46 PM   #78 
   Explain Arnie  RobinA   Oct-08-03 04:03 PM   #66 
   Bravo!!!  LeahMira   Oct-09-03 01:23 PM   #77 
      Can't schmooze with the Carpenters....  BiggJawn   Oct-11-03 10:11 AM   #138 
   Why we have been losing  demsrule4life   Oct-08-03 11:50 AM   #11 
   What a smug, self-satisfied post.  DealsGapRider   Oct-08-03 11:50 AM   #12 
   I'm not speaking of the people who vote for Reps - just Arnold voters  janekat   Oct-08-03 03:55 PM   #63 
      C'mon!  billfromwny   Oct-09-03 06:43 PM   #92 
      especially YOU!  piece sine   Oct-10-03 06:37 PM   #106 
   An effective educational tool.  NoKingGeorge   Oct-08-03 11:50 AM   #13 
   do you really think you can 'educate' someone via a bumpersticker?  bearfartinthewoods   Oct-09-03 04:41 PM   #87 
   Speaking of...  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 04:25 AM   #166 
   RIGHT  JI7   Oct-08-03 11:51 AM   #14 
   Well.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 04:31 AM   #167 
   even if you're right,  angka   Oct-08-03 11:51 AM   #15 
   We don't need to broadcast this - just keep it in mind  janekat   Oct-08-03 11:57 AM   #18 
   Trust me, the more damaging stuff on this site IS broadcast  0rganism   Oct-09-03 05:14 AM   #71 
   now i for one  angka   Oct-09-03 06:57 PM   #93 
   and this morning the first post of this thread made it into the WSJ  bearfartinthewoods   Oct-11-03 07:52 AM   #132 
   too late!  piece sine   Oct-10-03 06:48 PM   #109 
   i hope you're kidding.  angka   Oct-10-03 10:47 PM   #121 
      yikes.  angka   Oct-11-03 08:48 AM   #133 
   How do  forgethell   Oct-10-03 11:20 PM   #127 
   Strategy verses argument  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 06:35 PM   #105 
   This is incredibly condescending, and misses the real point  kcwayne   Oct-08-03 11:55 AM   #16 
   You hit a home run here  no name no slogan   Oct-08-03 12:07 PM   #22 
   Excellent comment  forgethell   Oct-10-03 11:22 PM   #128 
   This is dangerous thinking-- like that of Hitler or Stalin  no name no slogan   Oct-08-03 11:55 AM   #17 
   This is hilarious!. . .  Journeyman   Oct-08-03 11:58 AM   #19 
   More like apathetic and uninformed. Remember, not many cared about the Mo  ignatius   Oct-08-03 12:06 PM   #21 
   Nice. Very elitist. This is obviously the way to get people on our side.  DrGonzoLives   Oct-08-03 12:07 PM   #23 
   Message from a "stupid" American  Bluzmann57   Oct-08-03 12:47 PM   #24 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-08-03 12:55 PM   #25 
   Janekat is right... knock off the "elitist" accusations  mreilly   Oct-08-03 01:48 PM   #26 
   its not elitist, it's simply the truth..  toddzilla   Oct-08-03 02:01 PM   #27 
   The masses do 'suck the surface'  lostnfound   Oct-08-03 02:24 PM   #32 
   Wow.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 04:47 AM   #168 
   What a friggin joke...  pnb   Oct-08-03 02:18 PM   #29 
   why do you think they started out calling the emergency # 911  MISSDem   Oct-09-03 02:36 PM   #83 
   I take exception with your characterization  ewagner   Oct-08-03 02:21 PM   #30 
   You ought to start a thread with this posting....  eleny   Oct-08-03 02:29 PM   #33 
   Better yet, send it to the DNC.  ignatius   Oct-08-03 02:36 PM   #37 
   Saving that for future reference!  Booberdawg   Oct-10-03 05:35 PM   #97 
   God.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 04:56 AM   #169 
   Deny all you like, SHE's RIGHT  Capn Sunshine   Oct-08-03 02:32 PM   #34 
   Here's where we make our mistake.  forgethell   Oct-10-03 10:27 PM   #120 
   Or.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:04 AM   #170 
   Limbaugh would love to direct people to this thread to discredit DU.  tlb   Oct-08-03 02:36 PM   #35 
   He already did today...  IrateCitizen   Oct-08-03 02:40 PM   #39 
      If you're going to base your entire strategy on what the GOP thinks..  mreilly   Oct-08-03 03:01 PM   #45 
         I could give a flying fuck at a rolling donut what Rush thinks about us!  IrateCitizen   Oct-08-03 03:04 PM   #47 
         Well, take comfort in the fact FR threads are always worse  mreilly   Oct-08-03 03:13 PM   #56 
         you don't have to IMAGINE anything...  piece sine   Oct-10-03 06:57 PM   #111 
         Except.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:08 AM   #171 
   This is true. I don't know how much you can blame the public. The RW  AP   Oct-08-03 02:38 PM   #38 
   I suppose...  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:13 AM   #172 
   Bingo! (sorry to say)  ElementaryPenguin   Oct-08-03 02:42 PM   #41 
   I Don't think it's about stupidity  Beacho   Oct-08-03 02:52 PM   #42 
   Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding  indigo32   Oct-08-03 02:59 PM   #44 
   It just doesn't get much closer to truth than Lewis Black!  IrateCitizen   Oct-08-03 03:13 PM   #55 
   We Don't Need No Stinkin Statistics  HalfManHalfBiscuit   Oct-08-03 02:57 PM   #43 
   I don't mean to be so condescending but I live in an all-Republican  janekat   Oct-08-03 03:02 PM   #46 
   Elitist? You are a Freaking Genius!  KFC   Oct-08-03 03:05 PM   #48 
   The Media, of course--not the intelligence of the voter  jpgray   Oct-08-03 03:08 PM   #51 
   It's because these people give them a scapegoat  IrateCitizen   Oct-08-03 03:11 PM   #52 
   Actually, it's Naples, Fl - a bunch of wealty retirees from the midwest  janekat   Oct-08-03 03:35 PM   #61 
   Uhh....  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:20 AM   #174 
   You are dumb. Screw complicated subject titles.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:17 AM   #173 
   Nonsense!!  jpgray   Oct-08-03 03:05 PM   #49 
   Wait.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:25 AM   #175 
   I don't believe people are stupid.  FlaGranny   Oct-08-03 03:05 PM   #50 
   Well, come on.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:27 AM   #177 
   Hey Britney, I knew you posted here!  KFC   Oct-08-03 03:11 PM   #53 
   Gee  hiphopnation23   Oct-08-03 03:12 PM   #54 
   What proof do you have to back up this claim. Just because  LibertyorDeath   Oct-08-03 03:20 PM   #57 
   Many people are AFRAID to be informed  IkeWarnedUs   Oct-08-03 03:20 PM   #58 
   Good Point...  LibertyorDeath   Oct-08-03 03:26 PM   #59 
   Wait a second  jiacinto   Oct-08-03 03:29 PM   #60 
   The sex scandal against Clinton didn't work  Classical_Liberal   Oct-08-03 03:38 PM   #62 
   elitism..  leftyandproud   Oct-08-03 04:04 PM   #67 
   Obviously you are not in the "high intelligence" portion of the bell curve  KFC   Oct-08-03 04:05 PM   #68 
   Heh.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:30 AM   #178 
   Dudes, you got to understand.  Hielo   Oct-08-03 04:34 PM   #69 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-09-03 01:08 PM   #76 
   Well..  Roark   Oct-10-03 06:23 PM   #101 
   LOL...  Darranar   Oct-10-03 06:29 PM   #103 
   Good Gravy....  HitmanLV   Oct-09-03 05:02 AM   #70 
   well, at least there's ONE...  piece sine   Oct-09-03 01:04 PM   #75 
   Maybe  hiphopnation23   Oct-09-03 02:51 PM   #85 
   Good points, mostly.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:34 AM   #180 
   You can never go wrong underestimating  Piperay   Oct-09-03 05:18 AM   #72 
   Yes you can.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:37 AM   #181 
   Americans are Stupid?  benderlane   Oct-09-03 11:09 AM   #74 
   So thats what accounts  devinsgram   Oct-09-03 02:01 PM   #79 
   Look at who makes up..  MCVet   Oct-09-03 02:14 PM   #80 
      right.  fearsomepirate   Oct-09-03 06:29 PM   #91 
   It must be a wonderful thing ,Janekat, to be as intelligent as you.  E Pluribus Unum   Oct-09-03 02:18 PM   #81 
   Don't shoot the messenger for  Zorra   Oct-09-03 02:47 PM   #84 
   There is so much a head strong comedy, a keeper indeed  nolabels   Oct-09-03 03:08 PM   #86 
   This is a ridiculously stupid thread  Loyal   Oct-09-03 05:32 PM   #88 
   Get your head out of the sand  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 06:31 PM   #104 
      wisdom from canucks?  Loyal   Oct-10-03 06:58 PM   #112 
         Xenophobia  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 07:31 PM   #117 
            I prefer the term "ethnocentrism"  Loyal   Oct-11-03 03:14 AM   #129 
   Well,  Loyal   Oct-09-03 05:39 PM   #89 
   w/e  fearsomepirate   Oct-09-03 06:26 PM   #90 
   Here fucking here!  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:45 AM   #182 
      not a Rep  fearsomepirate   Oct-13-03 04:16 PM   #189 
         Point taken.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 07:33 PM   #191 
   'How to lose an election 101, Lesson 1'  iangb   Oct-09-03 10:28 PM   #95 
   You are 100% correct.  AlinPA   Oct-10-03 05:37 PM   #98 
   So tell me this:  Darranar   Oct-10-03 06:15 PM   #100 
   Willful denial  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 06:27 PM   #102 
   This is a surefire way to ...  kevinc   Oct-10-03 06:38 PM   #107 
   Winning the popular vote  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 06:59 PM   #113 
   so....  kevinc   Oct-10-03 07:06 PM   #114 
   Exactly.  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 07:08 PM   #115 
      ok then  kevinc   Oct-10-03 07:29 PM   #116 
      Not a problem  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 07:47 PM   #119 
      Lying & pandering?  forgethell   Oct-10-03 11:10 PM   #125 
   I think most of what you stated is so stupid I won't even bother, but.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 05:51 AM   #183 
   Welcome to DU!  fishnfla   Oct-11-03 12:46 PM   #147 
   Claptrap.  hiphopnation23   Oct-10-03 06:56 PM   #110 
   Power or principles  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-10-03 07:41 PM   #118 
   The masses,  forgethell   Oct-10-03 11:07 PM   #124 
   Too late  fishnfla   Oct-11-03 08:55 AM   #134 
   Sadly, I think you are correct.........  Castilleja   Oct-10-03 06:46 PM   #108 
   How Right You Are  Unforgiven   Oct-10-03 10:50 PM   #123 
   Congratulations, you've provided ammo for the WSJ to attack liberals with!  JVS   Oct-11-03 04:07 AM   #130 
   To win, we have to rid ourselves of this kind of arrogant...  Oberst Klink   Oct-11-03 06:16 AM   #131 
   Welcome Oberst Klink  bhunt70   Oct-11-03 11:47 AM   #146 
   Your analysis in poorly drawn and elitist  quaker bill   Oct-11-03 09:35 AM   #135 
   This is the truth  uhhuh   Oct-11-03 11:08 AM   #144 
   The vast majority of Americans are of perfectly normal intelligence  Mairead   Oct-11-03 09:51 AM   #136 
   Don't trust repug press for fair and balanced coverage of DU  tamdon   Oct-11-03 11:04 AM   #142 
   Adlai Stevenson  JVS   Oct-11-03 11:07 AM   #143 
   I agree but....  Polemonium   Oct-14-03 02:05 AM   #197 
   Without taking sides in this debate  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-11-03 10:16 AM   #139 
   The Straussians in the current government actually HAVE this philosophy.  poskonig   Oct-11-03 10:18 AM   #140 
   Leo Strauss.......  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-11-03 10:28 AM   #141 
   This is ridiculous...it's whats killing the Democratic Party.  bhunt70   Oct-11-03 11:35 AM   #145 
   At least one Dem candidate is taking this approach --  Feanorcurufinwe   Oct-11-03 02:26 PM   #148 
   He's also leading in the polls  Resistance Is Futile   Oct-11-03 02:39 PM   #149 
      "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the American people"  Feanorcurufinwe   Oct-11-03 02:51 PM   #150 
         Right  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-11-03 02:55 PM   #151 
   What's your alternative?  Meliorist   Oct-12-03 04:55 PM   #153 
   My god.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 06:07 AM   #184 
      Brain Picking  Meliorist   Oct-13-03 11:02 PM   #193 
      No alternatives here, just the SOS  Meliorist   Oct-14-03 01:00 PM   #199 
   Worse, the average American ddn't understand the hypocrisy of Arnold's sex  HypnoToad   Oct-12-03 05:02 PM   #154 
   Caveat emptor  gulliver   Oct-12-03 05:07 PM   #155 
   This is not only stupid, it is pathetic.  Jon Thompson   Oct-12-03 11:53 PM   #156 
      Ahhh Haaa Haaa Haaa! That's Hilarious!  Merlin   Oct-13-03 02:09 AM   #159 
         Me?  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 03:56 AM   #163 
   This is just intellectual wanking.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 01:03 AM   #157 
   Oh, yeah. You're right. People are so godam well informed and smart, too.  Merlin   Oct-13-03 02:06 AM   #158 
      If you weren't wrong, you'd be right.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 04:05 AM   #164 
      You were right to "expect this kind of reprisal." Your post deserved it.  Merlin   Oct-13-03 05:26 AM   #176 
         What?  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 06:16 AM   #185 
      Oh yes.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 04:18 AM   #165 
         Oh, no!  Merlin   Oct-13-03 05:33 AM   #179 
            Sorry man.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 06:20 AM   #186 
   It's MEME warfare  JCMach1   Oct-13-03 02:15 AM   #160 
   I hate to say this but you're right on some counts  blkgrl   Oct-13-03 03:00 AM   #161 
   No  A_Tra   Oct-13-03 03:45 AM   #162 
      I love this dialog  TheGipper   Oct-13-03 02:06 PM   #188 
         Not this little black duck.  Jon Thompson   Oct-13-03 11:09 PM   #194 
   one of several posts  PATRICK   Oct-13-03 05:14 PM   #190 
   We should just prefix everything we say with "God told me..."  Philosophy   Oct-13-03 07:47 PM   #192 
   Sheep In Amerika!  farmboxer   Oct-14-03 12:13 AM   #196 
   I am more than apologetic.  lapauvre   Oct-14-03 02:20 AM   #198 
 

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