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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:48 PM
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38. It was slaves, not forgieners.....
And they did it to try and keep the republic going.....

Since the beginning of Marius seven year rule of Rome when Caesar was a child, the expansion of Roman citizenship had been expanding to include all of Italy....

The patricians had gone into te country, established large estates and basically turned the whole of Italy into a feudal system...

The move by Caesar, via Anthony, was to cut the power to the Patritians....

Caesar wasn's bad a guy as everyone thinks he was...

when you put him in the context of the times, he would have been a populist while the patricians in the Senate would have been the big business....

He expanded the say of the people....

Marc Anthony was a general, a brute and a creation of the Patritians....

Attia and Servila were two key members of the ruling class who had blood ties going back almost as far Ceasar.....

In fact, Caeser and Attia shared the same blood, the Julia....
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  -Wanna know why dems always "cave?" Atman  Oct-03-05 10:01 AM   #0 
  - boxer didnt cave jan 6. conyers, water, waxman, many others  seabeyond   Oct-03-05 10:08 AM   #1 
  - Excuse me Captain Literal!  Atman   Oct-03-05 10:45 AM   #5 
  - except this is what the media says, and what the republicans say  seabeyond   Oct-03-05 10:50 AM   #6 
     - Because the net result is the same  Atman   Oct-03-05 11:06 AM   #11 
        - i disagree., i think with repug power in all places, including media  seabeyond   Oct-03-05 11:16 AM   #13 
  - True but...  lateo   Oct-03-05 11:31 AM   #15 
     - the whitehouse, senate, house and judiciary and media  seabeyond   Oct-03-05 11:34 AM   #16 
        - When the Dems controlled the Senate...  lateo   Oct-03-05 12:25 PM   #17 
           - are you talking about immediately after 9/11  seabeyond   Oct-03-05 12:30 PM   #18 
              - True but...  lateo   Oct-03-05 02:17 PM   #33 
  - We have to build a Democratic majority.  eallen   Oct-03-05 10:10 AM   #2 
  - maybe if they wouldn't cave on electronic voting machines  Tamyrlin79   Oct-03-05 10:39 AM   #3 
  - Yay Tamyrlin! My political soul mate kicking it!  Melodybe   Oct-03-05 02:23 PM   #34 
  - Stop using logic in arguments!!  Mr_Spock   Oct-03-05 10:43 AM   #4 
  - As long as we vote on evoting machines with NO PAPER TRAIL,  in_cog_ni_to   Oct-03-05 10:58 AM   #7 
  - Except that by standing on principle once in a while  gratuitous   Oct-03-05 11:01 AM   #8 
     - BRA - VO  Mandate My Ass   Oct-03-05 11:04 AM   #9 
     - Thanks  gratuitous   Oct-03-05 11:19 AM   #14 
        - It's very well thought out and articulated  Mandate My Ass   Oct-03-05 01:18 PM   #24 
     - I'm sure that if they could have just put a 'hold'  Tactical Progressive   Oct-03-05 12:48 PM   #20 
        - Of course Republicans change the rules to suit themselves  gratuitous   Oct-03-05 12:57 PM   #21 
        - I don't know that they've waived it by not using it  Tactical Progressive   Oct-03-05 01:19 PM   #25 
           - Except that if you don't use it for the Chief Justice  gratuitous   Oct-03-05 01:29 PM   #27 
              - They asked, they insisted, they demanded  Tactical Progressive   Oct-03-05 01:44 PM   #29 
                 - I must have missed that  gratuitous   Oct-03-05 01:58 PM   #30 
        - The pink slip is for nominees from the Senator's home state.  eallen   Oct-03-05 12:59 PM   #22 
           - Yes, home state  Tactical Progressive   Oct-03-05 01:08 PM   #23 
              - Ah. I didn't realize the rule had been rescinded.  eallen   Oct-03-05 02:00 PM   #31 
  - the guy in charge is Marc Antony....  MsTryska   Oct-03-05 11:06 AM   #10 
  - Marc Antony...of course  Atman   Oct-03-05 11:14 AM   #12 
  - It was slaves, not forgieners.....  WCGreen   Oct-03-05 02:48 PM   #38 
     - same difference....  MsTryska   Oct-03-05 03:18 PM   #40 
        - Yea, but they didn;t have to do more than provide room and  WCGreen   Oct-03-05 06:20 PM   #42 
  - Because they're politicians whose first priority is themselves.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-03-05 12:40 PM   #19 
  - Get along to go... along.  scard   Oct-03-05 01:21 PM   #26 
  - I also learned from that episode that  Gruenemann   Oct-03-05 01:38 PM   #28 
  - Well..... no.  incapsulated   Oct-03-05 02:09 PM   #32 
  - No, I'm not suggesting the exact situations  Atman   Oct-03-05 02:46 PM   #37 
     - But I don't blame Bush for the Dem's weakness  incapsulated   Oct-03-05 02:54 PM   #39 
  - I wanted to see that...  AlphaCat   Oct-03-05 02:32 PM   #35 
     - It's great, watch it  incapsulated   Oct-03-05 02:36 PM   #36 
        - Thanks!  AlphaCat   Oct-03-05 05:23 PM   #41 
        - It's my favorite show  WCGreen   Oct-03-05 06:20 PM   #43 
 

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