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208. I am willing to bet that you don't agressively search
That is true. But i have searched some vehicles, most of the men here, know me and my rules, but theres always the one who believes i won't enforce it. If i hear a shot on my place, and find a vehicle in that area, it will be searched. Failure to allow me to search, means permanent eviction, which usually means he just lost his job with the company he's working for.
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  -OMG! "SHOOT FIRST" Policy in Florida?? WTF?? leftchick  Oct-02-05 07:59 PM   #0 
  - you're surprised?  Dem Agog   Oct-02-05 08:02 PM   #1 
  - This went over my head completely  leftchick   Oct-02-05 08:05 PM   #2 
     - yeah that happens...  Dem Agog   Oct-02-05 09:04 PM   #38 
  - Let me tell you, it's already had an impact in my home.  The Backlash Cometh   Oct-02-05 08:05 PM   #3 
  - omg..  leftchick   Oct-02-05 08:10 PM   #8 
  - Jeb is a horrid, disgusting pig beast...  marmar   Oct-02-05 08:07 PM   #4 
  - Republican Birth/Population Control  Tom Yossarian Joad   Oct-02-05 08:07 PM   #5 
  - My son just pointed out that Florida is even shaped like a gun.  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:08 PM   #6 
  - Nervous?  Child_Of_Isis   Oct-02-05 08:10 PM   #7 
  - Can you say "propaganda"?  Wcross   Oct-02-05 08:12 PM   #9 
  - At the very least..  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:26 PM   #14 
     - Do you know that some states recognize "natural, inherent and inalienable  jody   Oct-02-05 09:14 PM   #46 
     - The "culture of life" don't ya know....property is worth more than life.  Toots   Oct-03-05 08:53 AM   #170 
     - Well, we already know property is more important than life.  fifthgendem   Oct-03-05 09:39 AM   #174 
  - I bet this one goes to a court...n/t  pinto   Oct-02-05 08:12 PM   #10 
  - People, this is bad. VERY bad.  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:14 PM   #11 
  - It seems nobody here has read the law. It is a CASTLE LAW.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 08:17 PM   #12 
  - Dang you beat me to that word  Retired AF Dem   Oct-02-05 08:27 PM   #15 
  - Yeah, if we all carried guns and could shoot the people that scare us  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:33 PM   #17 
  - renie before you get all upset and loose sleep why don't you find the  Retired AF Dem   Oct-02-05 08:37 PM   #20 
     - "FindLaw" is a Republican group? How do you know that?  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:50 PM   # 
        - Why do cops carry guns?  Retired AF Dem   Oct-02-05 08:57 PM   #32 
           - Because policemen are required by their JOB DESCRIPTION  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:11 PM   #44 
              - I guess you had too much frothy spittle flying up on the screen...  BiggJawn   Oct-02-05 10:26 PM   #105 
                 - yeah, well, that is way more your wife or girlfriend's problem than it is  renie408   Oct-02-05 10:35 PM   #115 
                    - Nope, it's still there.  BiggJawn   Oct-02-05 10:44 PM   #121 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-03-05 07:07 PM   #203 
  - This is a little different than a concealed carry law  walldude   Oct-02-05 08:35 PM   #18 
  - This law does not increase the number of legally carried weapons  usnret88   Oct-02-05 08:40 PM   #21 
     - I never said it did...  walldude   Oct-02-05 08:56 PM   #30 
        - You are correct, you never said it did - I screwed up and put my  usnret88   Oct-02-05 09:56 PM   #72 
  - "I'm still waiting for those blood baths and wild west shootouts"  MojoXN   Oct-03-05 08:00 AM   #168 
  - NO, please read the link above...  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:32 PM   #16 
  - This is the bill.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 08:53 PM   #29 
  - Where do you drive your car, if not the streets?  chascarrillo   Oct-03-05 01:35 AM   #160 
  - NOT thinking about a Florida vacation...  marions ghost   Oct-02-05 08:23 PM   #13 
  - Can you feel the F33R...  D__S   Oct-02-05 08:36 PM   #19 
  - "Don't do the crime"???? What crime is that? Which crimes are covered?  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:44 PM   #24 
  - Link to that story?  Retired AF Dem   Oct-02-05 08:45 PM   #25 
  - LOL...I hate to tell you,  renie408   Oct-02-05 08:53 PM   #28 
  - Kneejerk often?  _Loki_   Oct-02-05 09:06 PM   #40 
  - If I could find the damn link  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:15 PM   #47 
     - She did get away with it.  TX-RAT   Oct-03-05 09:11 AM   #172 
        - If we are to get in to posting hypotheticals...  _Loki_   Oct-03-05 07:34 PM   #205 
        - Easy, wait and see.  Kailassa   Oct-04-05 07:19 PM   #226 
  - "people like you really make me sick"! Well get sick, I'll get even. nt  jody   Oct-02-05 09:08 PM   #41 
  - What? Are you going to SHOOT me??  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:18 PM   #48 
     - Now you know I didn't say that. I won't try to force you to keep and bear  jody   Oct-02-05 09:27 PM   #54 
        - How, then , did you plan to get even?  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:36 PM   #59 
           - You say "Yes, I choose to submit to criminals. " Have a nice life. n/t  jody   Oct-02-05 10:05 PM   #75 
           - When you choose to submit is more than likely when you die  sierrajim   Oct-02-05 10:36 PM   #116 
           - So you obviously never lived in a city  RagingInMiami   Oct-02-05 11:57 PM   #152 
  - The particular shooting would STILL be criminal.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 09:10 PM   #43 
  - No, this law says that you can pretty much shoot anybody anywhere  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:22 PM   #49 
     - It ain't that simple.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 09:29 PM   #55 
        - My friend, what does THIS mean?  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:41 PM   #61 
           - Notice the change in your reading to support your hysteria.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 09:54 PM   #69 
              - Once it becomes a legal issue to determine whether or not the fear  renie408   Oct-02-05 10:10 PM   #81 
                 - The self defense laws are pretty much the same in every state.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:15 PM   #88 
                    - I dunno  renie408   Oct-02-05 10:33 PM   #113 
  - Sorry renie,  TX-RAT   Oct-03-05 09:05 AM   #171 
     - It's not very wise, that's for sure,  raccoon   Oct-04-05 10:19 AM   #210 
     - Great way to get shot in broad daylight too.  D__S   Oct-04-05 11:39 AM   #214 
  - Well, you could be shopping in a local auto parts store...  JulieRB   Oct-02-05 10:18 PM   #92 
  - Not OK to hit the clerk.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:49 PM   #124 
     - Checking background is the most important part of using a gun.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 11:28 PM   #144 
  - It's interesting  Kailassa   Oct-04-05 08:01 PM   #228 
  - Please read the actual law below, it simply codifies a natural, inherent  jody   Oct-02-05 08:40 PM   #22 
  - Exactly.  Mojorabbit   Oct-02-05 08:57 PM   #33 
  - I'll  jody   Oct-02-05 09:02 PM   #36 
  - I would think THIS would be the part that could cause some trouble  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:05 PM   #39 
     - On the other hand innocent people might be saved. That's the essence of  jody   Oct-02-05 09:10 PM   #42 
     - I honestly don't have a problem with self-defense  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:30 PM   #56 
        - If you choose not to defend your self, have fun but that's not what the FL  jody   Oct-02-05 10:09 PM   #80 
           - Have you read it?  renie408   Oct-02-05 10:13 PM   #85 
           - Still distorting the law.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:21 PM   #97 
           - I said "or the threat of criminals in other places". Can you read? n/t  jody   Oct-02-05 10:22 PM   #99 
              - Yes, and normally pretty well  renie408   Oct-02-05 10:30 PM   #109 
           - This law doesn't just cover someone in their home.  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:18 PM   #93 
              - I said "or the threat of criminals in other places". Can you read? n/t  jody   Oct-02-05 10:23 PM   #100 
              - It carries a LOT of legal weight.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:23 PM   #101 
     - People are going to get shot regardless of the law  RagingInMiami   Oct-03-05 12:18 AM   #157 
  - Florida is a much safer place now  Fescue4u   Oct-02-05 08:42 PM   #23 
  - I don't consider anyplace to be safe where it's necessary to  ladjf   Oct-03-05 12:11 AM   #154 
     - Who is saying that its necessary?  Fescue4u   Oct-03-05 01:08 AM   #159 
  - Oh, we even have a new propsed bill to make us less safe  Synnical   Oct-02-05 08:50 PM   #26 
  - You mean make criminals less safe?  ebal   Oct-02-05 08:59 PM   #34 
  - I see no problem with that law.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 09:03 PM   #37 
     - Keep your gun. You are in more danger from it than anyone else, anyway.  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:53 PM   #68 
     - Those are distorted statistics.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:02 PM   #73 
     - Why do you need a gun, then?  renie408   Oct-02-05 10:24 PM   #102 
     - I have been a crime victim before.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:42 PM   #119 
     - just because you are a 'good driver'....  marions ghost   Oct-03-05 09:52 AM   #176 
     - Do you think AIDS is "god's little joke" on gay men?  RagingInMiami   Oct-03-05 12:21 AM   #158 
        - Jeez...  renie408   Oct-03-05 06:27 AM   #166 
           - You missed the point, of course.  RagingInMiami   Oct-03-05 11:06 AM   #180 
     - Heres where you and i will disagree.  TX-RAT   Oct-03-05 09:31 AM   #173 
        - I had to think this one over some before responding.  Silverhair   Oct-04-05 09:08 AM   #207 
           - I am willing to bet that you don't agressively search  TX-RAT   Oct-04-05 09:19 AM   #208 
              - Most of those are company vehicles, right?  Silverhair   Oct-04-05 09:42 AM   #209 
                 - "Most of those are company vehicles, right?"  TX-RAT   Oct-04-05 11:29 AM   #212 
                    - I am still curious.  Silverhair   Oct-04-05 11:48 AM   #215 
                       - If i felt they were trespassing or poaching  TX-RAT   Oct-04-05 12:58 PM   #217 
                          - Yes, definitely I would want to know what was going on.  Silverhair   Oct-04-05 01:41 PM   #218 
                             - Once again, my place my rules.  TX-RAT   Oct-04-05 04:37 PM   #219 
  - That is an extreme over-reaction for propaganda purposes.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 08:52 PM   #27 
  - Whatever happened to the "bloodbath" from the AWB sunset?  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 08:57 PM   #31 
  - I have been keeping a close eye on this one to make sure it doesnt happen  Retired AF Dem   Oct-02-05 09:00 PM   #35 
     - LOL. Great site. NT  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 09:23 PM   #51 
  - So you can shoot anybody you want  KingFlorez   Oct-02-05 09:14 PM   #45 
  - Not so. You are being hysterical.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 09:26 PM   #53 
  - You really need to read the law before offering commentary.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 09:36 PM   #60 
     - Why do you keep saying that?  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:48 PM   #66 
        - No, you are distorting the law.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:06 PM   #76 
  - i sent an email to jeb  seabeyond   Oct-02-05 09:23 PM   #50 
  - This should insure that many will not go to Florida for  jwirr   Oct-02-05 09:26 PM   #52 
  - I'm with you on this. I don't own a gun and I don't won't to  ladjf   Oct-03-05 12:13 AM   #155 
     - That limits your vacations to Illinois, Wisconsin, Kansas and Iowa (?)  DonP   Oct-04-05 06:02 PM   #222 
  - Since Saturday it was in action  ebal   Oct-02-05 09:31 PM   #57 
  - Isn't it funny how we Florida DUers aren't so bothered by the law?  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 09:35 PM   #58 
     - Yes, I have to agree that there must be something wrong with Floridians...  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:43 PM   #62 
     - There's something wrong with the right to defend yourself in your home?  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 09:46 PM   #64 
        - ROFL!! I haven't read the law?? It clearly states that if you are away ...  renie408   Oct-02-05 09:51 PM   #67 
           - "Meet force with force"  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 09:56 PM   #71 
           - Self-defense is a good thing.  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:09 PM   #78 
           - That scenario is not covered by the law.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 10:11 PM   #82 
           - What if I think I was threatened? Doesn't the law say that if you  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:14 PM   #87 
              - NO, the law does NOT say that. NT  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:25 PM   #103 
           - That is NOT what the law says.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:11 PM   #83 
           - killing is a bad thing. and if you dont have to kill that is a good thing  seabeyond   Oct-02-05 11:09 PM   #137 
              - Depends on the level of the threat, and could you really outrun him?  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 11:22 PM   #142 
                 - this is obviously defending self, there are a lot more experiences  seabeyond   Oct-02-05 11:35 PM   #147 
                 - No, you can't.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 11:41 PM   #149 
                    - silverhair not going to argue with you. we will see how it develops  seabeyond   Oct-02-05 11:54 PM   #151 
                 - Thanks for telling me this.  raccoon   Oct-04-05 10:34 AM   #211 
           - Nope. You have misquoted the law.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:09 PM   #79 
              - Yea, "reasonable". What is reasonable to someone, might  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:13 PM   #84 
                 - Case law takes care of that pretty well.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:20 PM   #96 
                    - No? If Robert Durst got off on self-defense, anybody can,  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:22 PM   #98 
                       - I will be the LAST person to say our legal system is perfect.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:28 PM   #108 
     - I don't mind the Brady propaganda  Synnical   Oct-02-05 09:47 PM   #65 
     - You're entitled to your wrong opinion.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 09:55 PM   #70 
     - I won't have a gun in my house  Synnical   Oct-02-05 10:07 PM   #77 
        - What's wrong is that you want to subject everyone else to it.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 10:47 PM   #123 
     - If you don't want  Mojorabbit   Oct-02-05 10:14 PM   #86 
     - Are you really ready to use that gun?  Synnical   Oct-02-05 10:27 PM   #107 
        - A baseball bat to the head can be very deadly.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:31 PM   #111 
        - Um, I don't have baseball bat, either n/t  Synnical   Oct-02-05 10:46 PM   #122 
        - Um  Mojorabbit   Oct-02-05 10:34 PM   #114 
     - Well good for you...  _Loki_   Oct-02-05 10:17 PM   #90 
     - Just wait a bit.  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:16 PM   #89 
        - The law has nothing to do with shooting "suspicious" people.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 11:05 PM   #133 
        - You're right, but...  guruoo   Oct-04-05 05:43 PM   #220 
  - So under this law would Bernard Goetz be covered under Florida's  U4ikLefty   Oct-02-05 09:44 PM   #63 
  - Even in NY, Goetz's case was ruled self-defense.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:04 PM   #74 
     - Goetz was a vigilante who looked for trouble & found it!!!  U4ikLefty   Oct-02-05 10:17 PM   #91 
        - Wasn't he in subway?  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:19 PM   #94 
        - He was also armed, in public, pissed-off, & ready to shoot!!!  U4ikLefty   Oct-02-05 10:25 PM   #104 
        - He had been mugged before, and was afraid.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:26 PM   #106 
           - "The four muggers were looking for trouble, and they found it."  U4ikLefty   Oct-02-05 10:33 PM   #112 
           - I used you exact words. I just changed who was looking for trouble.  Silverhair   Oct-03-05 02:58 PM   #184 
           - we studied the case in class years ago, and i thought goetz  Blue_Tires   Oct-02-05 10:55 PM   #126 
              - The muggers were armed, and demanded money.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 11:04 PM   #132 
                 - and i'm sure  Blue_Tires   Oct-03-05 02:37 AM   #162 
                    - You are being silly.  Silverhair   Oct-03-05 06:06 AM   #164 
  - This flyer is FUD!  hootinholler   Oct-02-05 10:19 PM   #95 
  - Definitely not thinking about a Florida vacation.  Xap   Oct-02-05 10:31 PM   #110 
  - I've lived in south florida  BlackVelvet04   Oct-02-05 10:40 PM   #117 
  - Good news! Now you won't have to drag the body inside.  lizzy   Oct-02-05 10:41 PM   #118 
  - That cop informed him wrong.  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 10:57 PM   #127 
     - Informed her wrong  BlackVelvet04   Oct-02-05 11:02 PM   #131 
     - Fact is  Mojorabbit   Oct-02-05 11:05 PM   #134 
  - Born and raised in Miami  RagingInMiami   Oct-02-05 11:01 PM   #130 
  - WRONG. BAD ADVISE. GET YOU JAIL TIME. nt  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 11:06 PM   #135 
     - Makes me wonder  Mojorabbit   Oct-02-05 11:10 PM   #139 
     - Or your grave time  RagingInMiami   Oct-02-05 11:34 PM   #145 
        - If you have to shoot someone in GENUINE self defense,  Silverhair   Oct-02-05 11:38 PM   #148 
  - drag the body inside and then call the police.  TX-RAT   Oct-03-05 09:41 AM   #175 
  - They didn't need all those pesky tourists anyway  alarimer   Oct-02-05 10:44 PM   #120 
  - Yeah, too bad Brady has to lie to do it.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 10:52 PM   #125 
     - I am really tired of Gun Nazis  alarimer   Oct-03-05 07:46 AM   #167 
        - Florida will never go bankrupt over lost tourist dollars  RagingInMiami   Oct-03-05 03:31 PM   #189 
        - How ironic...the Nazis took everyone's guns away.  OrlandoGator   Oct-03-05 05:50 PM   #200 
  - As a gun owner living in Florida  RagingInMiami   Oct-02-05 10:59 PM   #128 
  - There is nothing at all in the law about shooting "suspicious" persons.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 11:00 PM   #129 
     - I think more liberals should  BlackVelvet04   Oct-02-05 11:06 PM   #136 
        - We're on the same page, I am also against the death penalty.  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 11:14 PM   #141 
  - Stand your ground law.  torreador   Oct-02-05 11:09 PM   #138 
  - I've lived in Virginia Beach  BlackVelvet04   Oct-02-05 11:13 PM   #140 
  - How interesting!  Bridget Burke   Oct-03-05 03:21 PM   #188 
  - The real issues at hand with the Brady flyers:  OrlandoGator   Oct-02-05 11:25 PM   #143 
  - guilty until proven innocent  ikhor   Oct-02-05 11:34 PM   #146 
  - I do think that's good advice to give to tourists  RagingInMiami   Oct-02-05 11:47 PM   #150 
  - Thats it for me. I wouldn't want to visit any state that would make  ladjf   Oct-03-05 12:09 AM   #153 
  - This screams for South Park reference!  butlerd   Oct-03-05 12:14 AM   #156 
  - This thread gives me chills  dutchdemocrat   Oct-03-05 02:11 AM   #161 
  - it gives me chills as well  leftchick   Oct-03-05 04:49 AM   #163 
  - Would it work against Eminent Domain?  Gin   Oct-03-05 06:26 AM   #165 
  - I hear ya  G_j   Oct-03-05 08:02 AM   #169 
  - Not all democrats march to the orders of the King Democrat  RagingInMiami   Oct-03-05 03:45 PM   #191 
  - As a gunowner, a homeowner, and a gun control advocate  MadHound   Oct-03-05 10:16 AM   #177 
  - "Reasonable" does not vary from individual to individual.  OrlandoGator   Oct-03-05 10:41 AM   #178 
  - Yes, but.............  butlerd   Oct-03-05 10:48 AM   #179 
  - Not true.  Silverhair   Oct-03-05 03:02 PM   #185 
  - Sure it does, and that is the whole problem with this law.  MadHound   Oct-03-05 11:41 AM   #181 
     - Maybe in about a year we can do a study to determine correlation.  OrlandoGator   Oct-03-05 11:46 AM   #182 
     - Better wager yet  MadHound   Oct-03-05 11:58 AM   #183 
        - How many innocents does violent crime kill?  Silverhair   Oct-03-05 03:06 PM   #186 
           - But Silverhair, this isn't a CCW situation  MadHound   Oct-03-05 03:46 PM   #192 
              - Yes, it is a CCW situation.  Silverhair   Oct-03-05 03:57 PM   #194 
                 - Not neccessarily friend,  MadHound   Oct-03-05 04:38 PM   #196 
                    - Open carry is NOT legal in Florida.  OrlandoGator   Oct-03-05 05:27 PM   #197 
                    - Personally, I think open carry is a great idea.  Silverhair   Oct-03-05 05:53 PM   #201 
     - Exactly. What is reasonable for one person, might not be  lizzy   Oct-03-05 03:13 PM   #187 
        - You are wrong.  Silverhair   Oct-03-05 03:44 PM   #190 
  - I truly doubt that any criminal would of known about this law  Retired AF Dem   Oct-03-05 07:25 PM   #204 
  - I have always believed the heat down there  VaYallaDawg   Oct-03-05 03:47 PM   #193 
  - a 200 comment discussion and no one has bothered to post the law?  davepc   Oct-03-05 04:01 PM   #195 
  - jody posted it in reply #22  slackmaster   Oct-03-05 05:35 PM   #199 
  - thats what I get for not reading them all  davepc   Oct-03-05 09:18 PM   #206 
  - OF COURSE Brady doesn't post the text of the law.  OrlandoGator   Oct-03-05 06:03 PM   #202 
  - Typical Brady scare tactic propaganda  slackmaster   Oct-03-05 05:31 PM   #198 
  - Yes, but the anti-constitution crowd  MildyRules   Oct-04-05 11:32 AM   #213 
  - leftchick  Moderator   Oct-04-05 11:54 AM   #216 
  - I am sorry  leftchick   Oct-04-05 08:28 PM   #230 
  - The Gun Industry is Loving This  stepnw1f   Oct-04-05 05:47 PM   #221 
  - Do you hate the NRA and all it stands for or do you hate the NRA but  jody   Oct-04-05 06:11 PM   #223 
     - Oh Stuff It  stepnw1f   Oct-04-05 06:20 PM   #224 
        - I take your reply as "I hate RKBA". Gore and Kerry lost votes in critical  jody   Oct-04-05 06:45 PM   #225 
  - well...if you happen to be a japanese student visiting this country  noiretblu   Oct-04-05 07:25 PM   #227 
  - someone pointed out an error in my post  noiretblu   Oct-04-05 08:30 PM   #231 
  - For some reason that reminds me of a "Do not feed the animals" sign  ck4829   Oct-04-05 08:03 PM   #229 
 

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