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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:22 AM
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90. Impossible to determine.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 11:23 AM by Silverhair
Have you read the entire book? Have you read about the social breakdown in 1918? Bodies were not examined to find out if it was the flu or a secondary infection. There were just too many of them. Bodies were lain on porches and not picked up for weeks in many cases.

BTW - Quarantine WORKED. Some places shut themselves off and turned away outsiders at gunpoint. It worked. They had no flu and no deaths.
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  -36,000 people will die in America from flu this year. Are you concerned? NNN0LHI  Oct-01-05 05:43 AM   #0 
  - The FEAR that this Bird flu creates is amazing, it's just like TERRA.  sarcasmo   Oct-01-05 05:47 AM   #1 
  - You got that right!  ElectroPrincess   Oct-01-05 05:53 AM   #4 
  - Just a natural result of the same sort of randomness assoc. w/evolution.  Mr_Spock   Oct-01-05 10:56 AM   #85 
  - I'm Concerned Every Year  REP   Oct-01-05 05:51 AM   #2 
  - I'm not considered "high risk"  Skittles   Oct-01-05 05:52 AM   #3 
  - Wanna Borrow My MedicAlert Bracelet?  REP   Oct-01-05 06:03 AM   #5 
     - see I skipped it last year  Skittles   Oct-01-05 06:42 AM   #12 
     - LOL!!!!!!!!!!  YouthInAsia   Oct-01-05 12:12 PM   #97 
  - I'm 50 and also considered "high risk" and I don't get overly concerned  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 06:12 AM   #6 
  - The Flu is Highly Contagious; West Nile is Still Rather Exotic  REP   Oct-01-05 06:22 AM   #9 
  - west nile is not contagious at all (my nitpick)  pitohui   Oct-01-05 08:43 PM   #112 
  - what happened last year to the "great flu "  madrchsod   Oct-01-05 06:28 AM   #11 
  - Did someone tell you that the "great flu" was going to strike......  Media_Lies_Daily   Oct-01-05 07:21 AM   #21 
  - There are new strains every year, though.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 07:44 AM   #40 
  - Don, please get your flu shot!  Divernan   Oct-01-05 07:31 AM   #29 
  - Note that the flu pandemic killed young people in their 20's & 30's  Mr_Spock   Oct-01-05 11:01 AM   #87 
  - I am also high risk and in my early 40s  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 06:48 AM   #14 
     - If You Read The Repsonses on this Thread, We're "Fear Mongerers"  REP   Oct-01-05 07:05 AM   #19 
        - Yeah, we also have vaccine available for high risk only  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:16 AM   #20 
        - I Was Lucky - No Problems Last Year  REP   Oct-01-05 07:22 AM   #22 
        - It was crazy last year  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:25 AM   #24 
        - Normal flu vaccines won't help against Avian Flu because....  Media_Lies_Daily   Oct-01-05 07:26 AM   #25 
           - I Think This Thread is About Regular Flu  REP   Oct-01-05 07:29 AM   #27 
           - I am aware of that.  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:30 AM   #28 
              - kitchenwitch you ain't gonna get avian flu  pitohui   Oct-01-05 08:46 PM   #113 
        - They told my husband that the stockpiles are still low.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 07:46 AM   #41 
        - I'm also high risk  notsodumbhillbilly   Oct-01-05 10:58 AM   #86 
        - Is a person with regular Type 2 diabetes considered "high risk"? n/t  Ladyhawk   Oct-01-05 12:56 PM   #102 
        - Yes Ladyhawk  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:28 PM   #108 
        - i'd say ask yr doctor  pitohui   Oct-01-05 08:49 PM   #114 
        - if you're high risk do get yr shot  pitohui   Oct-01-05 08:40 PM   #111 
  - Latest Freeper answer:  TomClash   Oct-01-05 06:14 AM   #7 
  - typical compassionate conservative  Skittles   Oct-01-05 06:43 AM   #13 
  - That person's obviously not seen much.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 07:49 AM   #43 
     - You know I used to think that  TomClash   Oct-01-05 09:35 AM   #74 
  - 3/4 of them are over 75  bananas   Oct-01-05 06:21 AM   #8 
  - The Rest Are The Very Young and the Chronically Ill  REP   Oct-01-05 06:23 AM   #10 
     - "90 percent of those deaths are among people 65 and older"  bananas   Oct-01-05 06:50 AM   #15 
     - Oh please!?!  ElectroPrincess   Oct-01-05 06:54 AM   #16 
        - Huh? Facts is Facts  REP   Oct-01-05 07:01 AM   #18 
        - I think we should follow each other's advice ...  ElectroPrincess   Oct-01-05 11:32 AM   #91 
        - Excuse me  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:23 AM   #23 
        - But again, that's the point - other than a flu vaccine, we have NO  ElectroPrincess   Oct-01-05 11:46 AM   #95 
        - Stop watching TV!  bananas   Oct-01-05 07:33 AM   #32 
        - So my husband's neurotic for worrying about his patients?  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 07:40 AM   #37 
  - not concerned for myself  nickinSTL   Oct-01-05 07:00 AM   #17 
  - My son's doctor said that yesterday  KayLaw   Oct-01-05 07:28 AM   #26 
  - All the docs we know are saying the same thing.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 07:50 AM   #44 
  - The ten leading causes of death...  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 07:32 AM   #30 
  - Thank you for that  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:33 AM   #33 
  - And a big cause of #1 and #2?  bananas   Oct-01-05 07:35 AM   #34 
  - Yep.  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 07:41 AM   #39 
     - I used a bad flu to quit smoking  bananas   Oct-01-05 07:53 AM   #46 
     - Interesting method...  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 08:02 AM   #49 
     - Then don't smoke /eom  ElectroPrincess   Oct-01-05 11:50 AM   #96 
  - Accidents in general are #5 at 106,000+ every year.  Zynx   Oct-01-05 07:54 AM   #47 
  - I mentioned automobile accidents...  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 08:04 AM   #50 
     - That's okay. It isn't obvious.  Zynx   Oct-01-05 08:15 AM   #57 
  - ack! Forgot the link!  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 08:08 AM   #52 
  - Kicked and Recommended  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:32 AM   #31 
  - We are in our house.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 07:36 AM   #35 
  - Kids spread the flu; If we abort all the kids, we could eliminate the flu  bananas   Oct-01-05 07:40 AM   #36 
     - channeling Bill Bennett this AM are you?  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:41 AM   #38 
     - That's one option, I guess.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 07:48 AM   #42 
        - Oh no, if there's a quarantine we may resort to that! n/t  bananas   Oct-01-05 10:46 AM   #80 
  - And tens of thousands will be killed by drunk drivers and many more  Zynx   Oct-01-05 07:51 AM   #45 
  - See post #30  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 07:55 AM   #48 
     - Actually, they do...  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 08:05 AM   #51 
        - oops!  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:09 AM   #54 
           - Well, if you combine things...  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 08:12 AM   #55 
              - Ahhh...Now we are into deep statistical analysis.  Zynx   Oct-01-05 08:15 AM   #56 
              - I would guess that it would still be #3  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:18 AM   #60 
                 - By all means, get your flu shot.  HawkerHurricane   Oct-01-05 08:24 AM   #62 
                    - I am sure there are protocols for how deaths are registered  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:27 AM   #63 
                    - Reminds me of an old joke from someone's sig line  bananas   Oct-01-05 08:51 AM   #69 
  - You don't get it because you don't understand virology  depakid   Oct-01-05 08:08 AM   #53 
  - Our media doesn't report the 36,000 deaths from human flu every year...  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 08:17 AM   #58 
     - Makes perfect sense. ;-)  Zynx   Oct-01-05 08:18 AM   #59 
     - Well golly, Don, you had better personally get a better understanding  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:21 AM   #61 
     - I guess I misunderstood your point  depakid   Oct-01-05 07:29 PM   #105 
        - Probably wasn't you fault about the misunderstanding  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 07:43 PM   #106 
  - I just had it. And it was BAD!  Darth Lib   Oct-01-05 08:27 AM   #64 
  - Influenza, or flu for short is a respiratory illness  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:29 AM   #65 
  - Avian Flu is very serious.  ClassicDem   Oct-01-05 08:41 AM   #66 
  - Yes avian flu is bad  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:47 AM   #68 
     - Again SARS had a 10% mortality rate.  ClassicDem   Oct-01-05 08:59 AM   #70 
        - yes, by all means let us ignore the fact the 36,000 die each year of flu  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 09:09 AM   #71 
           - I think the whole reason  G_j   Oct-01-05 09:35 AM   #73 
           - It depends on what you read.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 12:19 PM   #98 
              - Yep  KitchenWitch   Oct-01-05 08:26 PM   #107 
                 - Wow.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 11:37 PM   #115 
  - Very simple.  Silverhair   Oct-01-05 08:45 AM   #67 
  - Very good post!  crispini   Oct-01-05 09:10 AM   #72 
  - Heres an expert from John M Barry's book about the 1918 flu epidemic  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 10:17 AM   #75 
     - And from your own post:  Silverhair   Oct-01-05 10:21 AM   #76 
        - Yes because there were no antibiotics available then  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 10:26 AM   #77 
           - Antibiotics are ineffective against viruses. NT  Silverhair   Oct-01-05 10:40 AM   #78 
           - I have been talking about complications from the flu here to you  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 10:46 AM   #81 
              - And the part that I put in bold print was direct flu deaths.  Silverhair   Oct-01-05 10:50 AM   #82 
                 - What does lot mean when you say there were a LOT of direct flu deaths?  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 11:06 AM   #88 
                    - Impossible to determine.  Silverhair   Oct-01-05 11:22 AM   #90 
                       - I admit that I haven't read the whole book  NNN0LHI   Oct-01-05 11:39 AM   #92 
                          - Check out this site:  Silverhair   Oct-01-05 03:09 PM   #104 
           - Same could be said about Avian Flu  ClassicDem   Oct-01-05 10:53 AM   #84 
              - Now THAT IS scarry.  Silverhair   Oct-01-05 11:19 AM   #89 
  - From a public health or political standpoint?  triguy46   Oct-01-05 10:43 AM   #79 
  - Amen and amen!!!  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 12:22 PM   #99 
  - We all know that flu takes out old folks. Flu pandemic is indiscriminate  Mr_Spock   Oct-01-05 10:52 AM   #83 
  - 40,000 people will die from accidents on two lane highways  Must_B_Free   Oct-01-05 11:43 AM   #93 
  - No.  Feron   Oct-01-05 11:43 AM   #94 
  - If the pneumonia is caused by influenza, that makes sense.  knitter4democracy   Oct-01-05 12:25 PM   #100 
  - High risk people should get vaccination  Nikia   Oct-01-05 12:42 PM   #101 
  - Yes - Bush and his cronies are in charge  mvd   Oct-01-05 02:01 PM   #103 
  - Normal flu has a low mortality rate. Avian flu has a mortality rate so far  kestrel91316   Oct-01-05 08:28 PM   #109 
  - a little concerned but  pitohui   Oct-01-05 08:31 PM   #110 
 

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