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Mon Sep-26-05 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 41. Schrum was bad news! He also ran Gore's campaign. |
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Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 12:06 PM by second edition
Apparently, he is unable to present the human side of those he reps.Both Kery and Gore were percived as having very little personality and we just know that wasn't true.
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| -Kerry Staffers Brace for New Film |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 09:38 AM |
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Kerry didn't claim victory when he won in '04 |
tuvor |
Sep-26-05 09:41 AM |
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And this will matter...why, exactly? |
Arkana |
Sep-26-05 09:41 AM |
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So what? |
Mass |
Sep-26-05 09:45 AM |
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And your point |
fedupinBushcountry |
Sep-26-05 10:02 AM |
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It is dumb not to learn from your mistakes |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 10:12 AM |
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How do you know he didn't win in a landslide? |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 01:03 PM |
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I'm talking about the non-diabold states |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 01:42 PM |
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I'll venture a guess |
paineinthearse |
Sep-26-05 10:12 AM |
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But the whole point in '04 (in the primaries) was Kerry's electability |
WI_DEM |
Sep-26-05 12:45 PM |
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Silver bullet? |
Pig_Latin_Lover |
Sep-26-05 10:17 AM |
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Well that and his refusal to fight the theft of Ohio preclude him... |
truebrit71 |
Sep-26-05 10:25 AM |
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Isn't it ironic |
never_get_over_it |
Sep-26-05 07:41 PM |
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Does the lawsuit he's in with the GLibs count as fighting? |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-26-05 08:05 PM |
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Lloyd is a gossip journalist - May be we can use something better |
Mass |
Sep-26-05 10:22 AM |
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That link was from Rawstory |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 10:31 AM |
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So is one by Kerry's daughter |
TayTay |
Sep-26-05 10:34 AM |
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Sad thing is... he did win. |
tinrobot |
Sep-26-05 10:37 AM |
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here is a better write up |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 10:41 AM |
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Much better write-up. Thanks. |
Mass |
Sep-26-05 10:45 AM |
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Without the snark |
LittleClarkie |
Sep-26-05 02:27 PM |
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It is no secret that Kerry ran a shoddy campaign. |
TWiley |
Sep-26-05 10:47 AM |
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Silver bullet? He has no chances. |
PurityOfEssence |
Sep-26-05 10:50 AM |
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Truman is right |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 01:18 PM |
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You are right about Hillary. |
TWiley |
Sep-26-05 03:35 PM |
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So Hillary's crew is licking their chops to go after Kerry? |
txaslftist |
Sep-26-05 10:51 AM |
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Who funded that movie? |
Tower |
Sep-26-05 10:52 AM |
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how would a right wing attack machine get in such close proximity? |
cryingshame |
Sep-26-05 12:35 PM |
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Anybody can represent themselves as non-partisan |
Tower |
Sep-26-05 02:10 PM |
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As a Kerry supporter who gave both time and money |
John Q. Citizen |
Sep-26-05 10:54 AM |
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Why are they beating a dead horse? |
graywarrior |
Sep-26-05 10:54 AM |
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It is not a dead horse... it is a valuable lesson..the film is not anti-ker |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 11:06 AM |
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and again, I jumpt to conclusions |
graywarrior |
Sep-26-05 11:31 AM |
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Had a more media savvy team? |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 01:37 PM |
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?? |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 01:45 PM |
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Not the team - Bush paid (bribed) reporters |
karynnj |
Sep-26-05 03:10 PM |
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Would like to see a similar film done on the Chimp's campaign. It |
Fla Dem |
Sep-26-05 10:58 AM |
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I have a feeling this movie does cover all that stuff |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 11:08 AM |
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Me too! Especially after the first debate with Kerry. |
second edition |
Sep-26-05 11:29 AM |
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Kerry has a chance in 08? LOL If so, we're doomed. |
Beelzebud |
Sep-26-05 11:09 AM |
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I think Kerry is one of our best choices in 2008. n/t |
second edition |
Sep-26-05 11:27 AM |
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me too |
andyhappy |
Sep-26-05 11:34 AM |
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Kerry's campaign garnered him more votes then even Clinton |
second edition |
Sep-26-05 11:58 AM |
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Hew blew it because he lost to the worst president ever. |
Beelzebud |
Sep-26-05 12:02 PM |
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totally! |
andyhappy |
Sep-26-05 01:02 PM |
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Voting machines hon |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 01:44 PM |
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The worst prez ever being sold by 90% of broadcast media as the greatest |
blm |
Sep-26-05 01:52 PM |
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Baloney. There is NO evidence that he lost. |
saracat |
Sep-26-05 03:43 PM |
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He could have picked up a few more states for starters. |
Beelzebud |
Sep-26-05 04:07 PM |
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What makes you think he didn't? |
saracat |
Sep-26-05 04:18 PM |
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Those anti-Bush votes really added up. n/t |
Skwmom |
Sep-26-05 12:20 PM |
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self delete- dup! n/t |
second edition |
Sep-26-05 11:58 AM |
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Clinton's staff can lick their chops all they want |
Clark2008 |
Sep-26-05 11:33 AM |
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Don't discount Kerry, he has more appeal in the South then you |
second edition |
Sep-26-05 12:00 PM |
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Really now? |
Clark2008 |
Sep-26-05 12:03 PM |
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plus I don't think Iowa and New Hampshire will decide it this time |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 12:06 PM |
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An Edwards-Clark ticket would carry many Southern states |
ultraist |
Sep-26-05 12:51 PM |
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And who knows Clark? |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 01:46 PM |
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Clark has plenty of experience |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 01:56 PM |
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Not enough experience for me |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 02:02 PM |
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Please... |
ICantBelieve |
Sep-26-05 02:13 PM |
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Clark can balance the budget and will not send jobs over seas |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 02:21 PM |
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A bit more on economics |
ArkySue |
Sep-26-05 02:44 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-05 02:39 PM |
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That isn't called for |
tkmorris |
Sep-26-05 03:25 PM |
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Hello donjo, and welcome to DU |
TWiley |
Sep-26-05 03:39 PM |
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A little about Wes |
ICantBelieve |
Sep-26-05 02:12 PM |
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Clark has also gotten very good with the media |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 02:36 PM |
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He came in third in your state, Freedom. |
Clark2008 |
Sep-26-05 05:28 PM |
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Edwards |
donjo |
Sep-26-05 02:41 PM |
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Flip it. |
Clark2008 |
Sep-26-05 05:42 PM |
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But it's Gore's home state |
karynnj |
Sep-26-05 03:14 PM |
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And, apparently, that didn't matter, did it. |
Clark2008 |
Sep-26-05 05:41 PM |
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failing to run a fifty state campaign was both their problems |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 06:13 PM |
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I wonder if this film is actually about the larger picture? |
second edition |
Sep-26-05 11:36 AM |
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Apparently Kerry is fighting back on the election |
MellowOne |
Sep-26-05 11:38 AM |
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Kerry should be nervous about this.... |
slampoet |
Sep-26-05 11:46 AM |
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That is so true! |
ultraist |
Sep-26-05 12:57 PM |
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This is very interesting |
fujiyama |
Sep-26-05 08:11 PM |
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Until dems learn to keep some things to themselves, they will not win |
SoCalDem |
Sep-26-05 11:42 AM |
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wow. rawstory able to bash 3 leading dems in 1 swing |
seabeyond |
Sep-26-05 11:43 AM |
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how can we deal with the media? |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 11:53 AM |
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Schrum was bad news! He also ran Gore's campaign. |
second edition |
Sep-26-05 12:05 PM |
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he is the opposite of media savvy |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 12:11 PM |
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Donna Brazille ran Gore's campaign |
karynnj |
Sep-26-05 03:35 PM |
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Not only do you need a staff that is in touch with real voters |
ultraist |
Sep-26-05 01:00 PM |
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it is amazing to compare Kerry to Clinton (Bill) |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 01:10 PM |
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Clinton had a completely different media playing field when he won. |
blm |
Sep-26-05 01:49 PM |
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It's easy when you pay for the media |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 02:16 PM |
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I remember hearing the ex-wife say |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 02:28 PM |
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The media declared Kerry politically dead in December |
karynnj |
Sep-26-05 03:23 PM |
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the media made Kerry's momentum unstoppable |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 04:43 PM |
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Actually, the media had been under-reporting Kerry's support on the |
blm |
Sep-26-05 07:36 PM |
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you can say that about Iowa, but after that |
julialnyc |
Sep-27-05 12:58 PM |
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Except Kerry was always expected to win NH, anyway. The press still gave |
blm |
Sep-27-05 02:17 PM |
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2006! 2006! 2006! |
politicasista |
Sep-26-05 12:28 PM |
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I think this is a lesson for 2006 |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 12:35 PM |
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Definitley |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 01:54 PM |
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I'm sure some stuff is nothing new on the film |
FreedomAngel82 |
Sep-26-05 12:53 PM |
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if there is any lesson the dems can learn from the republicans |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 01:40 PM |
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he deserves it... |
garybeck |
Sep-26-05 01:49 PM |
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Yeah, millions are gonna line up to see the barnbuster |
Mr_Spock |
Sep-26-05 01:50 PM |
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Whatever. JK is soooo 2004. He & Hil can pound sand for all I care. |
elehhhhna |
Sep-26-05 02:41 PM |
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ha! John squared is waaay 2004! |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 02:44 PM |
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A better title: "How NOT To Win the Presidency" |
derby378 |
Sep-26-05 02:43 PM |
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Well, the DLC was full of crap wasn't it? |
TWiley |
Sep-26-05 03:41 PM |
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thus the bubble |
julialnyc |
Sep-26-05 04:49 PM |
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I know how he can deal with it. Just ignore it for 8 months! |
Beelzebud |
Sep-26-05 03:40 PM |
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A word of advice...Hillary don't bet the farm on |
formernaderite |
Sep-26-05 08:01 PM |
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clips from film |
julialnyc |
Sep-27-05 02:20 PM |
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