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Sat Sep-24-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
| 57. Mr. Pitt! I am not indignant nor attempting to defend or justify BB BS |
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As noted above, you posted in the heat of it, with all rights to your perspective.
I was surprised that the thread took such a violent turn, as it complained about mindless violence. I commented on the tone you took-- let me pick up with "I think their mothers are calling." If these troublemakers are actually on the side of peace and progress, does it help for peace and progress to demonize and write 'em off and suggest (as below) they need to "taste a police baton"? I repeat: "Is there any chance that some of these "spoiled" kids are an expression of the same energy of activism as in the past; that it could be unperverted and redirected for more effective, even peaceful, means? "I don't think adults who created the conditions have much credibility judging and mocking the youth that react to those conditions. Have they been offered other real alternatives to the mindless violence they are acting out?" :bleedingheartliberalclichesmilie:  |
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| -Annoyed - Will Pitt at Black Bloc - B.S. Violence | CountAllVotes | Sep-24-05 03:15 PM | #0 |
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they were probably paid by some Rove fund ... |
NVMojo | Sep-24-05 03:16 PM | #1 |
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so you share my |
CountAllVotes | Sep-24-05 03:18 PM | #2 |
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Ayuh |
GreenPartyVoter | Sep-24-05 03:19 PM | #3 |
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Paid by Rove |
goclark | Sep-24-05 06:04 PM | #34 |
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Yep, sounds that way to me, too |
MADem | Sep-24-05 03:20 PM | #4 |
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I posted this response in another thread |
thecorrection | Sep-24-05 03:20 PM | #5 |
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"when violence became a factor..." |
WilliamPitt | Sep-24-05 03:21 PM | #6 |
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Shaking your fist at Mickey D's is not gonna end a war |
MADem | Sep-24-05 03:22 PM | #7 |
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But what comes out of the dog's ass is a turd... |
MrBenchley | Sep-24-05 03:23 PM | #8 |
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I would like to have a serious discussion of this principle. |
lildreamer316 | Sep-24-05 03:24 PM | #9 |
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Worked for Gandhi. |
Fatima | Sep-24-05 03:39 PM | #15 |
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I can wrap my mind around that |
lildreamer316 | Sep-24-05 04:07 PM | #19 |
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Ghandi..... |
skooooo | Sep-24-05 06:02 PM | #33 |
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You might have missed the part in which he acccomplished his goals |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:15 PM | #42 |
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exactly |
skooooo | Sep-24-05 06:17 PM | #44 |
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No one said there's an EASY way. But there are better and worse ways. n/t |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:26 PM | #45 |
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Operative words: "Almost always" |
lapislzi | Sep-24-05 07:33 PM | #54 |
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Then you know a bit about the Lamb's War... |
TreasonousBastard | Sep-25-05 02:14 AM | #85 |
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well 60s/70s different time |
CountAllVotes | Sep-24-05 03:25 PM | #10 |
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Which is why of course BushInc is going to great lengths not to draft.n/t |
Garbo 2004 | Sep-24-05 03:29 PM | #12 |
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as time goes on and people get out of the service |
CountAllVotes | Sep-24-05 03:44 PM | #16 |
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People are already against the war now |
FreedomAngel82 | Sep-24-05 03:33 PM | #13 |
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That's all I was saying |
thecorrection | Sep-24-05 06:01 PM | #32 |
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one word: Ghandi |
rman | Sep-25-05 02:30 AM | #88 |
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Yup. nt |
blondeatlast | Sep-24-05 07:00 PM | #48 |
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Worth noting that the LaRouche'rs used to do this kind of crap |
MrBenchley | Sep-24-05 03:25 PM | #11 |
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If you google Black Bloc, |
Fatima | Sep-24-05 03:34 PM | #14 |
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hmm ... |
CountAllVotes | Sep-24-05 03:50 PM | #17 |
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We have a group of "anarchists" around here too |
AmyDeLune | Sep-24-05 04:40 PM | #20 |
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Sound like 21st century brown shirts....ultra white supremacists |
whistle | Sep-24-05 03:56 PM | #18 |
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Is this condescending sneering more effective than Black Bloc antics? |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 04:48 PM | #21 |
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There's no "sneering" here...only valid frustration |
DTinAZ | Sep-24-05 04:56 PM | #23 |
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I referred to the tone of Mr. Pitts post-- he was also in the heat of the |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 05:10 PM | #25 |
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not a generation....just the anarchist types |
DTinAZ | Sep-24-05 05:42 PM | #30 |
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Typing is divisive |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 05:55 PM | #31 |
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you type, I type, we all type! |
DTinAZ | Sep-24-05 07:29 PM | #53 |
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Don't confuse this with "youth energy". You insult youths. |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:06 PM | #35 |
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No I didn't. And sure it does. |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 07:23 PM | #50 |
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Untrue. MOST youths don't act out in this way. Blaming their shit on |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 07:49 PM | #60 |
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Is that participating? |
WilliamPitt | Sep-24-05 07:16 PM | #49 |
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Mr. Pitt! I am not indignant nor attempting to defend or justify BB BS |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 07:43 PM | #57 |
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in a word, no |
DTinAZ | Sep-24-05 07:59 PM | #64 |
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I respectfully disagree. |
Telly Savalas | Sep-24-05 07:44 PM | #58 |
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I think I'm a radical |
WilliamPitt | Sep-24-05 07:48 PM | #59 |
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I love you Telly, I really do. |
blondeatlast | Sep-25-05 11:47 AM | #93 |
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You must be happy BB got all the media attention |
rman | Sep-25-05 02:24 AM | #86 |
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You must be kidding |
omega minimo | Sep-25-05 11:36 AM | #92 |
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I think that you're generalizing |
architect359 | Sep-25-05 11:49 AM | #94 |
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I think you're fishing |
omega minimo | Sep-25-05 03:02 PM | #98 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed | Sep-24-05 04:50 PM | #22 |
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"they need to get gangraped" "should be beaten bloody" |
JackieO | Sep-24-05 08:03 PM | #66 |
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Wow. An amazing amount of violent attitudes expressed on this thread |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 05:05 PM | #24 |
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It's when you actually see them in a march you participated in that... |
zulchzulu | Sep-24-05 05:23 PM | #28 |
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Noted duly. |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 05:41 PM | #29 |
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You assume the youth are merely "reacting" to their conditions. |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:11 PM | #39 |
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You assume you know what I assume? |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 07:29 PM | #52 |
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No - I reference your own statements, fallacious as they may be. |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 07:50 PM | #61 |
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Thank you |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 08:16 PM | #68 |
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Yeah but that's no excuse |
LeftyMom | Sep-24-05 06:14 PM | #41 |
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What, don't you like being told you have no mind of your own but only |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:16 PM | #43 |
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Hmm. |
Telly Savalas | Sep-24-05 07:28 PM | #51 |
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They did the same crap at the WTO protests in Seattle - terrorizing poor |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:09 PM | #37 |
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Yes they did, and I am STILL pissed off about it! |
SeattleGirl | Sep-24-05 07:39 PM | #55 |
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I agree 100% |
FyurFly | Sep-24-05 06:10 PM | #38 |
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Shameless bump |
FyurFly | Sep-24-05 11:40 PM | #74 |
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There's one question that the "anarchists" can't answer |
eridani | Sep-25-05 02:52 AM | #91 |
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Please.... |
manic expression | Sep-25-05 03:16 PM | #100 |
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What utter bullshit. |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:07 PM | #36 |
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Be yourself. At least, if it pays well. |
ForrestGump | Sep-24-05 06:30 PM | #46 |
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Tattoos and piercings are not cheap - |
rman | Sep-25-05 02:27 AM | #87 |
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They are out for a good time |
Piperay | Sep-24-05 05:11 PM | #26 |
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They Protest Against Capitalism |
AnnieBW | Sep-24-05 05:12 PM | #27 |
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What they did at the WTO protests was horrible. They made downtown |
mondo joe | Sep-24-05 06:13 PM | #40 |
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Yes and |
Piperay | Sep-24-05 06:43 PM | #47 |
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They caused a disturbance near the Hostel that we are staying |
ragin_acadian | Sep-24-05 07:42 PM | #56 |
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anger is a gift |
Cocoa | Sep-24-05 07:51 PM | #62 |
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My apologies |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 07:56 PM | #63 |
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they're not in *our* movement...that's the whole point |
DTinAZ | Sep-24-05 08:06 PM | #67 |
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They are an expression of the movement |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 08:44 PM | #69 |
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Very weak argument for thugs n/t |
FyurFly | Sep-24-05 08:55 PM | #71 |
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Very weak reading comprehension skills |
omega minimo | Sep-24-05 09:18 PM | #72 |
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are you ever condescending! Must you be right at all costs? |
blondeatlast | Sep-25-05 11:55 AM | #95 |
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Discussion is not a competition. Not about being "right" for me |
omega minimo | Sep-25-05 02:56 PM | #97 |
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People harassing innocents are a part of our movement? |
mondo joe | Sep-25-05 12:13 AM | #76 |
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No thank you |
omega minimo | Sep-25-05 12:44 AM | #80 |
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Thank you for excusing young republicans. |
mondo joe | Sep-25-05 12:56 AM | #81 |
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Well, I have to admit |
omega minimo | Sep-25-05 01:32 AM | #84 |
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Such a martyr |
WilliamPitt | Sep-25-05 12:04 AM | #75 |
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Such a smarty |
omega minimo | Sep-25-05 12:30 AM | #78 |
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More justifying white priviliged males bullying everyone else. |
mondo joe | Sep-25-05 01:00 AM | #82 |
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"they traveled in a clot"............!!! |
Dover | Sep-24-05 08:02 PM | #65 |
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Almost certainly provocateurs |
Lydia Leftcoast | Sep-24-05 08:47 PM | #70 |
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I can only speak... |
Hell Hath No Fury | Sep-24-05 09:30 PM | #73 |
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The same people who protested the Florida recount. |
genieroze | Sep-25-05 12:27 AM | #77 |
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I've been wondering what those kids were up to |
impeachdubya | Sep-25-05 12:37 AM | #79 |
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I've seen these idiots in action in SF. |
mgdecombe | Sep-25-05 01:22 AM | #83 |
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Way to go, Will. Very well said. |
expatriot | Sep-25-05 02:32 AM | #89 |
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I was horrified last friday night to hear a small news blurb on the |
JoMama49 | Sep-25-05 12:25 PM | #96 |
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delete |
jonnyblitz | Sep-25-05 02:44 AM | #90 |
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Forget them! |
Toasted_Halo | Sep-25-05 03:06 PM | #99 |
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