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18. Some medical information here. Congress should not practice medicine.
Statement on So-Called "Partial Birth Abortion" Law
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

Washington, DC -- The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) continues to oppose so-called "partial birth abortion" laws, including the conference committee bill approved by the US House of Representatives yesterday and sent to the US Senate. "Partial birth abortion" is a non-medical term apparently referring to a particular abortion procedure known as intact dilatation and extraction (intact D&X, or D&X), a rare variant of a more common midterm abortion procedure known as dilatation and evacuation (D&E).

In 2000, the US Supreme Court struck down a Nebraska "partial birth abortion" law in the case of Stenberg v. Carhart, ruling that the law violated the US Constitution by (1) failing to provide any exception "for the preservation of the health of the mother," and (2) being so broadly written that it could prohibit other types of abortion procedures such as D&E, thereby "unduly burdening a women's ability to choose abortion itself." The bill now before the Senate, which its supporters claim can meet any constitutional test, blatantly disregards the two-pronged test the Supreme Court carefully established in Stenberg.

As noted in a 1997 ACOG Statement of Policy, reaffirmed in 2000, and in ACOG's amicus curiae brief filed in the Stenberg case, ACOG continues to object to legislators taking any action that would supersede the medical judgment of a trained physician, in consultation with a patient, as to what is the safest and most appropriate medical procedure for that particular patient.

ACOG's Statement of Policy explains why ACOG believes such legislation to be "inappropriate, ill advised, and dangerous." The policy statement notes that although a select panel convened by ACOG could identify no circumstances under which intact D&X would be the only option to protect the life or health of a woman, intact D&X "may be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman, and only the doctor, in consultation with the patient, based upon the woman's particular circumstances, can make this decision (emphasis added)."

The Statement of Policy further reads that such legislation has the potential to outlaw other abortion techniques that are critical to the lives and health of American women. This was the second basis upon which the Supreme Court struck down the Nebraska law in the Stenberg case. The Court will invariably strike down laws that are overly broad or imprecisely drawn. Bills that frequently use terms -- such as "partial birth abortion" -- that are not recognized by the very constituency (physicians) whose conduct the law would criminalize, and that purport to address a single procedure yet describe elements of other procedures used in obstetrics and gynecology would not meet the Court's test.

In this case, the bill before the Senate fails to respect the Stenberg test because bill supporters flagrantly refuse to include an exception for the health of a woman. Instead, legislators try to circumvent the Court's requirements by issuing their own opinion to the nation's physicians and patients that such a procedure is never needed to protect a woman's health -- notwithstanding opposing opinions from the medical community.

The medical misinformation currently circulating in political discussions of abortion procedures only reinforces ACOG's position: in the individual circumstances of each particular medical case, the patient and physician -- not legislators -- are the appropriate parties to determine the best method of treatment.

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  -I need to respond to a freep about late-term abortion question everything  Sep-22-05 01:24 PM   #0 
  - yeah  thefloyd   Sep-22-05 01:29 PM   #1 
  - Ask them to provide a source for the 80% number...  SidDithers   Sep-22-05 01:29 PM   #2 
  - They'll cite a Jack Chick comic.  BurtWorm   Sep-22-05 01:46 PM   #15 
  - Seems that this is the source - a controversial JAMA article  question everything   Sep-23-05 12:07 AM   #34 
  - I cannot believe any woman would abort a LIVE baby  Daphne08   Sep-22-05 01:30 PM   #3 
  - Depends on what you mean by "elective"  spinbaby   Sep-22-05 01:30 PM   #4 
  - My daughter had statistics for Wisconsin for the last three years  murielm99   Sep-22-05 01:31 PM   #5 
  - Tell the freep you'll gladly shove a fetus down their throats if they wish  Mr_Spock   Sep-22-05 01:31 PM   #6 
  - Ask them if they have any number  whatever4   Sep-22-05 01:36 PM   #7 
  - Late Term abortion is anything after 20-22 weeks.  KyndCulture   Sep-22-05 01:40 PM   #8 
  - NO IT DOES NOT.  Eileen   Sep-22-05 04:33 PM   #30 
     - Wow -  TNOE   Sep-22-05 04:57 PM   #31 
     - A wonderful page. Thank you.  question everything   Sep-22-05 11:18 PM   #32 
  - Make them prove THEIR points to you  skygazer   Sep-22-05 01:40 PM   #9 
  - That's true. There is upcoming election where one is a woman (R)  question everything   Sep-22-05 01:45 PM   #13 
  - Well that really depends on what is referred to as "elective"  KyndCulture   Sep-22-05 01:42 PM   #10 
  - I am so sorry to hear this  question everything   Sep-22-05 01:48 PM   #17 
     - Absolutely they'd rather let a woman die.  KyndCulture   Sep-22-05 01:53 PM   #22 
        - That's right. One of their comment was  question everything   Sep-22-05 02:10 PM   #25 
  - All the late-term abortions I've ever heard of in real life have occurred  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-22-05 01:45 PM   #11 
  - I worked in  delen   Sep-22-05 01:45 PM   #12 
  - in 14 years in the medical profession, I NEVER saw, or heard, of a single  Thtwudbeme   Sep-22-05 01:46 PM   #14 
  - I am friends with an labor/delivery nurse  gollygee   Sep-22-05 01:49 PM   #19 
     - That sounds about right to me;  Thtwudbeme   Sep-22-05 01:53 PM   #21 
     - PBA in fact, doesn't actually exist. Just because some doctor SAYS it can  radwriter0555   Sep-22-05 02:07 PM   #24 
        - And, it is not as if they will stand in line to adopt  question everything   Sep-22-05 02:15 PM   #27 
  - 80% ??  gollygee   Sep-22-05 01:46 PM   #16 
  - No, but the freepers do call that elective.  KyndCulture   Sep-22-05 02:03 PM   #23 
     - I carried to almost 5 months a complete tragedy  Veganistan   Sep-22-05 11:52 PM   #33 
        - I am so sorry about your loss. How terrible it must have been to go  question everything   Sep-23-05 12:15 AM   #35 
  - Some medical information here. Congress should not practice medicine.  snippy   Sep-22-05 01:49 PM   #18 
  - Thank you! I hope that every candidate running against any of  question everything   Sep-22-05 02:19 PM   #28 
  - Late-term abortion is extremely rare.  porphyrian   Sep-22-05 01:51 PM   #20 
  - Or  gollygee   Sep-22-05 02:11 PM   #26 
  - The Phantom Procedurw - called PBA by the AAPI - does not exist.  Eileen   Sep-22-05 04:08 PM   #29 

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