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Missing A KEY POINT in *'s speech: POWER GRAB FOR POTUS AND MILITARY
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Bush made it clear in his speech that the Administration is STILL going to try to use the Katrina disaster to grab more power. It would be another big step in their ongoing push toward suspension of the Constitution and Pentagon-directed military police and gutted civilian and states' rights. This has been a major goal of theirs for years - it can be documented step by step, for example the Patriot Act. (Of course this demand for ultimate Fed power centralization is also part of the strategy to blame the local and state authorities for the mass negligent homicide - it is saying in effect, "Just give us feds all the power and then you will all be safe!!!")

We cannot let this happen and must be very alert to prevent it.

In Bush's speech, along with the prospect of the vast reconstruction funds to be gobbled up by GOP crony deals; the plan to permanently disperse, displace and impoverish the people from New Orleans and the other devastated areas of the South; the prospect of federal money for religious schools to "educate" the displaced children; and many more neocon dreams, don't miss THIS:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9360206
(snip)

"...It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces, the institution of our government most capable of massive logistical operations on a moment’s notice.

"Four years after the frightening experience of September 11th, Americans have every right to expect a more effective response in a time of emergency. When the federal government fails to meet such an obligation, I, as President, am responsible for the problem, and for the solution. So I have ordered every Cabinet secretary to participate in a comprehensive review of the government response to the hurricane. This government will learn the lessons of Hurricane Katrina. We are going to review every action and make necessary changes, so that we are better prepared for any challenge of nature, or act of evil men, that could threaten our people."

(snip)


You know the kind of people he has for Cabinet secretaries, so you know whatever "recommendations" they come up with will be for the purpose of furthering neocon goals. His assertion that the federal government and the military need more power to act effectively during a crisis is a lie. EXISTING laws already give him that power, but he is trying to push the limits. For example, read the relevant sections of the DHS National Response Plan, an EXISTING document:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title: The Buck Stops Here: NATIONAL RESPONSE PLAN
The lines of authority are very clear; Bush does NOT need more power or more excuses to call for martial law and was TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FAILURES IN THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE KATRINA. Count on it, the detailed language in any change would include extension of the military policing to "civil disturbances" or just about any other damn thing.

And we're supposed to be encouraged that the disastrous federal non-response to the catastrophe will result in even TIGHTER exclusion of state and civilian efforts?!?! FEMA/DHS should have even GREATER power to block aid and disrupt search/rescue efforts and essential communication?!? Look at horrors FEMA/DHS are ALREADY responsible for in the Katrina disaster and their efforts to prevent anyone else from helping the victims that they have abandoned to die. The answer is supposed to be to INCREASE the power of these people?!?!

Oh yes. Using Katrina to grab more power for the POTUS is a theme. For example:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: Bush says he may need more power in disasters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: NPR Reports: GW to Blanco"I'll send in the troops if you answer to the WH"

Make no mistake, there are years of step-by-step plans and moves leading up to this crisis and the intended political manipulation of it. I've been researching this and it isn't tinfoilhattery at all. The WH/Pentagon knew the disaster would come in some form, natural or man-made, sooner or later. In fact, in early 2001 there was the official report that the three top, most likely catastrophes to hit the US would be an earthquake in San Francisco, a terrorist attack in New York, or a hurricane in New Orleans. Bush knew, and he cut funding to maintain levees and improve hurricane preparedness:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
thread title: FACTS: Bush was told about NO , he funded a study to confirm & then CUT $$
(New Orleans hurricane and New York terrorist attack! Hey, two out of three!!! Though I do believe the New York attacks on 9/11 happened because of planning by Pentagon/WH insiders.)

For more of the back story on the step by step move to dictatorship and martial law, see this post and the follow the links back.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Let's not let the neocons use this great disaster as the "one more hit" that General Tommy Franks was referring to in his Cigar Aficionado interview that would could result in the suspension of the Constitution for our "protection."
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Profiles/People...

I recommend this excellent article, a column written in response to Tommy Franks' surprisingly frank prediction.
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/12/07/Columns/From_Tommy_Fr...

From Tommy Franks, a doomsday scenario


By ROBYN E. BLUMNER, Times Perspective Columnist
Published December 7, 2003

The doomsday scenario was laid out by Gen. Tommy Franks, the recently retired head of CentCom, in of all places the December edition of Cigar Aficionado magazine.

"What is the worst thing that can happen in our country?" Franks asked rhetorically. "Two steps. The first step would be a nexus between weapons of mass destruction . . . and terrorism." The second step would be "the western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy."

Franks suggested that a "massive casualty-producing event" might cause "our population to question our own Constitution and begin to militarize our country."

(snip)

It was the Nine Years' War in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World that facilitated the seizure of power by the world reformers who then took control of nearly all human and social development. In 1984, George Orwell described Oceania as in a constant state of war with a changeable enemy who "always represented absolute evil." These inventors of the great dystopias understood the way governments use war and its associative fear and instability to consolidate power. Despotism thrives on insecurity. Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs puts safety right behind food, water and sleep. Humans naturally crave stability and are willing to sacrifice values such as liberty in its pursuit.

(snip)


Foolish tinfoilhattery, you say? John Dean, one of our country's most respected legal authorites, disagrees with you. In 2002 he considered the probable consequences of the "one more hit," which he thought of as another domestic terrorist attack - though the hurricane can work even better for this purpose, especially with what certainly looks like deliberate worsening of the aftermath. Mr. Dean thought it quite possible that a great disaster like another terrorist attack could be successfully manipulated by the Administration into a functional suspension of the Constitution that he called "constitutional dictatorship."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/06/columns/fl.dean.pow...

With the Bush Administration, always watch for the hand behind the back - the one holding the secret stiletto. They are STILL going to try to use this ongoing national tragedy to grab more civil and state power and consolidate under Pentagon-directed military police. If they give it a name at all, I promise you they won't call it what it is: martial law and military dictatorship. No, I'm betting on something Orwellian like "Operation Safe America." You can bet that it will NOT involve OUR National Guard back at home defending their states under their governors' authority.

We MUST MUST MUST stay alert and STOP the power grab that the Bush Administration will try to make based on their own murderously negligent and incompetent response to the hurricane.


Not only would this dismantle many more of the essential Constitutional protections from dictatorship and further increase Bush's unbalanced power, it would make us all LESS safe from natural and man-made disasters, not more. We MUST make both of these points clear to the American public. This is a turning point, one way or the other.



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  Missing A KEY POINT in *'s speech: POWER GRAB FOR POTUS AND MILITARY Nothing Without Hope  Sep-16-05 01:09 AM   #0 
   Yes, I caught that  eleny   Sep-16-05 01:12 AM   #1 
   Nominated - Thank you Nothing Without Hope for your steadfast work and  Trevelyan   Sep-16-05 09:32 PM   #77 
      Thank you, Trevelyan. I'm just glad this post didn't get locked or  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-17-05 06:20 AM   #92 
   I agree 100%  Autumn Colors   Sep-16-05 01:12 AM   #2 
   Very important point. Nominated.  Bernardo de La Paz   Sep-16-05 01:12 AM   #3 
   YVW, but I didn't have to transcribe. MSNBC has the "PREPARED TRANSCRIPT"  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 01:32 AM   #10 
   I agree too. He'll try to get more power here.  texpatriot2004   Sep-16-05 01:19 AM   #4 
   Kick - Blackwater Mercs and 82 Airborne not helping but armed & dangerous  Trevelyan   Sep-30-05 12:44 AM   #147 
   I have read where some top Republicans want to "review" the  alfredo   Sep-16-05 01:23 AM   #5 
   They've wanted to do that for years. They see this as their big chance.  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 01:37 AM   #12 
   bush will try his best to use this tragedy to further his agenda.  alfredo   Sep-16-05 12:05 PM   #54 
   We need to document such statements, get them word for word. They  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 05:03 AM   #32 
      Someone like Clinton would use them as the last resort, bush  alfredo   Sep-16-05 12:09 PM   #55 
   This is the sentence.  NYC   Sep-16-05 01:25 AM   #6 
   Yes noted and  burrowowl   Sep-16-05 01:29 AM   #7 
   The Use of Blackwater Mercenaries Must Be Protested to Congress and the  Trevelyan   Sep-30-05 12:33 AM   #146 
   Professional army vs. citizen army.  NYC   Sep-16-05 01:30 AM   #8 
   I also believe federalization, war-hardening and displacement of the GUARD  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 02:07 AM   #14 
   For teh record the rise of protest is at part  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-17-05 02:22 AM   #89 
   Paying Blackwater Mercs $250,000 a year is where the Social Security Trust  Trevelyan   Sep-30-05 12:56 AM   #148 
   ..civil war . is Halliburton in line?  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 05:57 AM   #157 
   I have to stop reading incredibly intelligent posts before bed time...  autorank   Sep-16-05 01:31 AM   #9 
   It really does escape them doesn't it?  ccbombs   Sep-16-05 02:37 AM   #20 
      "Excuse me, thats Dumas!" No kidding, they're Dumbasses.  autorank   Sep-16-05 04:28 AM   #30 
   Use of professional (enlisted/volunteer) army at home.  NYC   Sep-16-05 01:33 AM   #11 
   Yes. I also suspect that the planned "consolidation" of military bases  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 03:08 AM   #25 
   This is really important stuff. Please keep voting & kicking this up!  scarletwoman   Sep-16-05 02:00 AM   #13 
   Nominated, kicked and bookmarked  Lone_Star_Dem   Sep-16-05 02:15 AM   #15 
   Understand POSSE COMITATUS - it protects democracy and it is in danger:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 02:16 AM   #16 
   Posse Comitatus Act. (link)  NYC   Sep-16-05 02:29 AM   #19 
      Yes, that's part of the same Wash U law school page I just excerpted from  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 02:50 AM   #24 
   Here's a tidbit on a precedent for "preventive martial law" in the US:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 02:26 AM   #17 
   kick . . . n/t  annabanana   Sep-16-05 06:27 AM   #38 
   outstanding post  grasswire   Sep-16-05 02:28 AM   #18 
   Excellent Point, It Nails What's Really Happening  specimenfred1984   Sep-16-05 02:38 AM   #21 
   Re the South being a Repub stronghold - please consider this:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 03:13 AM   #26 
   Southerners will not put up with this bullshit  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 06:31 AM   #158 
   Nominated and kicked. Excellent post. nt  nonconformist   Sep-16-05 02:45 AM   #22 
   An ABSOLUTE MUST-READ: "The Bush Administration's 'Enabling Act' "  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 02:45 AM   #23 
   Even if Roberts had been asked  sunnystarr   Sep-16-05 02:54 PM   #58 
   Regarding Judge Roberts and Checks on Presidential Power  CTPatriot   Sep-17-05 09:18 AM   #95 
      Okay. It is gone.  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 06:41 AM   #159 
   ANOTHER MUST-READ: NorthCom devising plans for martial law in the US  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 03:47 AM   #27 
   Here it is .. they changed the title  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 07:01 AM   #160 
   The bastard could have called in the military  DELUSIONAL   Sep-16-05 04:00 AM   #28 
   He's on VACATION  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 07:08 AM   #161 
      I'm sure the little bastard has some really wild dreams.  Blue State Native   Oct-05-05 09:11 AM   #170 
   John Roberts should be asked about his views of Loo's Justice Dept memo  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 04:15 AM   #29 
   Check out the President's powers through FEMA. And he wants MORE!!!  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 04:57 AM   #31 
   AGAIN, don't miss FEMA executive order #11921:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 05:05 AM   #33 
   So. He has the Power  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 07:14 AM   #162 
   It's almost dawn & I have to stop for the "night." PLEASE KEEP THIS GOING  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 05:17 AM   #34 
   Good Morning! Can't sleep. These bastards will do it to you, won't they?  fooj   Sep-16-05 05:29 AM   #36 
      Hello Fooj, yes, you're right. I've been working very hard on this thread  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 05:38 AM   #37 
         You are absolutely right. There's plenty of documented evidence  fooj   Sep-16-05 06:33 AM   #39 
            I am so with you on that  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 07:26 AM   #163 
   Byrnes was dismissed as a warning to all senior officers.  LibertyorDeath   Sep-16-05 05:28 AM   #35 
   Wait a minute  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 07:43 AM   #164 
   Haley Barbour interviewed after speech. This is a must read  OmmmSweetOmmm   Sep-16-05 06:35 AM   #40 
   Those who wrote the speech  H2O Man   Sep-16-05 06:38 AM   #41 
   Good catch but it's up to the Dems  malaise   Sep-16-05 06:41 AM   #42 
   That's an important point.  H2O Man   Sep-16-05 07:58 AM   #43 
   I will have to read better later--but yes, it is power grab --make no  rodeodance   Sep-16-05 09:04 AM   #44 
   I've seen one tepid Reid quote--when does this party WAKE UP??  Gloria   Sep-16-05 04:45 PM   #63 
      Oh? You didn't know  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 08:12 AM   #165 
   Most excellent compilation  Horse with no Name   Sep-16-05 10:14 AM   #45 
   When I heard that, I turned it off...  triguy46   Sep-16-05 10:25 AM   #46 
   What is his "will"?  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 08:16 AM   #166 
   You've raised many valid concerns over the hurricane  Liberty Belle   Sep-16-05 10:53 AM   #47 
   I've never submitted articles or editorials before. I'd welcome speciific  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 06:03 PM   #68 
      Try a local newspaper, or one of the liberal blogs.  Liberty Belle   Sep-16-05 09:02 PM   #75 
   VERY IMPT--kicked and nom'd!  snot   Sep-16-05 11:03 AM   #48 
   This is the Republican version of "you break it you buy it"  txaslftist   Sep-16-05 11:08 AM   #49 
   Another Great Martial Law Article  Bushwick Bill   Sep-16-05 11:11 AM   #50 
   Um, such plans constitute a conspiracy to violate the Constitution,...  Just Me   Sep-16-05 11:33 AM   #51 
   I caught that, too. The minute he mentioned a broader role for the  calimary   Sep-16-05 11:44 AM   #52 
   I agree with everything you are saying. There's helpful info on  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 11:58 AM   #53 
   William M. Arkin: A broader role for the armed forces?  understandinglife   Sep-16-05 02:01 PM   #56 
   Just let it ride  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 08:33 AM   #167 
   kicked and nominated  jokerman93   Sep-16-05 02:13 PM   #57 
   Kicked and nominated n/t  Emit   Sep-16-05 03:01 PM   #59 
   I caught those sentences too and thought they don't bode well  jjanpundt   Sep-16-05 03:07 PM   #60 
   Valuable compilation! Could I suggest . . .  snot   Sep-16-05 03:42 PM   #61 
   HERE IS THE PLAIN TEXT VERSION OF THE OPENING POST (with html commands)  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 05:16 PM   #65 
   Yay, thanks! nt  snot   Sep-17-05 01:22 AM   #85 
   Next time I do this, maybe I should spend the extra effort to get TinyURLs  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 05:19 PM   #66 
      PLEASE don't use TinyURLs! It's so easy to make a text link!  scarletwoman   Sep-17-05 06:28 PM   #100 
         And here's what the text link looks like with the html enabled:  scarletwoman   Sep-17-05 06:35 PM   #101 
            Thanks for this. I have avoided using text links for three reasons:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-23-05 07:12 PM   #130 
   you're exactly right about this  bbgrunt   Sep-16-05 04:31 PM   #62 
   I believe you're right about this.  Time for change   Sep-16-05 04:55 PM   #64 
   another thread on this issue with the same conclusions:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 05:45 PM   #67 
   Great post. Thanks for compiling. Nominated.  Robeson   Sep-16-05 06:31 PM   #69 
   Kick up  lumpy   Sep-16-05 07:26 PM   #70 
   Interesting, but needs to be viewed against draft and current wars  spindoctor   Sep-16-05 07:40 PM   #71 
   Disagree, disagree, disagree  redacted   Sep-16-05 08:58 PM   #74 
   Who knows?  spindoctor   Sep-17-05 12:18 AM   #80 
   They don't need a draft. See "mercenary".  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 08:52 AM   #168 
   It worked after 9/11  killbotfactory   Sep-16-05 08:15 PM   #72 
   KICK  redacted   Sep-16-05 08:47 PM   #73 
   kicked and nominated  north houston dem   Sep-16-05 09:29 PM   #76 
   Does the military lockdown of New Orleans HAVE to be THIS total???  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 09:39 PM   #78 
   I believe the Bush Administration PNAC thugs have misunderstood the  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-16-05 11:05 PM   #79 
   I believe you are correct.  glitch   Sep-17-05 12:59 AM   #82 
   Oh yes, I needed to be reminded of that Gandhi quote. THANK YOU!!!  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-17-05 02:08 AM   #87 
      I have faith in Americans  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 09:08 AM   #169 
   They have underestimated the indomitable spirit of the American People  fooj   Sep-17-05 05:54 AM   #91 
      Oh yes, I love that quote and hadn't thought of it for much too long.  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-17-05 06:33 AM   #93 
   *** MARTIAL LAW/FEMA HAS ALREADY KILLED PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS: ***  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-17-05 12:56 AM   #81 
   EXTREME KICK  redacted   Sep-17-05 02:00 AM   #86 
   Perhaps its time for 7 new countries.  HR_Pufnstuf   Sep-17-05 01:07 AM   #83 
   Nope, it wouldn't. The new plan making PRE-EMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKES  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-17-05 02:17 AM   #88 
   --  HR_Pufnstuf   Sep-17-05 01:07 AM   #84 
   For anyone who STILL doesn't think the delays were deliberate, READ THIS:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-17-05 03:07 AM   #90 
   You should send this to one of the Dem leaders....  Catchawave   Sep-17-05 08:34 AM   #94 
   kicked.......  bettyellen   Sep-17-05 12:45 PM   # 
   Thanks, bettyellen, I guess it's keep-it-kicked time now. I do want to  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-17-05 04:03 PM   #97 
   kicked.......  bettyellen   Sep-17-05 12:45 PM   #96 
   Kick for TRUTH!  fooj   Sep-17-05 04:55 PM   #98 
   Lookee here: the moneygrab quietly started last week......  bettyellen   Sep-17-05 06:00 PM   #99 
   kick  KYDEM   Sep-18-05 12:36 AM   #104 
   kick - I expect to post some more in this thread over the next days and I  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-18-05 12:03 AM   #102 
   this is relevant - Iraq war protestors to be allowed NO DEFENSE in trial:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-18-05 12:10 AM   #103 
   wow  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 03:57 PM   #174 
   Will post an article on the militarization of New Orleans here tomorrow.  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-18-05 02:49 AM   #105 
   kick  KYDEM   Sep-18-05 08:38 AM   #106 
   Sunday morning kick. 9:35  livvy   Sep-18-05 09:40 AM   #107 
   KICK  bettyellen   Sep-18-05 09:59 AM   #108 
   OH. MY. GOD. MUST-READ article "The Militarization of New Orleans"  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-18-05 12:01 PM   #109 
   No more power for you, incompetent monkey-man.......n/t  AzDar   Sep-18-05 12:21 PM   #110 
   No reason to doubt this so far. I am concerned about the Washington  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-19-05 04:24 AM   #111 
   Great thread NWH more info here  LibertyorDeath   Sep-19-05 04:49 AM   #112 
   kick - keeping this alive n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-20-05 12:21 AM   #113 
   kick n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-20-05 05:15 AM   #114 
   Will post some more info here tonight n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-20-05 11:47 AM   #115 
   Read today's Washington Post blog by Arkin on Posse Comitatus!  backtotheuniverse   Sep-20-05 12:45 PM   #116 
   Excellent! I'll post an excerpt from it here later tonight  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-20-05 03:10 PM   #117 
   Glad to have bumped into this  buzzsaw_23   Sep-20-05 11:25 PM   #118 
   Increasingly, I believe that the Administration WANTS racial protest to  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-21-05 02:46 AM   #119 
   Wow why didn't I see this thread earlier?  TheGoldenRule   Sep-21-05 04:26 AM   #120 
   Your thought about the 24th had occurred to me too. I do have some  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-21-05 11:46 PM   #124 
   the song remains the same..MORE for him less for us  dbeach   Sep-21-05 10:07 AM   #121 
   Keeping it alive until I have time to post more  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-21-05 11:30 PM   #122 
   Look forward to the rest  buzzsaw_23   Sep-21-05 11:34 PM   #123 
      All too true, and to clear the miasma of that toxic worldview, here is  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-21-05 11:51 PM   #125 
   kick n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-22-05 06:14 AM   #126 
   OH MY GOD!!! READ THIS!!!! IT MAY BE STARTING IN PREPARATION FOR  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-22-05 05:54 PM   #127 
   Will post more in the next couple of days - feel free to do so too n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-23-05 06:07 AM   #128 
   big kick..  G_j   Sep-23-05 05:17 PM   #129 
   A kick from me too G_j  seemslikeadream   Sep-23-05 10:00 PM   #133 
   The Pentagon "refuses to testify" to Congress about Able Danger - proof  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-23-05 08:19 PM   #131 
   Sorry - I misstated. The Yoo memo is from earlier, 2001. I'll get a link  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-23-05 10:50 PM   #134 
   Blast this to the media and to progressive congresspeople  paineinthearse   Sep-23-05 09:55 PM   #132 
   A cautionary historical comment and quote:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-23-05 10:55 PM   #135 
   kick!!  G_j   Sep-24-05 02:38 AM   #136 
   It's 'Seven Days in May' without a happy ending...  Octafish   Sep-24-05 09:49 AM   #137 
   kick - keeping this alive til more can be posted.  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-24-05 11:21 PM   #138 
   ~kICk~  G_j   Sep-25-05 01:13 PM   #139 
   kick - will post an article on NorthCom history tonight n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-26-05 11:28 AM   #140 
   Bush is stepping up the push for military takeover - and STILL lying  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-27-05 01:31 AM   #141 
   WaTimes: Bush seeks to federalize emergencies (end Posse Comitatus Act)  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-27-05 09:51 PM   #142 
   Okay. You got me thinking .. and looking  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 04:26 PM   #175 
   Transcript & video, 9/26 McClellan press briefing: "automatic trigger"  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-27-05 10:02 PM   #143 
   Many thanks for putting this together, not sure if this  slipslidingaway   Sep-28-05 12:22 AM   #144 
   Thank you for this. It's right on target, unfortunately.  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-29-05 03:42 AM   #145 
   kick - no time to post more today n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 01:05 AM   #149 
   So sad - something similar appears to be happening in AUSTRALIA:  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-01-05 04:31 AM   #150 
   kick - keeping it alive, will post more later on n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-02-05 03:14 AM   #151 
   Marital law in New Orleans means you can't even get your own father's  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-03-05 02:13 AM   #152 
   kick - will post an article on NorthCom tomorrow - it's another piece n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-04-05 05:02 AM   #153 
   another kick  chknltl   Oct-04-05 05:27 AM   #154 
   The very outrageous history of NorthCom - another must-read article:  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-05-05 02:35 AM   #155 
   Now Bush is talking about using the military to quarantine large areas of  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-05-05 04:39 AM   #156 
   Keep on kicking  Marie26   Oct-05-05 02:48 PM   #172 
   LA Times - they're trying to use the threat of bird flu to get martial law  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-05-05 02:06 PM   #171 
   Kick  votesomemore   Oct-05-05 03:50 PM   #173 
   Another DUer gets it - Bush's staatements about using the military for  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-06-05 12:34 PM   #176 
 

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