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22. I wrote this about sociopaths
Freedom to abuse and manipulate
by Underground Panther in the Sky June 12, 2003

Some people are more emotionally equipped to handle freedom than others are. People emotionally equipped to handle freedom don't have a compulsion to lie, they don't get off on physically or verbally abusing people, they don't abuse people 's trust either. They don't intimidate, humiliate or belittle other people to force them to be silent. They don't act like greedy pigs at other's expense.

They police themselves from within. They have self control and confidence that comes with self awareness.

Some people don't desire to dominate relationships they are involved in. Some people are not afraid of losing, being wrong, looking 'weak' or having their own integrity doubted by others. Their personalities and personal flaws are less defended because the person accepts them and is aware of their own limits.
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  -Im sure of it now. Bush has Narcissistic Personality Disorder imperialismispasse  Sep-07-05 04:10 PM   #0 
  - Those types usually have severe addiction problems  graywarrior   Sep-07-05 04:13 PM   #1 
  - Is that right? I didnt know that.  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:13 PM   #2 
  - Just like Ted Bundy,  MN ChimpH8R   Sep-07-05 04:14 PM   #3 
  - The only difference between Bush and a serial killer  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:15 PM   #4 
     - and he has  shadowknows69   Sep-07-05 06:22 PM   #39 
  - I think he is a full blown sociopath myself  undergroundpanther   Sep-07-05 04:16 PM   #5 
  - Wow that list looks pretty accurate too  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:18 PM   #6 
  - "11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim"  bananas   Sep-07-05 04:55 PM   #25 
  - He definitely fits the above description of a sociopath.  bunny planet   Sep-07-05 05:25 PM   #29 
  - His Fraudulency  marions ghost   Sep-08-05 04:15 AM   #72 
  - Absolutely.  kikiek   Sep-07-05 07:26 PM   #50 
  - Gads, I think he's really out in left field-- all those fit him!!  ailsagirl   Sep-07-05 07:29 PM   #53 
  - I thought he was a sociopath when he was Govenor  anitar1   Sep-08-05 05:17 AM   #73 
  - THis is a book I'd highly reccomend  undergroundpanther   Sep-07-05 04:18 PM   #7 
  - Excellent book, and you can tell she is referring to him in it.  kikiek   Sep-07-05 07:28 PM   #52 
  - There's little question about it. (See the DU archives - links cited.)  TahitiNut   Sep-07-05 04:19 PM   #8 
  - Wow I didnt know this had been discussed before  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:21 PM   #10 
     - Well, it deserves attention.  TahitiNut   Sep-07-05 04:28 PM   #13 
     - No apologies!:-)  Lisa0825   Sep-07-05 05:27 PM   #32 
  - and so do others in his entourage  marions ghost   Sep-07-05 04:21 PM   #9 
  - They do seem so out of touch dont they?  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:24 PM   #11 
     - I remember during the debates when Kerry corrected chimp--  ailsagirl   Sep-07-05 07:32 PM   #57 
  - Well, like Pelosi said today, he's "dangerous"  graywarrior   Sep-07-05 04:28 PM   #12 
  - Thanks :)  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:31 PM   #14 
  - Yep. It's a classic case isn't it? Maybe after we impeach and indict  Impeach_Shrub   Sep-07-05 04:31 PM   #15 
  - Hopefully they will remove his brain first  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:31 PM   #16 
  - Sounds as if they already are studying him!! Fascinating case.  ailsagirl   Sep-07-05 07:35 PM   #59 
  - I am ALL ABOUT this thread.  Writer   Sep-07-05 04:33 PM   #17 
  - Isnt there some way to subpeona his medical records?  imperialismispasse   Sep-07-05 04:35 PM   #18 
  - The main problem with diagnosing this problem is that the  Writer   Sep-07-05 04:41 PM   #20 
  - You've got it nailed, Writer. It's untreatable. The 'patient' doesn't ..  TahitiNut   Sep-07-05 04:57 PM   #26 
  - You nailed it exactly  MN ChimpH8R   Sep-07-05 10:02 PM   #62 
  - I bet too  BlueJac   Sep-07-05 05:21 PM   #28 
  - I wish we could get all these people  undergroundpanther   Sep-07-05 04:43 PM   #21 
  - and the awful thing is, his job situation is encouraging all these traits  Lisa   Sep-07-05 04:37 PM   #19 
  - I wrote this about sociopaths  undergroundpanther   Sep-07-05 04:47 PM   #22 
  - Wonder where he got that from?  Blue State Native   Sep-07-05 04:50 PM   #23 
  - Narcissistic Fibrosis, disease also shared by the ? % that voted *.*  orpupilofnature57   Sep-07-05 04:51 PM   #24 
  - Even if he didn't start out that way completely - by being surrounded  applegrove   Sep-07-05 05:18 PM   #27 
  - good point -- we already know Bush is very impressionable  Lisa   Sep-07-05 05:51 PM   #35 
     - It doesn't matter how easily he is swayed, he has no intellectual  applegrove   Sep-07-05 06:17 PM   #36 
  - Wow - that diagnosis is right on the nose. I was thinking today,  Vinca   Sep-07-05 05:25 PM   #30 
  - And the lack of remorse.  nicknameless   Sep-07-05 05:26 PM   #31 
  - With no professional expertise whatsoever, I believe  Lindsay   Sep-07-05 05:27 PM   #33 
  - Plus, the AA and fundamentalist Christianity  stanwyck   Sep-07-05 05:35 PM   #34 
  - I've never heard that he's ever been in AA  LeftyMom   Sep-07-05 10:38 PM   #64 
     - Of the 12 steps, he MIGHT be able to take 4 -- not in any order  TahitiNut   Sep-07-05 11:03 PM   #66 
  - Read "Bush On The Couch. " He's textbook: Professional diagnosis  jazzjunkysue   Sep-07-05 06:20 PM   #37 
  - I second that recommendation  alarcojon   Sep-07-05 07:21 PM   #48 
  - Tell me this isn't W in a nutshell: Addict's defense mechanisms  jazzjunkysue   Sep-08-05 08:36 PM   #76 
  - Loved that book too. Very interesting.  kikiek   Sep-07-05 07:30 PM   #54 
  - I had a boss with NPD.  mwb970   Sep-07-05 06:22 PM   #38 
  - I am reading a book now called "Why is it always all about you?". The  kikiek   Sep-07-05 07:31 PM   #56 
  - your post made me laugh with chagrin, mwb970......  schrodingers_cat   Sep-07-05 08:07 PM   #61 
  - So true  FreedomAngel82   Sep-07-05 06:38 PM   #40 
  - Self-Image  bloom   Sep-07-05 07:01 PM   #41 
  - View of Others  bloom   Sep-07-05 07:02 PM   #42 
     - Relationships  bloom   Sep-07-05 07:03 PM   #43 
        - Issues With Authority & NPD Behavior  bloom   Sep-07-05 07:03 PM   #44 
           - Affective Issues  bloom   Sep-07-05 07:04 PM   #45 
              - Defensive Structure  bloom   Sep-07-05 07:06 PM   #46 
                 - You could read all that and figure someone wrote it just for Bush* eom  bloom   Sep-07-05 07:15 PM   #47 
  - number 7  Donailin   Sep-07-05 07:23 PM   #49 
  - I think he's got other problems as well-- but definitely a narcissist  ailsagirl   Sep-07-05 07:27 PM   #51 
  - NPD has A LOT to do with one's mother  Cats Against Frist   Sep-07-05 07:30 PM   #55 
  - Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!  dancingme   Sep-07-05 07:34 PM   #58 
  - very telling moment.  stanwyck   Sep-08-05 09:58 AM   #74 
  - The man definitely has mental problems...  ailsagirl   Sep-07-05 07:47 PM   #60 
  - differential diagnosis: "primary psychopath"  foo_bar   Sep-07-05 10:23 PM   #63 
  - Is there a difference between "primary psychopath"  PassingFair   Sep-07-05 10:56 PM   #65 
  - sociopaths are the ones who get caught  foo_bar   Sep-07-05 11:48 PM   #68 
     - Thank you, Foo-bar!  PassingFair   Sep-08-05 08:04 PM   #75 
  - Maybe we should add Condi, Rummy, Cheney and most of Bush's  KoKo01   Sep-07-05 11:12 PM   #67 
  - I knew that back in 2000  TheModernTerrorist   Sep-08-05 02:41 AM   #69 
     - While technically 'treatable' it has virtually no positive prognosis.  TahitiNut   Sep-08-05 02:47 AM   #70 
        - I meant "hospitalize"  TheModernTerrorist   Sep-08-05 03:23 AM   #71 

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